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    Quote Originally Posted by garee View Post
    Angels that have no form are spirits used to bring the gospel, as messengers . They have no dna. They are not formed from the dust after the rudiments of this world.

    They cannot multiply. Giants have dna and can obey the commandment to multiply. There is no qualifying limit as to how tall or how short a person isi n order to receive the gospel .

    That portion of scripture is simply warning the Jews not to be unevenly yoked by mixing the seed in Christ that was passed from Abel and next Seth rght on down the line untill christ came No mixing the spiritul seed Chrsit with other nations. Nothing more and nothing less. They were to not mix the seed of Chrsit (not Seth after the flesh )
    with other nations

    There were men taller than usual and shorter even after the flood.
    Scripture please...throughout the Bible, angels have taken on human form. See the angels that rescued Lot. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to have sexual relations with them.

    Abel was not a son of God. The only way man can be a son of God is through the new birth into the righteousness of Christ. That was not even available for Seth and his descendants.
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    Chapter 5 reveals the seed line that was kept from corruption from the relations of the sons of God (fallen angels) and the daughters of men that produced a race of giants all over the earth. God was not going to allow this corruption to continue. The only reason Noah and his family was spared is because Noah's was perfect in his generations.
    there was an uncorrupted person in every generation, follow the patriarchs Enoch, Methuselah etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybird88 View Post
    there was an uncorrupted person in every generation, follow the patriarchs Enoch, Methuselah etc.
    Hopefully, more than one...It took all the way to Noah before there was only eight people left corrupted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denadii View Post
    Hopefully, more than one...It took all the way to Noah before there was only eight people left corrupted.
    the patriarchs may have all been isolated just as Noah was. im pretty sure the world before the flood was a very different world, nothing like what we see today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybird88 View Post
    the patriarchs may have all been isolated just as Noah was. im pretty sure the world before the flood was a very different world, nothing like what we see today.
    I wont argue with that, but I will say that our world today is fact approaching the same condition. Transhumanism, genetic manipulation, wearable robotics, internal robotics, neurotech. All designed to create a new species of human. You are obsolete my friend. The human race as we are is obsolete. Take it from there. Even today you can buy a kit to change your own DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by valiant View Post
    The context is quite clear, The daughters of men ('adam) have been outlined in ch 5. Thus they are mainly the daughters of Seth. (Cain is only described as having one daughter in passing).

    This is confirmed by the fact that the people of ch 5 alone were called 'adam. Cain was spoken of as 'ish.

    Thus 'the daughters of 'adam' in 6.1 have in mind the daughters of Seth.

    The bene Elohim of ch 6.1 parallel the bene Elohim of Job 1 & 2 and the bene Elohim of 'the morning stars sang together and all the bene Elohim shouted for joy' later in Job. The children of men are never called bene Elohim.

    So it is clear that both context and usage favour the daughters of 'adam being the daughters of Seth, and the bene Elohim as being angels.
    very clear to you maybe congratulations.. as i said my view already do i need say more..

    for others interested, when you work out the genealogies and ages lived, shem would have been alive whilst abraham was alive.if dates and ages are correct some believe that could have been mechizadek others disagree. .. to everyone else enjoy your arguing..

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    you might want to look up the descendants of anak that appear in numbers well after the flood, those that like to study, you keep arguing those others that have it ever so clear....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John146 View Post
    Scripture please...throughout the Bible, angels have taken on human form. See the angels that rescued Lot. The men of Sodom and Gomorrah wanted to have sexual relations with them.

    Abel was not a son of God. The only way man can be a son of God is through the new birth into the righteousness of Christ. That was not even available for Seth and his descendants.
    You said it right, but you interpret it wrong, yes angels have taken on the FORM of humans, but they never became human as in taking on flesh, because that's what needs to be do for them to have sex with women.

    The phrase son(s) of God (not Son of God) are not only used for those of the new birth, Luke 3:38 "Adam, the son of God" Job 1:7, 2:1 "the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord" Does that make the sons of God in Genesis 6:2, 4 are angels, NO. Read the context from Genesis 4:11-5:32 it give the contextual history of why 6:1 start with, "Now it came to pass". If you read the context of the history you will see that the sons of God are the sons of Adam, not angels. Now if you do not stay in the context and pull information form outside the context you can make them be any body you want them to be and use that outside information to prove that you are right, but the story does not start in 6:1 the context of this story starts in Genesis 4:9 ends in Genesis 6:8, then a new story line start out of the context of the previous story.

    It's really not that hard, the Lord did interject the sons of God to introduce fallen angels to a story line, that has nothing to do with fallen angels. I know what about I Peter and Jude, they speak of these angels, no they don't, they are speaking of the angels the left their first abode and position of authority. What happened to those angel when they left those places, they were cased into tartarus, received in eternal chains of darkness until judgement. Their crimes are listed, they left their first abode and position of authority, no mention of Genesis 6.

    You can not read the context of the story and come to the conclusion of fallen angels, unless you are so prideful that you would rather believe you interpretation of the story, rather than the context or the contextual story line the Holy Spirit has had written down. I don't know if you've seen mt challenge or not. But I've asked more than once for anyone to do a contextual exegete of Genesis 4:11-6:1 to show hoe fallen angels are in 6:2, 4 and no one has done it, they have taken my line of reasoning and interjected their opinion on it, but never has anyone dealt with the Scriptures in question and no one will, because they will have to admit that their conclusion of fallen angel is not in that context. Are angels called the sons of God outside o this context, yes they are, does that mean that every where that the term, sons of God always means angels? No! it does not, you always determine what is being talked about by the context of the story line. Not by outside information that you can interject into the story.

    I don't understand why this simple context throws so many off, the number one rule of interpretation, context, context, context, if you use that rule you can not come out with fallen angels. Every pastor except for one that I sat under, believe in the fallen angel theory, when asked to show that through the context, they never got back to me, just like here. Here though there are many immature remarks, which I've fallen to and reacted back which is wrong and I do apologize for that. The fact remains that one has and no one will do a contextual exegete of the Scriptures in question and show us contextually how they came out with fallen angels, it just can't be done in truth, in context.
    John 6:63, 65 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life....65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”

    I Corinthians 4:7 "For who sees anything different in you? What do you have that you did not receive? If then you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?"

    Born in the Spirit & word, granted by the Father. EE-TEOW




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    https://answersingenesis.org/bible-c...-the-nephilim/

    i came across this, which shows the main 4 differing views of the nephilim, enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_B View Post

    I know what about I Peter and Jude, they speak of these angels, no they don't, they are speaking of the angels the left their first abode and position of authority. What happened to those angel when they left those places, they were cased into tartarus, received in eternal chains of darkness until judgement. Their crimes are listed, they left their first abode and position of authority, no mention of Genesis 6.


    why would these angels leave their estate and position?

    this sin of leaving your 1st estate, where is it found in the bible?

    if they left their estate . . . .the end, and nothing else happened, whats the big deal? no harm no foul right? why the eternal chains, darkness and deepest level of hell. you know tartarus is not just hell, its the lowest level of hell, specially set aside for the absolutely worst of the worst. and who is the worst of the worst . . . .those that left their home???

    i would be interested on your thoughts on this but you never seem to address these problems. ignoring these things will not make them go away, just saying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybird88 View Post
    why would these angels leave their estate and position?

    this sin of leaving your 1st estate, where is it found in the bible?

    if they left their estate . . . .the end, and nothing else happened, whats the big deal? no harm no foul right? why the eternal chains, darkness and deepest level of hell. you know tartarus is not just hell, its the lowest level of hell, specially set aside for the absolutely worst of the worst. and who is the worst of the worst . . . .those that left their home???

    i would be interested on your thoughts on this but you never seem to address these problems. ignoring these things will not make them go away, just saying.

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    Jude 1:6
    And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

    You should read all of Jude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denadii View Post
    Jude 1:6
    And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

    You should read all of Jude
    we know they left, im not disputing that, my question to JB was why did they leave. and yes i think the answer is right there in Jude but JB will refuse to admit its there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybird88 View Post
    we know they left, im not disputing that, my question to JB was why did they leave. and yes i think the answer is right there in Jude but JB will refuse to admit its there.
    I'll sit back and watch what happens

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    Are you suggesting that when they appeared in human form they had no DNA? I see no Scripture which suggests it.
    Did you mean appeared to appear in human form? I see no Scripture which suggests other wise as if we did wrestle against flesh and blood to begin with.

    They are sent as ministering sprits .Angels. they are not formed from the dust as rudiments of this world. They therefore are not created in the image of God, male and female .Angels as ministering spirits in respect to the fallen ones ….. 1/3.

    They have no way to reproduce anything other than lies. They do not have a soul seeing they are not subject to salvation..

    We know Christ who is not a man as us appeared in the old testament as if he had human form a called a vision, or revelation one the of the manners of prophecy. They are called a theophanies. They have no, DNA.

    Christ used a picture or vision of Moses and Elias neither had flesh and blood as that which could never enter heaven.
    Using a persons imaganaiton as a source of faith I would think belongs to the Hollywood church

    Let no man beguile you of your reward in ae voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, “vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind”,And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. Col 2:18


    When they took the form of human beings? You are very dogmatic. Which of us can say what they could do?
    Scripture reveals the truth of God.

    Besides demon intercourse does not require that they do. Only that the children from the process are demonised.. I suspect you know nothing about demon intercourse? You are wise to keep it that way. But don't dogmatise about things of which you know nothing,
    Demon intercourse ? That would be one subjecting ones own thoughts to the spirit of lies, not seen

    Giants have dna and can obey the commandment to multiply.


    There is no such commandent .THey have no DNA.

    There is no qualifying limit as to how tall or how short a person can be to believe the gospel



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    The bible does not say that angels cannot mate and breed. It says they don't. There's a difference.
    Why would giants, who are living beings have no DNA? Of course they have DNA All living things have DNA.
    You need to get your information and learning from the Holy Spirit and not from intellect....

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    I don't think that we should slaughter them,some aren't even aware of what they are...maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imfinallyfree View Post
    I don't think that we should slaughter them,some aren't even aware of what they are...maybe.
    That is a very nice sentiment my friend...They are a mean and evil creature. They were made by Satan and company. There is no good at all in them. Soon, very soon they will be everywhere on the Earth. They are just waiting to be turned loose...They are cannibals who feast on humans. Fe Fi Fo Fum is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garee View Post
    Did you mean appeared to appear in human form? I see no Scripture which suggests other wise as if we did wrestle against flesh and blood to begin with.

    They are sent as ministering sprits .Angels. they are not formed from the dust as rudiments of this world. They therefore are not created in the image of God, male and female .Angels as ministering spirits in respect to the fallen ones ….. 1/3.

    They have no way to reproduce anything other than lies. They do not have a soul seeing they are not subject to salvation..

    We know Christ who is not a man as us appeared in the old testament as if he had human form a called a vision, or revelation one the of the manners of prophecy. They are called a theophanies. They have no, DNA.

    Christ used a picture or vision of Moses and Elias neither had flesh and blood as that which could never enter heaven.
    Using a persons imaganaiton as a source of faith I would think belongs to the Hollywood church

    Let no man beguile you of your reward in ae voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, “vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind”,And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. Col 2:18




    Scripture reveals the truth of God.



    Demon intercourse ? That would be one subjecting ones own thoughts to the spirit of lies, not seen



    There is no such commandent .THey have no DNA.

    There is no qualifying limit as to how tall or how short a person can be to believe the gospel


    you seem an expert on what angels could and couldn't do. And on whether they could have DNA. What is your authority.? Certainly not the Bible
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    Quote Originally Posted by valiant View Post
    you seem an expert on what angels could and couldn't do. And on whether they could have DNA. What is your authority.? Certainly not the Bible
    I see many Divine Creature DNA Experts around here. They make authoritative statements about the genetic makeup of everything under the sun without posting scripture or even a conspiracy website to back up the claims. They also "know" the mark of the beast is going to alter your DNA as well.

    They all could be right but they never give a single source and when you ask for resources or more information they get hostile and tell you to find it yourself. I've never seen people so eager to spread information who get disgusted when you ask for more instruction.

    Quote Originally Posted by pckts View Post
    I'm pretty deep down the rabbit hole of conspiracies but I haven't seen any of these human-animal hybrids or cyborgs. One of my Ivy league educated English professors believes he can put his brain into a robot and circumnavigate his way around his sins, but I thought those were just baseless claims to keep people from seeking the bread of life.

    Can you give me sources to this? And it better not be infowars....
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    No my friend...You do your own research...Not at all hard to find....Get to work son.
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    These posts remind me of the quote "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we proactice to decieve.".

    It is such an important subject for Chistians to understand the truth of. It requires study outside of the bible, also. Enoch had a lot of history of angels, demons, devils, and nephilim. It requires knowing the history of the book of Enoch and why, when, and how it was excluded from accepted scripture. God created angels before humans as we can see when we study genesis. Not all angels are the same with the same duties.

    There is also a difference between devil, demons, and nephilim. All three have their origins in angels that rebelled against God. They are real and they are our enemies. We need to know about them and how they operate so we can protect ourselves from them.

    We need to learn from the truth, not from what man interprets scripture to say. Scripture gives us truth in plain, simple, straightforward language.

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