you all have mental issues

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posthuman

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everyone has mental issues. serious ones.
let me explain:

we can broadly divide mankind into two categories, those who have received Christ and those who haven't.

first, those who have not believed.

the Bible has a lot of things to say about their minds; here's just a few:

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

(Romans 1:21-22)

So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts. Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, and they are full of greed.
(Ephesians 4:17-19)

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see
the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

(2 Corinthians 4:4)

The LORD knows the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.
(Psalm 94:11)

To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe,
nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.

(Titus 1:15)​

here's the scriptural picture of the mental state of all mankind under the influence of the spirit of this age, by the god of this age:


  • their minds and consciences are corrupted.
  • their thinking is futile and vain.
  • they are blinded.
  • their hearts are hardened.
  • they are ignorant & have lost all sensitivity.
  • they think they are wise, but are foolish.

folks, that is unhealthy. that is mental issues. people have serious, serious problems in their minds and their way of thinking -- they are all "nuts" in a way that goes far beyond just mild personality quirks. that's how the Bible describes us: all of us.

second, we who have believed.

when we heard and believed the gospel of Jesus Christ, we were sealed with the Holy Spirit, and that Spirit began on ongoing work in us. first of all, that "belief" is an activity of our mind. that "hearing" involved understanding, a thing that happened in our mind. we can't 'receive' a gospel that we do not comprehend: Christianity is an intellectual belief, not an emotional one. the Bible calls the heart 'deceitfully wicked above all things' but we as having believed - in some of those same verses above - are encouraged not to walk after the same way of thinking that we formerly were in.

yes, we formerly were in. if we have believed and received the Holy Ghost, then all of us were at one time just as ignorant, corrupted, futile and vain in our thinking. we could not receive God because we could not have any knowledge of Him until He revealed it to us: our belief and our faith in Him are gifts from God, His calling in us, who set us apart before the beginning of the world, predestining us to become an inheritance for the Son, a love-gift to Him who bought our redemption with His blood.
we could not seek God because we could not know Him, because our minds, too, were seriously ill.

we were every bit as mentally ill as everyone else in the whole world.
we commonly talk about this as a 'spiritual problem' but see, the Bible talks about this as a mental problem as well: the spirit is not disconnected from the rest of the man! and all of us by the time we are adults have spent tens of thousands of hours being indoctrinated by the spirit of the age into a corrupt way of thinking, building up in us a mentally unstable, irrational and vain state of mind.
we have come to know a Great Physician, praise God!!! -- but if this redemption meant our minds were automatically and forever completely healed, then would the scriptures include so much encouragement and teaching that we should be careful not to continue in these corrupt, mentally-ill ways of thinking? if we were already fully "sane" as it were, would it be necessary for the Spirit to say to us this?

Do not be conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.
(Romans 12:2)​

i'm told that the verb tense here for "renewed" indicates an ongoing process. it is not a one-time deal. we still have the residual effects of the corrupt, vain, mentally unstable, irrational mind-sickness in us that we all were redeemed out of. that is why we need to always be 'mindful' to no longer be pressed into the mold of the spirit of the age, and have our minds instead daily renewed, regenerated, and built up in the truth.
that is the only way we can "discern" the will of God -- and look, again, "discernment" is a thing that goes on in our minds, not in our hearts. it is a cerebral process, not an emotional one!

we have the mind of Christ, it is true, amen! (1 Corinthians 2:16) -- but this is not saying that we all think as Christ does. no, "His thoughts are higher than our thoughts" is still true.
we have the mind of Christ, but we have this through the Spirit that dwells within us, through which God has begun a work of transformation and renewal that is as yet unfinished (Romans 8:23, etc) but will be one day complete, when He returns and reconciles all things.
meanwhile -- we have two laws within us, and we are of two minds: the old way of thinking, which is corrupt and altogether mentally ill, and the new mind that is of God through His spirit given to us by Jesus Christ. these are at war with each other within our hearts and minds: we are schizo, with two radically different ways of thinking opposing each other inside our heads. the scriptures teach us that we should be clinging to one and despising the other; this is the work of God within us, the renewal that goes on each day -- the "therapy" of our Great Physician, our Great Psychologist.

but we are by no means out of "therapy" yet -- none of you have "arrived."

you're mentally ill, still. i am, you are -- all of us are.
we are far better off, having begun the process of recovery, and we have a sure hope that it will be complete, but if anyone thinks they do not have a problem...


well you know what they say "admitting you have a problem is half the battle" ;)


 
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:8) as it is written
:read:
2 Corinthians 5:13
So if we were crazy, it was for God. If we are sane, it is for you.
14*Clearly, Christ's love guides us. We are convinced of the fact that one man has died for all people. Therefore, all people have died.
15*He died for all people so that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for the man who died and was brought back to life for them.
16*So from now on we don't think of anyone from a human point of view. If we did think of Christ from a human point of view, we don't anymore.
17*Whoever is a believer in Christ is a new creation. The old way of living has disappeared. A new way of living has come into existence.

:smoke: as so it is saith
:read:
Titus 3:3
Indeed, we, too, were once stupid, disobedient, and misled. We were slaves to many kinds of lusts and pleasures. We were mean and jealous. We were hated, and we hated each other.
4*However, when God our Savior made his kindness and love for humanity appear,
5*he saved us, but not because of anything we had done to gain his approval. Instead, because of his mercy he saved us through the washing in which the Holy Spirit gives us new birth and renewal.
6*God poured a generous amount of the Spirit on us through Jesus Christ our Savior.
7*As a result, God in his kindness has given us his approval and we have become heirs who have the confidence that we have everlasting life.
8*This is a statement that can be trusted. I want you to insist on these things so that those who believe in God can concentrate on setting an example by doing good things. This is good and helps other people.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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jaybird88

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so its not just me?
 

notmyown

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Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. (Phil 4:8)

think: logízomai

HELPS word studies says--
logízomai (the root of the English terms "logic, logical") – properly, compute, "take into account"; reckon (come to a "bottom-line"), i.e. reason to a logical conclusion

is this one way to renew my mind? (just one way :))
developing a Christian thought life? i don't mean 'the power of positive thinking' :rolleyes:

but if i think about whatever is true, well, that's God as revealed in His Word, yes? truth corresponds to reality, of which God is the final authority. so, be in the Word of God.

come to think of it, all six of the things mentioned come from God Himself, so i should be Christ-focused in my thinking. even when the verse switches to the 'ifs', it's still about God, isn't it?

Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life. (Prov 4:23)

guard what comes into my mind seems like it would be a major part of how i should be thinking, too.

 

Grandpa

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so its not just me?
If you live in America where gay "marriage" is legal and we are getting "transgender" rights to whatever bathroom our mental illness desires, you pretty much know its not just you.
 

blue_ladybug

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Look who's talking.. You're just as mentally disturbed as I am, post.. :p lol jk jk :eek:
 

Blain

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LOL Post when I saw the title of your thread two things came to mind- 1 for those who don't know you like we do they are going to get highly offended and come in here with a sword to swing. 2- this is going to be a great teaching and a thread where we can joke about mental illness
The second one I already see and my friend Kudos to you:D the first well.. it's the bdf so....

I know I have mental illness I am like the mad hatter I am a good kind mental :b
 

crossnote

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All regenerate Christians are being renewed in mind. Some at break neck speed and some break their necks resisting God's promptings and dealings wooing them to His Word.

Oh I believe ἀνακαινώσει (Rom. 12:2 ) renewal is actually a noun not a verb.
 
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CS1

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everyone has mental issues. serious ones.
let me explain:

we can broadly divide mankind into two categories, those who have received Christ and those who haven't.

first, those who have not believed.

the Bible has a lot of things to say about their minds; here's just a few:
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

(Romans 1:21-22)

So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts. Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, and they are full of greed.
(Ephesians 4:17-19)

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see
the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

(2 Corinthians 4:4)

The LORD knows the thoughts of man, that they are vanity.
(Psalm 94:11)

To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe,
nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.

(Titus 1:15)​

here's the scriptural picture of the mental state of all mankind under the influence of the spirit of this age, by the god of this age:


  • their minds and consciences are corrupted.
  • their thinking is futile and vain.
  • they are blinded.
  • their hearts are hardened.
  • they are ignorant & have lost all sensitivity.
  • they think they are wise, but are foolish.

folks, that is unhealthy. that is mental issues. people have serious, serious problems in their minds and their way of thinking -- they are all "nuts" in a way that goes far beyond just mild personality quirks. that's how the Bible describes us: all of us.

second, we who have believed.

when we heard and believed the gospel of Jesus Christ, we were sealed with the Holy Spirit, and that Spirit began on ongoing work in us. first of all, that "belief" is an activity of our mind. that "hearing" involved understanding, a thing that happened in our mind. we can't 'receive' a gospel that we do not comprehend: Christianity is an intellectual belief, not an emotional one. the Bible calls the heart 'deceitfully wicked above all things' but we as having believed - in some of those same verses above - are encouraged not to walk after the same way of thinking that we formerly were in.

yes, we formerly were in. if we have believed and received the Holy Ghost, then all of us were at one time just as ignorant, corrupted, futile and vain in our thinking. we could not receive God because we could not have any knowledge of Him until He revealed it to us: our belief and our faith in Him are gifts from God, His calling in us, who set us apart before the beginning of the world, predestining us to become an inheritance for the Son, a love-gift to Him who bought our redemption with His blood.
we could not seek God because we could not know Him, because our minds, too, were seriously ill.

we were every bit as mentally ill as everyone else in the whole world.
we commonly talk about this as a 'spiritual problem' but see, the Bible talks about this as a mental problem as well: the spirit is not disconnected from the rest of the man! and all of us by the time we are adults have spent tens of thousands of hours being indoctrinated by the spirit of the age into a corrupt way of thinking, building up in us a mentally unstable, irrational and vain state of mind.
we have come to know a Great Physician, praise God!!! -- but if this redemption meant our minds were automatically and forever completely healed, then would the scriptures include so much encouragement and teaching that we should be careful not to continue in these corrupt, mentally-ill ways of thinking? if we were already fully "sane" as it were, would it be necessary for the Spirit to say to us this?
Do not be conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God.
(Romans 12:2)​

i'm told that the verb tense here for "renewed" indicates an ongoing process. it is not a one-time deal. we still have the residual effects of the corrupt, vain, mentally unstable, irrational mind-sickness in us that we all were redeemed out of. that is why we need to always be 'mindful' to no longer be pressed into the mold of the spirit of the age, and have our minds instead daily renewed, regenerated, and built up in the truth.
that is the only way we can "discern" the will of God -- and look, again, "discernment" is a thing that goes on in our minds, not in our hearts. it is a cerebral process, not an emotional one!

we have the mind of Christ, it is true, amen! (1 Corinthians 2:16) -- but this is not saying that we all think as Christ does. no, "His thoughts are higher than our thoughts" is still true.
we have the mind of Christ, but we have this through the Spirit that dwells within us, through which God has begun a work of transformation and renewal that is as yet unfinished (Romans 8:23, etc) but will be one day complete, when He returns and reconciles all things.
meanwhile -- we have two laws within us, and we are of two minds: the old way of thinking, which is corrupt and altogether mentally ill, and the new mind that is of God through His spirit given to us by Jesus Christ. these are at war with each other within our hearts and minds: we are schizo, with two radically different ways of thinking opposing each other inside our heads. the scriptures teach us that we should be clinging to one and despising the other; this is the work of God within us, the renewal that goes on each day -- the "therapy" of our Great Physician, our Great Psychologist.

but we are by no means out of "therapy" yet -- none of you have "arrived."

you're mentally ill, still. i am, you are -- all of us are.
we are far better off, having begun the process of recovery, and we have a sure hope that it will be complete, but if anyone thinks they do not have a problem...


well you know what they say "admitting you have a problem is half the battle" ;)


well that is your opinion But as the bible tells me I am anew creation in Christ Jesus and I have the mind of Christ.

In addition the bible tells me that God has not given me a spirit of fear but of Power, Love and a Health mind!. The word of God blesses the mind of those who hold to HIS word. the flesh has the issues but the Spirit knows the Mind of God; so have HIS Spirit and have HIS understanding that will bless you .
 
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Songs 6:11 I went down into the garden of nuts to see the fruits of the valley,and to see whether the vine flourished, and the pomegranates budded.

You can look for growth in a garden full of nuts
 

CS1

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But there is growth, correct?
absolutely but if it is a sickness I was healed or I was not? I do not have any mental illness nor will I accept a suggestion that I do. :) but that's just me
 

CS1

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Songs 6:11 I went down into the garden of nuts to see the fruits of the valley,and to see whether the vine flourished, and the pomegranates budded.

You can look for growth in a graden full of nuts
the bible says as a man thinks in his heart so is he....... I eat nuts not claim to be one lol
 
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1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

I hate to be harsh,but the world is retarded,they are spiritually retarded.

Like someone in the physical realm that cannot comprehend to physical truths,and some people will say that person is retarded,the people that do not receive the things of the Spirit of God cannot comprehend to the spiritual truths.

I do not like to use the word retarded,but to illustrate the point,the world is retarded,they are spiritually retarded.