Slaughter of the Nephilim, the forbidden race, by Gods people (O.T.)

[pckts]

oes this mean that no one should find out why, when, or how Enoch was thrown out. It was considered fact in Jesus time, why is it not fact now?

You must have heard from someone who learned about "gnostic" or you wouldn't know about it. According to you, you shouldn't have learned anything about it.

Should we keep our children out of school and definitely out of history class? Bible students once declared the bible said the earth was flat and when someone said it was round there were many people who said just as you say--there is no truth outside the bible. Psalms tell us to look to the mountains, the mountains are not bible but something else entirely. Should we stop looking at nature as an expression of God, they are not bible, so they can't be truth.

There are still writings we can see that people wrote at the same time the bible was written. Often they explain how life was then and what people thought so we can understand better what the bible is saying. If this history not to be read, too, based on that the bible is always reliable fact.

Oh my!!!!!

Perhaps it was considered fact in Christ time because the synagogues of Satan promoted it because they worship fallen angels and lies, or maybe it wasn't a fact in christ time and it's just a lie told to people born long after.

I learned about gnostic not from a person who told me what to believe, I used google to study the satanic contents of the gnostic gospels and to learn what evil people wrote it and promote its content today. I learned what they were in a time of my life when I thought I found "lost and hidden texts" of God's word and I was special and let in on a secret. Learning "something" from a "lost text" doesn't mean you should include it as your gospel, I can learn something from reading Dr. Seuss.

Guess what? I agree with those Bible Students who said the earth was FLAT and there is no truth outside The Bible!!!!!! We should keep our children from learning lies of science and history, or at least tell them they are taught lies by a corrupt government.

 

[Denadii]

Perhaps it was considered fact in Christ time because the synagogues of Satan promoted it because they worship fallen angels and lies, or maybe it wasn't a fact in christ time and it's just a lie told to people born long after.

I learned about gnostic not from a person who told me what to believe, I used google to study the satanic contents of the gnostic gospels and to learn what evil people wrote it and promote its content today. I learned what they were in a time of my life when I thought I found "lost and hidden texts" of God's word and I was special and let in on a secret. Learning "something" from a "lost text" doesn't mean you should include it as your gospel, I can learn something from reading Dr. Seuss.

Guess what? I agree with those Bible Students who said the earth was FLAT and there is no truth outside The Bible!!!!!! We should keep our children from learning lies of science and history, or at least tell them they are taught lies by a corrupt government.

You rely on Google to learn about the Word. Hmmmm

 

[pckts]

You rely on Google to learn about the Word. Hmmmm

Should I drive to the library and buy satanic gnostic gospels or am I allowed to use the internet? Do you copy past scripture to this forum from biblegateway and other websites, or do you write it from memory or copy it over from your Bible?

 

[Denadii]

Should I drive to the library and buy satanic gnostic gospels or am I allowed to use the internet? Do you copy past scripture to this forum from biblegateway and other websites, or do you write it from memory or copy it over from your Bible?

Why would you study Satanic anything? Stick with the Word

 

[Rockrz]

Ron Skiba is always worth watching.

Doesn't he teach the earth is... FLAT???

Just so we know...You can prove this?

Maybe he is fathering some nephalims now

Read the Book of Enoch It'll help

That's not inspired by the Lord and is not part of His canon.

We may as well read the cat in the hat than that and get fat as a bat

 

[garee]

It says nothing about 'believers' and 'those who have no faith'. It says 'the children off 'adam' had a relationship with bene Elohim (sons of supernatural beings,). It was not until 4th century AD that anyone thought anything else.



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It was simply teaching they were unevenly yoked jeopardizing the spiritual seed Christ.

The key is who to whatever is in view is ownership. Born of God is to be born again, as sons of God as those who follow after the Holy Spirit of God. To be born of men is to be born of men

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not

.A distinction must be made between the things of God and those of men, Flesh gives birth to flesh. Spirit gives birth to a new spirit that will never die.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.children of men

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown


Psalms 4:2 O ye sons of men, how long will ye turn my glory into shame? how long will ye love vanity, and seek after leasing? Selah.

Genesis 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

 

[samuel23]

For crying out loud folks, the bible does not tell us that some of the sons of Adam were so good that they were called sons of God. The sons of Adam were all the sons of Adam, they even had the names of their fathers and grandfathers recorded, none of them were called sons of God. To call some of the sons of Adam, sons of God, is to add to scripture that which is not recorded in scripture.

 

[Denadii]

For crying out loud folks, the bible does not tell us that some of the sons of Adam were so good that they were called sons of God. The sons of Adam were all the sons of Adam, they even had the names of their fathers and grandfathers recorded, none of them were called sons of God. To call some of the sons of Adam, sons of God, is to add to scripture that which is not recorded in scripture.

I write Sci Fi Fantasy...I see a lot of others on this site that write fiction too. I agree though that they should not claim its God's Word.

 

[Blik]

Why would you study Satanic anything? Stick with the Word

The Word eaches me about Satanic forces as part of the raining I get there. I stick to the word as a yardstick to measure all information. Scripture also teaches history. Are you editing out portions of scripture so you avoid history and learning about demonds?

 

[Denadii]

The Word eaches me about Satanic forces as part of the raining I get there. I stick to the word as a yardstick to measure all information. Scripture also teaches history. Are you editing out portions of scripture so you avoid history and learning about demonds?

I have authority over demons...I do not need to study them to get rid of them. I simply tell them to go and they have no choice but to obey...Do they now..I don't need conversations with them, I don't need to listen to them.

 

[Ariel82]

Notice that Jesus did NOT say men can't be God's children.

John 8
Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.

 

[Ariel82]

Furthermore, the Old Testament does contain references to the sons of God as being human beings.

In Hosea 2:1 we find the following description of the sons of Israel: You are the sons of the living God. Here the phrase sons of God definitely refers to humans, not angels.

Deuteronomy 14:1 reads You are the sons of the Lord your God. Again another reference of the sons of God to humans.

God also calls Israel His son. When Israel was a youth I loved him and out of Egypt I called My son (Hosea 11:1).

Isaiah 43:6 The Lord, speaking of Israel says to the north, Bring My sons from afar

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_724.cfm

 

[jaybird88]

How don't you know that the scripture was taken out of Jude and implanted in this false text? How don't you know it is a complete fabricated lie it was part of scripture "up until the 3rd century AD"?

you reqalize there were Enoch scrolls found among the DSS, all those scrolls were buried before most of the NT books were ever written.

You think God provided us an incomplete Word, and that you hopped online to amazon and completed it for yourself with the book of enoch? You and the gnostics are in the same company, do you subscribe to those "lost texts" too?

thats not a very intelligent statement. the scriptures themselves speak of several books that we do not have today.

You and the gnostics are in the same company

the Pharisees, the ones Jesus and John called sons of the devil rejected Enoch, just like you do.

 

[pckts]

you reqalize there were Enoch scrolls found among the DSS, all those scrolls were buried before most of the NT books were ever written.




thats not a very intelligent statement. the scriptures themselves speak of several books that we do not have today.



the Pharisees, the ones Jesus and John called sons of the devil rejected Enoch, just like you do.

I don't think it's intelligent to tell me I'm the son of the devil for rejecting non-canonical gospels. If any of the texts you and all the geniuses discovered in buried in 1949 were of great importance God would have included them in The Bible.

 

[pckts]

◄ Matthew 5:18 ►
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Falling into a hole at some point and being buried until 1949 counts as disappearing.

 

[jaybird88]

I don't think it's intelligent to tell me I'm the son of the devil for rejecting non-canonical gospels.

i dont think you are the son of the devil at all. just making a point. we know the pharisees rejected Enoch, Jesus teaches the pharisees hid things from the masses. we know the Essenes held Enoch in high regard. we know that Jesus had new teachings that are not found in the Hebrew bible but are found in Essene theology. most theology academics believe John and James were closely connected with the Essenes and probably part of their school of thought.

If any of the texts you and all the geniuses discovered in buried in 1949 were of great importance God would have included them in The Bible.

you could just as easily say the Most High preserved these books for a reason. rome burned and destroyed many holy scriptures,canon and non canon. the Essenes buried them to keep them hidden from rome. they also put themselves at great risk to protect and preserve these scriptures for future generations.

 

[Ariel82]

https://bible.org/article/no-lost-books

Here is an excerpt from the article....

. If the Bible is in fact the inspired Word of God, then the power of God Himself guarantees that no portion of it will ever be lost. There will always be a fully adequate testimony of His Word in every generation.
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It’s ironic that “lost books” advocates often point out that rediscovered texts were missing because the early Church Fathers suppressed them. It’s true; they did. Critics think this strengthens their case, but it doesn’t. Instead it destroys their position by proving that the “lost books” were not lost but discarded, rejected as not representative of Christian beliefs. Therefore, they did not belong in the Christian Bible. If they never were in the Bible in the first place they couldn’t be lost from the Bible.

The books were not included in the Bible for a reason.

You either believe the Bible was divinely inspired and put together by God....or you think it's another religious text you can add or discard parts of as the "spirit" moves you.

 

[Denadii]

Did you know? The entire OT written in Hebrew followed a formula that cannot be duplicated by man? Here Look at the book of Genesis..Just the one book..See if you can write one paragraph using this formula..

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TH]1 [/TH]
[TH="align: left"]The number of Hebrew words = 7[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2 [/TD]
[TD]The number of letters equals 28 (7x4 = 28)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3 [/TD]
[TD]The first 3 Hebrew words translated "In the beginning God created" have 14 letters (7x2 = 14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4 [/TD]
[TD]The last four Hebrew words "the heavens and the earth" have 14 letters (7x2 = 14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5 [/TD]
[TD]The fourth and fifth words have 7 letters[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6 [/TD]
[TD]The sixth and seventh words have 7 letters[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7 [/TD]
[TD]The three key words: God, heaven and earth have 14 letters (7x2 = 14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8 [/TD]
[TD]The number of letters in the four remaining words is also 14 (7x2 = 14)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9 [/TD]
[TD]The shortest word in the verse is the middle word with 7 letters[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10 [/TD]
[TD]The Hebrew numeric value of the first, middle and last letters is 133 (7x19 = 133)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11 [/TD]
[TD]The Hebrew numeric value of first and last letters of all seven words is 1393 (7x199 = 1393)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
​

When professors on the mathematics faculty at Harvard University were presented with this biblical phenomenon they naturally attempted to disprove its significance as a proof of divine authorship. However, after valiant efforts these professors were unable to duplicate this incredible mathematical phenomenon. The Harvard scientists used the English language and artificially assigned numeric values to the English alphabet. They had a potential vocabulary of over 400,000 available English words to choose from to construct a sentence about any topic they chose. Compare this to the limitations of word choices in the biblical Hebrew language which has only forty-five hundred available word choices that the writers of the Old Testament could use. Despite their advanced mathematical abilities and access to computers the mathematicians were unable to come close to incorporating 30 mathematical multiples of 7 as found in the Hebrew words of Genesis 1:1.

The number "seven" permeates the totality of Scripture because the number speaks of God's divine perfection and perfect order. The actual number 7 appears 287 times in the Old Testament (7 x 41 = 287) while the word "seventh" occurs 98 times (7 x 14 = 98). The word "seven-fold" appears seven times. In addition, the word "seventy" is used 56 times (7 x 8 = 56).

One reason the book of Enoch was not included in the bible is that it does not follow this formula, proving its not God inspired

 

[Denadii]

Say!..................How did this thread get onto this topic anyway? :=)

 

[Denadii]

The New Covenant is written in Greek and God did it again....The example here is Matthew.

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TH="align: left"]1 [/TH]
[TH="align: left"]The number of words in the seven word passage is 161 (7x23 = 161)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]2 [/TH]
[TH="align: left"]The number of Vocabulary words is 77 (7x11 = 77)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]3 [/TH]
[TH]Six Greek words occur only in this passage and never again in Matthew. These six Greek words contain precisely 56 letters (7x8 = 56)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]4 [/TH]
[TH]The number of distinct proper names in the passage is 7 [/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]5 [/TH]
[TH]The number of Greek letters in these seven proper names is 42 (7x6 = 42)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]6 [/TH]
[TH]The number of words spoken by the angel to Joseph is 28 (7x4 = 28)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]7 [/TH]
[TH]The number of Greek forms of words used in this passage is 161 (7x23 = 161)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]8 [/TH]
[TH]The number of Greek forms of words in the angel's speech is 35 (7x5 = 35)[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TH]9 [/TH]
[TH]The number of letters in the angel's 35 forms of words is 168 (7x24 = 168)[/TH]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
​

This phenomenal discovery by Panin has been examined by numerous authorities and the figures have been verified. In total, Panin accumulated over forty thousand pages of detailed calculations covering most of the text of the Bible before his death. These incredible, mathematical patterns are not limited to the number seven. There are numerous other patterns. These amazing patterns appear in the vocabulary, grammatical forms, parts of speech, and particular forms of words. They occur throughout the whole text of the Bible containing 31,173 verses. When you consider the amazing details of this mathematical phenomenon you realize that the change of a single letter or word in the original languages of Hebrew or Greek would destroy the pattern. Now we can understand why Jesus Christ declared that the smallest letter and grammatical mark of the Scriptures was persevered by God's Hand: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18).

What was Panin's own view of the Scriptures after a lifetime of diligent study? He wrote the following statement in one of his essays after warning of the limitations of wisdom found in secular philosophy. "Not so, however, with The Book. For it tells of One who spake as men never spake, who was the true bread of life, that which cometh down from the heavens, of which if a man eat he shall never hunger." Ivan Panin's conclusion of the matter was the following challenge. "My friend of the world, whose you are: Either Jesus Christ is mistaken or you are. The answer that neither might be is only evading the issue, not settling it. But the ages have decided that Jesus Christ was not mistaken. It is for you to decide whether you shall continue to be" ("The Signature of God" by Grant R. Jeffrey, Frontier Research Publications, Inc. (1996), p.230-237)panin3.htm

The books of Enoch, Jasher or Josephus or anyone else does not match this formula, so you know its not God's writing.