Deep Theology Made Simple

[crossnote]

1 John 4:7-12,16-21 KJVS
[7] Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. [8] He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. [9] In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

[10] Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. [11] Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another. [12] No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

[16] And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. [17] Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. [18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. [19] We love him, because he first loved us.

[20] If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? [21] And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

What does that look like?

 

[Zmouth]

What does that look like?

See for yourself.

“The Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity. And shall cast them into a furnace of fire there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”

As far the things that offend, apparently Luke 1:35 mentions one of the things that might offend.

Iniquity? While I have my opinion of what it might mean, but I wouldn't want to mislead you since it would be the opinion of the Son of man (male or female) that would define iniquity and having no idea what kind of mind could consider throwing a living human beings into a fire to be burnt alive as holy or righteous ,I wouldn't rule out the possibility the Son of man might define simply breathing as iniquity since it seems pretty obvious there isn't any published law mentioned by which the Son of man shall rule other than by his righteousness.

 

[ukok102nak]

as it is written
:read:
John 18:6
As soon then as he said to them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
7*Again therefore he asked them, Whom do ye seek? And they said, Jesus the Nazarene.
8*Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he. If therefore ye are seeking me, let these men go.
9*That the saying might be fulfilled which he spoke, "Of those whom thou hast given me, I have lost none."

:ty:

godbless us all always

 

[Grace777x70]

1 John 3:23-24 (NASB)

[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

[SUP]24 [/SUP] The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

 

[FreeNChrist]

What does that look like?

I imagine it would look a lot like Jesus.

 

[crossnote]

What does that look like?

Something like this...

John 15:13 KJVS
[13] Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

And this...

Romans 5:8 KJVS
[8] But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

 

[popeye]

Love on its own is not good "theology"

CSLewis belived that un regenerated man could only love through God,and whatever love he exhibits is from God,even though he is not converted.

God is love,but love is not God.

The dynamic of walking in love,is that God takes the person over,therefore love becomes a nature,rather than a reaction.

The same is true of the law/ grace debate.

How can one be disobedient to the law with the LAWGIVER supposedly residing in and in charge of the believers life.

Both these dynamics are established through the believers death.

This is why the love ingredient appears m

 

[popeye]

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[lastofall]

"For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments.." (1 John 5:3)
"If a man love me, he will keep my words.." (John 14:23)
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings.." (John 14:24)

Plain and Simple

 

[popeye]

The baptism of the HS,through the laying on of hands,is the avenue of love.

 

[Willie-T]

What does that look like?

Maybe bringing a homeless homosexual wino home with you to stay in one of your warm rooms?

 

[Willie-T]

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Fat chance. That seems to be one of Robo's pet things. LOL I understand people have been pleading for that modification for years.

 

[Joidevivre]

Love is not pure love until it is a sacrificial thing. That is what Jesus left us as an example.

Sacrificial love puts the other person's need before your own. It gives up what it thinks it has a "right to". And this is impossible to do unless Christ is living in a heart. And He fulfills that person's deepest needs.

 

[popeye]

"For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments.." (1 John 5:3)
"If a man love me, he will keep my words.." (John 14:23)
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings.." (John 14:24)

Plain and Simple

It also says " be ye perfect" and "if any man sin he is of the devil"

Leave out the qualifiers and circular debate enters

 

[valiant]

The baptism of the HS,through the laying on of hands,is the avenue of love.

where is that mentioned in Scripture apart from when men were converted? The baptism in the Spirit take place at conversion (1 Cor 12.13)

 

[Willie-T]

I thought the OP mentioned something about this "being simple." To me, that would be a plain statement about how that is done in the living of life, day-by-day..... not in weaving a grand tapestry of Scriptural matrix.

Isn't that why we were shown the parable of The Good Samaritan?

 

[ladylynn]

Love on its own is not good "theology"

CSLewis belived that un regenerated man could only love through God,and whatever love he exhibits is from God,even though he is not converted.

God is love,but love is not God.

The dynamic of walking in love,is that God takes the person over,therefore love becomes a nature,rather than a reaction.

The same is true of the law/ grace debate.

How can one be disobedient to the law with the LAWGIVER supposedly residing in and in charge of the believers life.

Both these dynamics are established through the believers death.

This is why the love ingredient appears m

I believe the Love of God is always good theology. If we get the "love" right (as real love comes from God) then the other things will fall into place as you go down the line. Without getting the love issue right, all of the other things fail because the motivation is wrong. I don't see how an unsaved person could love properly as the motivation would be all wrong.

An unsaved person can do loving things but he always has a wrong heart attitude because he doesn't have a new heart. And if the person's heart has not been made new., how can they love graciously the way God does?

Even a saved person can do loving things but if he hasn't learned about and trusted in the love of God, even his motivations can be wrong too. His heart has to have been getting renewed each day in order to know about the love of God and have had it activated it in his own life through the work of the HolySpirit.


I believe God is love and God's love is God's love not man's love. Man needs God for 'love' to be real. (without being born again, all a man's righteousness's are as filthy rags) Man's ideas of love fall very short of the real deal. I don't see the love aspect missing at all when it comes to Jesus. When the life of Christ is being lived out in a believers life., the love will be proper and count and be worth something amazing because it comes from God trained and taught to His child.

 

[Marcelo]

[h=1]1 Corinthians 13New International Version (NIV)[/h][FONT=&quot]13 If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,[b] but do not have love, I gain nothing.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror;then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.[/FONT]

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Love is not pure love until it is a sacrificial thing. That is what Jesus left us as an example.

Sacrificial love puts the other person's need before your own. It gives up what it thinks it has a "right to". And this is impossible to do unless Christ is living in a heart. And He fulfills that person's deepest needs.

Yea, sin is self serving, but love seeks not her own. This sacrificial kind of love is the kind of love God desires us to show toward Him, not our will be done, but His will be done.

Romans 12:1
I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.