Is forgetting a Christian doctrine considered heresy?

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Also pretty self-explanatory. For example, if one were to argue about the Bible, and a Christian accidentally says that the Bible was written by man (although he does accept that it is the Word of God), but then AFTER saying that remembers that it is the Word of God (and believes in it), is it considered heresy?
 
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No, however to replace what has been learned of the Holy Spirit with any doctrine of mankind would be apostasy.
 
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In other words, if I'm not perfect enough, I'm doomed to Hell?
 
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TheCookieMonster said:
Also pretty self-explanatory. For example, if one were to argue about the Bible, and a Christian accidentally says that the Bible was written by man (although he does accept that it is the Word of God), but then AFTER saying that remembers that it is the Word of God (and believes in it), is it considered heresy?
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While he said it, it is heresy. But hopefully he clarifies the truth to his audience. If his audience that heard him is unreachable, then I would confess it to God and pray it would not stick in the hearts of the hearers.
 
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hornetguy said:
In other words, if I'm not perfect enough, I'm doomed to Hell?
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YES!

(unless you're water-baptised)

;) KIDDING! ;)
That was just a joke, har har, lol.
Haven't seen you in a little while, hornetguy.....
just my way of saying hello..... ;)
 
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B1Davanda said:
YES!

(unless you're water-baptised)

;) KIDDING! ;)
That was just a joke, har har, lol.
Haven't seen you in a little while, hornetguy.....
just my way of saying hello..... ;)
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Well... I've been around.... hither and yon...

Did you forget to take me off "ignore", and thought I was gone for good? :D

What's your take on the "accidental" heresy?
 
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Quoting Al Pacino, "Are you talking to me?" If not, just ignore this post..........God bless you.

hornetguy said:
In other words, if I'm not perfect enough, I'm doomed to Hell?
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hornetguy said:
Well... I've been around.... hither and yon...

Did you forget to take me off "ignore", and thought I was gone for good? :D

What's your take on the "accidental" heresy?
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OH, no wonder, I went hither and tither.

I've never put anyone on ignore.
(But for you, if you want, I'll make an exception. ;) )

Accidental heresy?!
Whew.....close call.
 
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JaumeJ said:
Quoting Al Pacino, "Are you talking to me?" If not, just ignore this post..........God bless you.
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no... not at you... I was re-phrasing the OP's question.

If I accidentally say something wrong, am I a heretic? Or, if I'm not perfect enough, am I going to Hell?
 
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Accidental heresy?!
Whew.....close call.
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Yep... that was the point I was trying to make.... I don't believe one can "accidentally" be a heretic.
 
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While he said it, it is heresy. But hopefully he clarifies the truth to his audience. If his audience that heard him is unreachable, then I would confess it to God and pray it would not stick in the hearts of the hearers.
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So if he clarifies the truth to his audience, does it technically mean that he had sin? And if he were to argue in private and the other person that he was arguing was a Christian also (whom will probably correct his words), would he be accountable for heresy?
 
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TheCookieMonster said:
So if he clarifies the truth to his audience, does it technically mean that he had sin? And if he were to argue in private and the other person that he was arguing was a Christian also (whom will probably correct his words), would he be accountable for heresy?
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It was a lie, thus a sin bearing false witness of God's Word. If he clarifies/corrects his lie then it is no longer sin.
He'd only be accountable if he held to the original lie.
 
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and a Christian accidentally says that the Bible was written by man
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A mis-statement is not a lie. At least to me.... :rolleyes: A LIE implies intent to tell a falsehood. Accidentally telling a falsehood is a mis-statement. It should be corrected, of course, but to treat it like a deliberate lie? Come on....
 
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A mis-statement is not a lie. At least to me.... :rolleyes: A LIE implies intent to tell a falsehood. Accidentally telling a falsehood is a mis-statement. It should be corrected, of course, but to treat it like a deliberate lie? Come on....
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So, from my knowledge, you are implying that the man did not commit heresy nor was he a heretic, correct?
 
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TheCookieMonster said:
So, from my knowledge, you are implying that the man did not commit heresy nor was he a heretic, correct?
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Correct. In my opinion, it was not a lie, it was a mis-statement, not intentional.
 
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Give it all to God and let Him clean you up...."forgetting Christian doctrine" "heresy"?......

Truthfully God looks at your heart.

Some folks haven't learnt sound doctrine so it's hard for them to forget it....

I think it's more important to encourage study and prayer and maturity in believers than go on a witch hunt for heretics.
 
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I don't see a problem with the before or after. The bible was written by man and it is the word of GOD.
 
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TheCookieMonster said:
So, from my knowledge, you are implying that the man did not commit heresy nor was he a heretic, correct?
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We all make mistakes. No one's perfect and gets everything right all of the time. WE probably all have believed heretical things at some point. Heretics are those who get the fundamentals wrong and don't repent from their straying. GOD's children are those who grow and shed those things that are not of Christ.
 
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I don't see a problem with the before or after. The bible was written by man and it is the word of GOD.
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
We all make mistakes. No one's perfect and gets everything right all of the time. WE probably all have believed heretical things at some point. Heretics are those who get the fundamentals wrong and don't repent from their straying. GOD's children are those who grow and shed those things that are not of Christ.
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Okay, but for example, the man then says in the same statement that the Bible might be wrong sometimes. Of course, if he were to remember that the Christian doctrine says that it is the Word of God, then he won't say such a thing. But immediately, he remembers that the Bible is the Word of God Himself. (Or, he may be reminded by the other Christian). And, he also had accepted the doctrine at first - he just had forgotten it during their argument, and so corrects his statement and apologizes. Does that mean he just committed heresy and he had become a heretic?
 
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Ariel82 said:
Give it all to God and let Him clean you up...."forgetting Christian doctrine" "heresy"?......

Truthfully God looks at your heart.

Some folks haven't learnt sound doctrine so it's hard for them to forget it....

I think it's more important to encourage study and prayer and maturity in believers than go on a witch hunt for heretics.
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So, by that you mean that as long as je did accept the doctrine at the first place and that he had genuinely forgotten about it, that doesn't make the man a heretic?
 
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