Jesus: God in Flesh?

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resurrection33

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It seems to me a lot of us believe Jesus Christ was (is) God in flesh, and then, there are others who do not. (They think he is divine, but they don’t think he is the same person as God.)

I don’t think this is a terribly important argument, since we all believe Jesus is our Lord, but let me ask you this: If you were God and decided to come down to earth as a human being, what would you have done differently than Jesus?
 
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As far as I am concerned this is idle speculation at its worst!
Why not ask how many angel can dance on a pinhead?
 
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TonyJay

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resurrection33 said:
It isn't speculation. It is a question.
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You are asking others to indulge in idle speculation.

At your own admission this is not important.
Surely there are much more important and constructive issues to examine.
 
resurrection33

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TonyJay said:
You are asking others to indulge in idle speculation.

At your own admission this is not important.
Surely there are much more important and constructive issues to examine.
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We do that constantly. Why not a friendly discussion about something we don't agree about? I don't think it's the end of the world if people disagree about this issue, but still, shouldn't we endeavor to understand the Lord as much as possible?
 
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resurrection33 said:
It seems to me a lot of us believe Jesus Christ was (is) God in flesh, and then, there are others who do not. (They think he is divine, but they don’t think he is the same person as God.)

I don’t think this is a terribly important argument, since we all believe Jesus is our Lord, but let me ask you this: If you were God and decided to come down to earth as a human being, what would you have done differently than Jesus?
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Done differently than Jesus? Why would I want to start to think that any ideas I could think of would be better than what Jesus did? He saw what His Father was doing and did His will. His will is perfect and good.
 
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God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. "Immanuel" means God is with us. ALL the fullness of the Father is in the Son- that would include deity. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.... And the Word became flesh and made His dwelling amount us."
 
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Trail-of-Truth said:
God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. "Immanuel" means God is with us. ALL the fullness of the Father is in the Son- that would include deity. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.... And the Word became flesh and made His dwelling amount us."
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Amen .
 
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TonyJay said:
As far as I am concerned this is idle speculation at its worst!
Why not ask how many angel can dance on a pinhead?
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thats just silly talk, everyone knows 337 angels can dance on a pin head.

duhh.
 
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jaybird88 said:
thats just silly talk, everyone knows 337 angels can dance on a pin head.

duhh.
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That is correct ...337 angels can dance on the head of a pin...those are for female angels.....the proper count is 357 for male angels....:rolleyes:

 
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Well I guess I have a different view. I think it is exceedingly important to recognize Jesus as not JUST divine, but God in the Flesh. That is my first issue. It's kind of a deal breaker. My second issue is I am a human being born INTIALLY under one man's disobedience, Adam. Therefore, I would do everything differently, and it would be wrong. Jesus did it perfectly, anything else is just wrong. I am new, and I am actually fun. I just think...eh, this is not appropriate. ok. I will indulge for a second....I would have strung up Caiaphas.
 
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resurrection33 said:
It seems to me a lot of us believe Jesus Christ was (is) God in flesh, and then, there are others who do not. (They think he is divine, but they don’t think he is the same person as God.)

I don’t think this is a terribly important argument, since we all believe Jesus is our Lord, but let me ask you this: If you were God and decided to come down to earth as a human being, what would you have done differently than Jesus?
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Um. That's kind of necessary if you want to call yourself a Christian. Also, if Jesus is divine but not God, that makes God a liar when His Word says that there is only ONE God. And we know that God is Truth. So...
 
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1John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another,God abides in us,and His love has been perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in Him and He in us,because He has given us of His Spirit..14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world. 15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God ,God abides in Him,and he in God.
 
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Hebrews 1:1 God who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son ,whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds
 
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John 10:25 Jesus answered them,"I told you, and you do not believe.The works that I do in My Fathers name, they bear witness of Me.26 "But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep, as I said to you. 27 "My sheep hear My voice and I know them,and they follow Me. 28 "And I give them eternal life and they shall not perish;neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 "My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Fathers hand. 30 "I and My Father are one".
 
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resurrection33 said:
It seems to me a lot of us believe Jesus Christ was (is) God in flesh, and then, there are others who do not. (They think he is divine, but they don’t think he is the same person as God.)

I don’t think this is a terribly important argument, since we all believe Jesus is our Lord, but let me ask you this: If you were God and decided to come down to earth as a human being, what would you have done differently than Jesus?
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It's important to know that Apostle's John's description of one being an antichrist is to refuse to believe that Jesus is The Christ. Breaking that statement down, it means to deny that God The Son, The Christ came in the flesh as Jesus of Nazareth.

1 John 2:22-23
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
KJV

Furthermore, only God has power to forgive our sins. If Jesus were not God even when He died on the cross for our sins, then it would mean His sacrifice for sin meant nothing and none of us can be saved through His Blood. Now who would want us to believe that? The Devil, of course.

 
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i don't think the question of whether Christ is God in the flesh or not is 'unimportant'. . .








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PeterJens

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Jesus had to come in the flesh, to be exactly what we are for one important essential point.
God loves us and we can overcome sin and the disappointment and hurt within through knowing God.

Jesus was God to show us He is our friend, not distant or unknown, but right next to us.
Jesus had to allow men to kill Him to show he will forgive sin if you believe and follow Him.

For the forgiveness to be real, to disclose the Fathers heart to us, Jesus had to be God.
He had to die at the hands of men, so we could take our sin and be forgiven.

He had to show the disciples were his friends, brothers, that God accepts us where we are, and he is capable of cleansing us and leading us into eternal life. The key question is will you follow, will you believe?

So it matters that Christ was fully human, and 100% God. Without this the gospel is not real and God is not being honest with us. Ask Jesus to show you His truth, read the gospel of John and things will become clearer. The invitation is real, but it will cost you all you are, to become something you can never loose.
 
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Tessy said:
Well I guess I have a different view. I think it is exceedingly important to recognize Jesus as not JUST divine, but God in the Flesh. That is my first issue. It's kind of a deal breaker. My second issue is I am a human being born INTIALLY under one man's disobedience, Adam. Therefore, I would do everything differently, and it would be wrong. Jesus did it perfectly, anything else is just wrong. I am new, and I am actually fun. I just think...eh, this is not appropriate. ok. I will indulge for a second....I would have strung up Caiaphas.
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i just wanted to welcome you. :)

i too often forget to go to new members forum, where i will promptly head.
 
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