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Melchizedek: Angel, Man or Messiah?
11QMelchizedek (11Q13)

by Paul Sumner



For centuries people have wondered who Melchizedek was.

Some Jews used to think he was the Ur-Mensch (the Original Man), in whose image Adam was created. Some that he was Noah's son Shem reincarnated. Others that he was an archangel, perhaps Michael. Early church fathers taught that he was the pre-incarnation of Jesus. Some Christians today teach that he was the Son of God, even though the New Testament never makes this connection.

Growing numbers of non-Christians want mysterious Melchizedek to be an alternative to the ubiquitous Jesus of Western culture. They enshroud him with all kinds of gnostic magical powers, like medieval Merlin. New Age mystics see Melchizedek as an avatar, prophet or mediator of esoteric treasures. For them, he has become a mythical savior being.

All this for someone mentioned only twice in Hebrew Scripture and eight times in the book of Hebrews in the New Testament.

To be clear: based on the Bible, Melchizedek was:

the "king of Salem" [Heb. Shalem; later known as Yerushalayim or Jerusalem]

"priest of the Most High God" and a "great man"

a contemporary of Abraham (ca. 2000 BC[E])
Melchizedek was human, not divine; he was an historical person, not an angel.

["Melchizedek" occurs in: Gen 14:18; Ps 110:4; Heb 5:6,10; 6:20; 7:1,10,11,15,17.]

However, in the era after the return from Babylonian exile in 538 BC[E], when Jews were looking for signs of messianic redemption, speculation about ancient Bible figures returning to save the nation became rampant in priestly circles.

One person of interest was Melchizedek, the obscure king and priest of Shalem at the time of Abraham, fifteen centuries before. Shalem, of course, was where the Temple later stood. Some Jews believed Melchizedek was divine, on par with the angels, or was even a manifestation of God himself.

The following article looks at Melchizedek through the lens of a fragmentary scroll from the Qumran library of the Dead Sea Scrolls (11QMelchizedek or formally 11Q13). This document opens an important window into Bible interpretations and spiritual contemplations of a breakaway group of Jewish priests from Jerusalem, living a century before Yeshua of Nazareth.

Their speculative doctrines about Melchizedek may be the target of criticism in the book of Hebrews in the New Testament, especially chapter 7.

(The English text of 11Q13 follows the introduction.)

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Introduction to 11Q13

This first century BCE work is composed of thirteen small fragments from Qumran Cave 11. It takes the form of an eschatological midrash, or interpretation, on parts of Isaiah. It sees Isaiah's proclamation of liberty to the captives at the end of days (Isa 61:1) as part of a general “year of jubilee” (shenat ha-yovel).

In the Torah, every seventh year was a sabbath year (Lev 25:3-4), in which the land was given rest from being planted or pruned. There was also a jubilee year, actually the 50th year following a succession of seven sabbatical years (7x7), in which all property was restored to its original owner and all debts were cancelled (Lev 25:13; Deut 15:2). All Hebrew slaves were also to be set free.

The Jubilee or Yovel began on the Day of Atonement and was announced by the blowing of trumpets throughout the land. Yovel was thus a marvelous picture of ultimate redemption and freedom from every bondage.

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Heavenly Origins
The author of 11QMelch says the agent of the future Jubilee salvation will be a heavenly deliverer, Melchizedek. In this scroll, he is an exalted divine being, to whom are applied biblical titles generally reserved for God alone: El and Elohim (both of which are also applied to angelic or divine beings in Scripture).

In 11QMelch the mysterious king-priest of Shalem stands in the place of God in the final judgment.
In the author’s citation of Isaiah 61:2 (which speaks of “the year of the YHVH’s favor”) the name Melchizedek is substituted for YHVH, the name of Israel’s God. In addition, Melchizedek is said to atone for the sins of the righteous and to execute judgment upon the wicked — actions usually associated with God himself. The author also quotes Psalm 82:1 (“Elohim stands in the council of El”) but inserts “Melchizedek” in place of “Elohim” (God).

It is clear this Melchizedek isn’t merely human. Just how divine he is, how close he is to God himself, is ambiguous. Other Jewish works of this era reflect a common belief that Someone operated in close proximity to God and shared his authority and even name, though he was not fully God himself. (See the article Visions of the Heavenly Council in the Hebrew Bible.)



Melchizedek (whose name means “king of righteousness” or “righteous king”) also presides over the final judgment and condemnation of his demonic counterpart: Belial, Satan, the Prince of Darkness. In other documents from Qumran this being is called “Melchiresha.”

Melchi-resha (“king of wickedness/wicked king”) darkly mirrors Melchi-zedek (4Q280 “Curses of Melchiresha”; 4Q544 “Testament of Amram”). (The spelling Melchi- comes from the Septuagint Greek Bible, which has influenced English Bibles.)

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The Chief Angelic Priest?
In the mystical Qumran documents known as “Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice” (originally called “The Angelic Liturgy”), Melchizedek appears to be a superior angel. The texts are broken up too badly to be sure of this identification (4Q401 11:3; 22:3).

But what is certain is that the “Songs” depict a hierarchy of angelic priests who serve in the heavenly temple. They are surrounded by other divine beings known as elim or elohim (gods, divine beings) or holy ones, spirits, princes, and ministers. And Melchizedek seems to be a leader of this assembly of servants.

In the so-called “War Scroll” (1QM 13:10; 16:6-8; 17:7), Melchizedek appears to be the archangel Michael, who is “the prince of light” (1QM 13:10-11; cf. 1QS 2:20-22; CD 5:17-19) and “the angel of [God's] truth” (1QS 3:24). Scrolls scholar Carol Newsom says, “it would seem most plausible that Melchizedek is to be identified with the seventh and highest of the chief princes, as Michael is customarily identified with the highest of the archangels.”

The preceding notes were adapted from: Geza Vermes, The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls in English (Harmondsworth, UK: Penguin Books, 1997), 500; Michael Wise, Martin Abegg, Edward Cook, The Dead Sea Scrolls: A New Translation (San Francisco: HarperCollins, 1996), 455; and Carol Newsom, Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice: A Critical Edition (Atlanta: Scholars Press, 1985), 37.

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Hebrew Bible Background
Melchizedek is mentioned only twice in the Hebrew Bible: Genesis 14:18-20 and Psalm 110:4. He lived during the time of Abraham and presided as king over the city of Shalem (Greek, Salem; later known as Yerushalem or Yerushalayim — Jerusalem).

He was also a “priest of God Most High” (kohen l'el elyon) (or “ priest to the Most High God”; Gen 14:18-20). “God Most High” is a synonym for the God of Israel, whose personal name is YHVH (Ps 7:17; 21:7; 46:4). Thus, Melchizedek, king-priest of Shalem, believed in and served the God of Abraham, prior to the patriarch’s arrival in the promised land.

But there is nothing in the biblical text to suggest that Melchizedek is more than human.


In Psalm 110 the “Lord” (Heb, Adon) who shares God’s throne (v. 1) is also a priest. He’s not from the tribe of Levi (the tribe of priests), but operates “according to the order [al divrati] of Melchizedek” (v. 4). He’s in a special category, under divine appointment.

The Judean kings in Jerusalem who sat on the throne of David represented a more ancient order of reality. This is why Yeshua, a grandson of David, applied Psalm 110 to himself; Matt 22:42-45; 26:64.

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Melchizedek in the New Testament
Like the Melchizedek of 11Q13, Yeshua is described as the eschatological judge of the last days.

[God] has fixed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom he has appointed (Acts 17:31).

This is the one who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead (Acts 10:42).

He gave him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man (John 5:27).

This reference to “Son of Man” is an apparent link to the vision in Daniel 7:13-14. There, a “Son of Man” (Aramaic, bar enash) is given authority by the Ancient of Days to rule “all peoples, nations, and languages” (v. 14). It does not explicitly say he will judge the earth. But in biblical thought, a king embodies all of government, including the judicial functions. A king is always the judge.

As son of David, Yeshua embodies three positions of authority: judge, king, priest. As son of God, he is also called God.
King David and his sons were called elohim they were representatives of God on the throne in Jerusalem (Ps 45:7, Eng v. 6; kisakha elohim olam va’ed). Instead of calling them “gods,” it would be better to think of them as “divine ones” who represented the true divine One, God himself. They were his visible face or presence. They were also his “sons” (Ps 2:2, 7; 89:2, 26-27).

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So too, Yeshua is called “God” and God’s “Son” — automatically granting him kingly status (“On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written: King of kings, and Lord of lords”; Rev. 19:16). Like Melchizedek, Yeshua is a “great high priest,” “a merciful and faithful high priest” (Heb 5:14; 2:17).


And he too was not from Levi's tribe, but from David’s tribe Judah (“our Lord rose from Judah”; Heb 7:14). He also descended, by divine appointment, from Melchizedek’s mysterious order (Heb 7:17 quotes Ps 110:3).

Yeshua is a judge-king-priest. But the similarities with Melchizedek break down in the specifics, especially when compared with 11QMelch from Qumran.

Yeshua is Not Melchizedek Reincarnated.
An Anti-Qumran Polemic?
The exalted ideology around Melchizedek in 11Q13 (and the theological atmosphere that produced it) may well be the target of criticism in the book of Hebrews, chapter 7. Contemporary Jewish speculations about Melchizedek would detract from Yeshua as God’s Kohen Gadol.

The NT says Melchizedek was like the Son of God, not that he was the Son of God.
Some disciples of Yeshua apparently believed he was Melchizedek reincarnated — or in later Christian terms, Melchizedek was “the preincarnate manifestation” of the Messiah. (As noted above, this view is found in some Church Fathers and among certain Christian groups today.)

But the author of Hebrews adamantly distinguishes the two priests. Yeshua — not Melchizedek — is the one and only High Priest who “abides forever” and “holds his priesthood permanently” (Heb 7:24). Though the author sees parallels between them, he nowhere suggests they are one in the same person.

Melchizedek was “made like the Son of God” (7:3). Hebrews does not say he was the Son of God.

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Rabbinic Tradition
In later rabbinic tradition, Melchizedek receives little attention, perhaps because of the discussions of him in the New Testament and the speculations about him in Second Temple era Jewish documents, such as 11QMelch or 2 Enoch (esp. chaps. A71-72).

One time in the Babylonian Talmud, he is pictured as the judge of the last days (Sukkah 52b). But in other places, it is Abraham not Melchizedek who is “the priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek” (Ps 110:4; cf. Sanhedrin 108b: “The Holy One, blessed be He, took Abraham and placed him at His right hand.”).

The Palestinian Targum (Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziel) on Genesis 14:18 says Melchizedek was “Shem the son of Noah, the king of Yerushalem.” Whether this means he was a reincarnation of Shem or the original Shem resurrected is unclear (the length of his given life would overlap that of Abraham). But the Shem/Melchizedek identification is common (BT Nedarim 32b; Pirkei Rabbi Eliezer 8 and 27, 3; Midrash Numbers Rabbah 4, 8).

Even Martin Luther preferred the “Shem” identification. The New Testament, however, does not support this idea.

For more on this, see Harold Attridge, Hebrews (Hermeneia series; Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1989), 192-95.

Also consider: Messianic Texts at Qumran and Hebrew Mediators & the Mediator Messiah.


• Paul Sumner

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English Translation of 11QMelchizedek
2nd Century BCE

The following English text was adapted from Florentino García-Martínez, The Dead Sea Scrolls Translated (The Qumran Texts in English) (2nd edition; Leiden, Netherlands: E. J. Brill and Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1996), 139-40.

Transliterated Hebrew words were inserted by Paul Sumner, based on the transcription of 11QMelch by Paul J. Kobelski, Melchizedek and Melchiresha (CBS Monographs 10; Washington, D.C.: Catholic Biblical Assn., 1981), 5-6.

Note: The ellipses in brackets [...] indicate breaks in the original scroll fragments. All Bible references were added by García-Martínez. The line (not verse) numbers follow the original scroll fragments.

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1 [... ] your God [...]

2 [...] And as for what he said: Lev 25:13 "In this year of jubilee, [you shall return, each one, to his respective property," as is written: Dt 15:2 "This is]

3 the manner (of effecting) the [release: every creditor shall release what he lent [to his neighbor. He shall not coerce his neighbour or his brother when] the release for God [has been proclaimed]."

4 [Its inter]pretation for the last days refers to the captives, about whom he said: Isa 61:1 "To proclaim liberty to the captives." And he will make

5 their rebels prisoners [...] and of the inheritance of Melchizedek, for [...] and they are the inheri[tance of Melchi]zedek, who

6 will make them return. He will proclaim liberty for them, to free them from [the debt] of all their iniquities. And this will [happen]

7 in the first week of the jubilee which follows the ni[ne] jubilees. And the day [of atonem]ent is the end of the tenth jubilee

8 in which atonement will be made for all the sons of [God] and for the men of the lot of Melchizedek. [And on the heights] he will decla[re in their] favour according to their lots; for

9 it is the time of the "year of grace" for Melchizedek, to exa[lt in the tri]al the holy ones of God through the rule of judgment, as is written

10 about him in the songs of David, who said: Ps 82:1 "Elohim will stand up in the assem[bly of El,] in the midst of the gods he judges." And about him he said: Ps 7:8-9 "Above it

11 return to the heights, God will judge the peoples." As for what he sa[id: Ps 82:2 "How long will yo]u judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Selah."

12 Its interpretation concerns Belial and the spirits of his lot, who were rebels [all of them] turning aside from the commandments of God [to commit evil].

13 But, Melchizedek will carry out the vengeance of God's judgements [on this day, and they shall be freed from the hands] of Belial and from the hands of all the sp[irits of his lot].

14 To his aid (shall come) all "the gods of [justice"; he] is the one [who will prevail on this day over] all the sons of God, and he pre[side over] this [assembly].

15 This is the day of [peace about which God] spoke [of old through the words of Isa]iah the prophet, who said: Isa 52:7 "How beautiful

16 upon the mountains are the feet of the messenger who announces peace, of the mess[enger of good who announces salvation], saying to Zion: 'your God [reigns']."

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17 Its interpetation: The mountains are the pro[phets ...]

18 And the messenger is [the ano]inted of the spirit [mashiach haruach] about whom Dan[iel] spoke ["...until the time of (the/an) Anointed Prince [mashiach nagid] there will be seven weeks . . . after sixty-two weeks, (the/an) Anointed shall be cut off" Dan 9:25, 26 ]. [... and the messenger of]

19 good who announces salv[ation] is the one about whom it is written that [he will send him Isa 61:2-3 "to comfo[rt the afflicted, to watch over the afflicted ones of Zion"].

20 "To comfo[rt the afflicted," its interpretation:] to instruct them in all the ages of the worl[d...]

21 in truth. [...]

22 [...] it has been turned away from Belial and it [...]

23 [...] in the judgments of God, as is written about him: Isa 52:7 "Saying to Zion: 'your God rules'." ["Zi]on" is

24 [the congregation of all the sons of justice, those] who establish the covenant, those who avoid walking [on the pa]th of the people. "Your God" is

25 [Melchizedek, who will fr]ee [them] from the hand of Belial. And as for what he said: Lev 25:9 "You shall blow the hor[n in every] land."

Column 3 (only small pieces)

1 [Its interpretation ...]
2 and you know [...]
3 God [...]
4 and many [...]
5 [...] Melchizedek [...]
6 the law for them [...] the hand [...] and he will announce [...]
7 they shall devour Belial with fire [...] Belial, and they shall rebel [...]
8 the desires of their hearts [...]
9 the ramparts of Judah [...] the ramparts of Je[rusalem...]

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We had a really good thread (or series of threads) on this very topic some time ago. I'll see if I can hunt them down.
 
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I wouldnt care either after reading that
And why is that?
Some people,it seems , just look for offense.
I thought the rhyme was fetching!
But, as the saying goes: There's no account for taste!
 
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And why is that?
Some people,it seems , just look for offense.
I thought the rhyme was fetching!
But, as the saying goes: There's no account for taste!
I may owe you an apology Pilgrimpassingthrough,
I may not have misunderstood your comments, if so: I apologize. I have been reprimanded by some for my choice in wording titles.
So my rebuttal, is to those who won't look at content.
Peace!
 
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I may owe you an apology Pilgrimpassingthrough,
I may not have understood your comments, if so: I apologize. I have been reprimanded by some for my choice in wording titles.
So my rebuttal, is to those who won't look at content.
Peace!
No problem, if you hadnt said anything I would not have thought a thing of it, I actually missed what you were saying, I think I am still missing it, but no worries here.

Peace unto you in Christ as well
 
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Im sharing your pain I wouldnt care either after reading that, not your fault.

He is my favorite in scripture though.
Are you saying that: You don't find this article interesting???
 
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No problem, if you hadnt said anything I would not have thought a thing of it, I actually missed what you were saying, I think I am still missing it, but no worries here.

Peace unto you in Christ as well
It's late, I just popped up in bed and found this article and wanted to share it. I think the dead sea scrolls are fascinating.
 
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It's late, I just popped up in bed and found this article and wanted to share it. I think the dead sea scrolls are fascinating.

Cool:) I havent read anything on the same, I have difficulty with articles myself Im not too swift
 
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Im sharing your pain I wouldnt care either after reading that, not your fault.

He is my favorite in scripture though.
He is shrouded in mystery. I would love know what you think of him.

That was the purpose of starting this thread. What do people think? What have you read? What have you heard from sermons?
 
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He is shrouded in mystery. I would love know what you think of him.

That was the purpose of starting this thread. What do people think? What have you read? What have you heard from sermons?
Oh I thought the purpose of your thread was asking who cares in more of a pessimistic sense.

I believe he is made a similitude and likeness of the priest who would abide forever, Jesus Christ, before Abraham was and before the Levitical priesthood that brought forth the bread and the wine (even symbolic) of him who is to come who would not be called after the order of Aaron but of that same King and Priest, who is our King of righteousness and peace (in a nutshell). He was made without Father or mother or descent, no beginning of days or end recorded and I believe perfectly reflects in a similitude that which was before the Levitical preisthood which made nothing perfect and how its all wrapped up in Jesus Christ.

I never heard much of a sermon on him, I have always bee fascinated about him and used to think there was just too little to go off of and what was there seemed pretty obscure but thats how mysteries go, and then stuff starts dawning on you and those obscurities become les obscure as you start catching these things building together and there is like this awesome coming and going shown in Christ, that doubles back and is caught back in Genesis before Abraham. But as Hebrews says, there was more to be said (or understood) but they were going to be hard to utter so the more you familarize yourself with the things and think on them the more they open up. Its not like they said, welp, heres the facts... They knew they couldnt do that, it was more difficult then that.

I dont know how much you catch, or what you might be seeing, its always good to find a little of that out. I have a few posts at various forums with the verses I was looking at. I was trying to find my other here under my other name but apparently Im missing it
 
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Oh I thought the purpose of your thread was asking who cares in more of a pessimistic sense.

I believe he is made a similitude and likeness of the priest who would abide forever, Jesus Christ, before Abraham was and before the Levitical priesthood that brought forth the bread and the wine (even symbolic) of him who is to come who would not be called after the order of Aaron but of that same King and Priest, who is our King of righteousness and peace (in a nutshell). He was made without Father or mother or descent, no beginning of days or end recorded and I believe perfectly reflects in a similitude that which was before the Levitical preisthood which made nothing perfect and how its all wrapped up in Jesus Christ.

I never heard much of a sermon on him, I have always bee fascinated about him and used to think there was just too little to go off of and what was there seemed pretty obscure but thats how mysteries go, and then stuff starts dawning on you and those obscurities become les obscure as you start catching these things building together and there is like this awesome coming and going shown in Christ, that doubles back and is caught back in Genesis before Abraham. But as Hebrews says, there was more to be said (or understood) but they were going to be hard to utter so the more you familarize yourself with the things and think on them the more they open up. Its not like they said, welp, heres the facts... They knew they couldnt do that, it was more difficult then that.

I dont know how much you catch, or what you might be seeing, its always good to find a little of that out. I have a few posts at various forums with the verses I was looking at. I was trying to find my other here under my other name but apparently Im missing it
My two cents

I would say it is one of the Old testament theophanies as one of the temporal manifestations of God who is not a man as us, but by a work of His faith He formed that which was tangible to the human senses.

Other ones that showed his invisible powers to the human senses like fire, dividing the sea or communing through Balaam’s donkey, or after other rudiments of this world that did not use human form, to indicate His invisible presence were also used .

It in regard the Melchizedek along with others were used as a precursor for the time of the reformation when the Spirit Christ, the Holy Spirit of God, as the Son of man in regard to his corrupted flesh, typified as sinful came as a onetime outward demonstration of the promised spiritual work of pouring out His Spirit on flesh (not seen).

The actual work of redeeming the elect, as the lamb of God slain from that foundation as a new creatures whose names were written in the Lambs book of life.It is from within the first six days when God was working. He rested on the seventh .
It is the eternal rest we have in Him. The eternal rest does not come from the demonstration ...that helps us believe his promise. Of his own volition he gave up the Spirit that returned to where it came from . We do not accredit it to the Satan inspired crowd for anything .It was a work he performed alone to show us he is not worshiped by human hands, as a will.

It is dependent on if we mix faith (believe God through working of the hearing of His faith ) as a work or labor of His love in what we do hear. The ears he gives us

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world Heb 4:1

The demonstration will not be repeated. I believe the idea of looking for the Son of man which spoke of the temporal flesh, therefore to return as another outward manifestation of God is not something we are to look for.

We walk by faith, not by sight. He will come as a thief in the night or as in the time of Noah. This is when every imagination of the thoughts of the heart was only evil continually, as business as usual .

Supernatural God, as in no nature (a beginning) remains without form as rudiments (flesh and blood) of this corrupted world as our High Priest continually without beginning and without end.

Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
 
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That went over my head so I dont really know how to respond, so I wont do that.

Badger might understand what you are saying
 
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Melchizadek was a shadow and prefigure of CHRIST...
 
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