Empaths and Christianity

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TemporaryCircumstances

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That's empathetic, not an empath. BIG difference.

Do some folks recognize emotions in others and connect with the person? Sure. Its a combination of sensitivity and reading microexpressions and sometimes words in ways most don't catch.

But is it paranormally sensing another's emotions? Only in fiction!

I'm empathetic. I can tell you how I was conditioned to become that, although I never tried and don't particularly like it sometimes. I am not an empath. I can no more read an emotion mind to mind than I can read a thought.

Given the two choices, I'd rather read thoughts. That would come in handy driving and in doctor's offices.
Thank you for your answer!
 
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If you mean your empathetic. Too late. I already figured that out about you back in May. (I read your first few post, even if I didn't respond.) You're the best of what empathetic means. I know the pain of having that, but it's also such a relief to the person we empathize with that we know it helps them.

The worst thing people can tell us is to "be careful to protect yourself." Honestly, we can't protect ourselves with this trait past shutting ourselves off completely. What I do sometimes is shut myself off from the person who drains me constantly by coming to me as their sounding board. Some people do take and take and take from us without ever giving in return. From one empathetic person to another, when you see that happening, you'll need to learn how to shut yourself off. And, in your case, since you are helping a friend going through some truly tough things and that friend will be stuck in that situation for years to come, do know you may well need to be the sounding board for years -- decades sometimes -- but the friendship will have to change when the danger is over.

I just lost a friend of 20 years because even when her circumstance finally changed, she still used me to get rid of all negative emotions. And she kept right on doing that despite knowing I'm going through some tough times myself.

It's tough being empathetic, but I'd rather be this than never connect to anyone past talking about the weather.
I agree it is tough, but if I shut myself off I feel awful. I love being here for people to talk to even if I do get exhausted or a tad bit overwhelmed I can hide it until they are done talking about what they need to. I just couldn't do that...
 
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1.There is a general empathy which everyone has, except maybe psychopaths.
2.There is a stronger trait of empathy, physical in nature, that notices the least characteristic in a mood. Some seem to have been born with it, others have developed it over time due to environment.
3. There is a spiritual empathy, where one feels the needs of others to minister to them. (rejoice with them that rejoice, weep with them that weep)
4. There is spiritual discernment, given by the Holy Spirit to "know" a situation/need that's physically & emotionally unseen, sometimes by even the person with it. This is not empathy, though compassion will be present in the believer making it look so.
5. There is a supernatural (psychic) ability to "know" things about others with or without empathy. This ability is demonic, for the people possessing this ability usually aren't saved. God won't put His spirit on an sinner, though He did it at least twice in the Bible. It's not the norm.

This being said, how can one tell the difference? IF the ability is a supernatural one, long before salvation, it is demonic. I've read of several people having psychic abilities after salvation, & when they prayed about it to leave it would, never to return.

Many thought to be empaths are merely "good readers" of a person's mannerisms. (fake psychics & magicians)

I agree with Ugly totally on this one..... NEVER use the word "empath" as the title of a christian with a spiritual gift! Already worldly, demonic techniques are used in the church today such as yoga, meditation, & out of body experiences. Then there's the kundalini experience in charismatic circles. These have been accepted with open arms because some "leader" in the church taught it as acceptable doctrine. Using such names & phrases will make it acceptable to the church, allowing demons access to the body of Christ.

It is very easy to pray, "Lord, if this isn't of you, take it away, & if it is, multiply it on me to be a greater blessing. Because of the complications of discerning which is which, my advice is to let the Head of the Church have the last word on it thru prayer.
Thank you for your answer Stephen
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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Yeah, it's a controversial one. I don't agree with the occult or any new age views, and I only follow the word of God.

Hyper sensitivity to people and animals. Nothing paranormal about that. It is different from empathy. Pretty much everyone has empathy, but the characteristics of this are more in tune than regular empathy.

Maybe the best name to give it is "hypersensitive empathy" rather than empath since if you look up the word empath it will come up with a load of new age nonsense where they claim psychic powers of some kind. I like Rachel's post in relation to this.

Nothing paranormal about this. No auras, no psychic ability. Nothing evil about this.

Its a blessing but is a burden at times.
Thank you for all of your answer Katy!
 
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mc2kingdom

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I believe what you are commenting on. I believe people obtaining power apart from being a child of Jesus Christ is Satanic and deceiving and eventually leads to destruction. If it is not from Jesus, the only other source is from Satan. Bottom line. Great explanation!!
 
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One more comment....I agree, as a Christian, that empaths have the gift of discernment which is plainly, navigation and sensitivity to the truth along with specific talents...each of us have different talents, the key is to go to Jesus, and his spirit will help you find yourself, and then use it for his glory!!
 

Nehemiah6

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Are there Christian Empaths/ can Empaths be Christian?
According to Psychic Review (which I will not link) empaths are much more than empathetic Christians (and all Christians should really be empathetic in a healthy sense).

Empaths may have the ability to pick up on the feelings, emotions and even thoughts of other people. Empaths are extremely sensitive to the emotions of other people and some are said to have the ability to read not only another person’s emotions, but the thoughts and emotions of people connected to that person. This could be an excellent asset if you were curious as to what your significant other is thinking or feeling. Some empaths are even said to be able to predict the future of relationships. Empaths by definition are normally very compassionate which would stand to reason as they can “feel” the emotions of people they interact with. Psychics are often labeled as being empathic or intuitive. These terms seem to be used interchangeably when describing these abilities.
 
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I forgot about this thread xD
Welcome back my zombie thread
 
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Empaths don't tend to 'come across' empathetic, however the 'coming across' to others, is the observers' own apathetic response to something which is rare and little understood or comprehended. What I'm saying is that people most often are less empathic than they think they are, and confuse sympathy with empathy.

Empathy is truly something of God's nature. But while confusing that with sympathy, you have a different version of God who appears in your imagination as some kind of non-material yet human-like parent.

Sympathy is mathematical, mirrored memories and perception, putting together pictures out of things that already exist (which is how they are teaching AI). This is why one might think God is 'very old' or 'must have a white beard' or is like a 'wise old man' or 'must be like a human without a body' or 'thinks' or 'decides' or 'has bad days' or 'gets angry'.

While an empath sees the absurdity of how people might think, the sympathetic see absurdity in the empath. Jesus saw demons in people. Pharisees 'declared' absurdity in Jesus. Both are true, but which one is absurd? Because one isn't, and yet today, no-one speaks of it, they don't dare. Leave that to the movies.

Sympathy is to the mind/flesh - it can be helping someone suffer in comfort (many do this and feel happy in doing so). But they might think that this is empathy.

Empathy is to the soul/spirit - it is seeing the suffering, seeing the solution, and taking a person out of suffering even if it means their own suffering. The methods may 'appear' as non-empathetic to others. But this is what happens when you think sympathy, is empathy.
 
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Locutus

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I felt this thread might return...:p
 
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You've been watching too much Star Trek.
"Empaths" are not real.
But,
I never said Empaths were real. When I posted this I was confused by all of this because of influences in my life so I wanted to know what others thought :)
 
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mc2kingdom

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Stephen,
Sorry, I must disagree with you that the Holy Spirit won't be put on a sinner. When you accept Christ, his spirit lives within you, and moreover he died for our sins and he said it is finished so he does not condemn us for that, only atheism. I agree with everything else you said.
 

Gabriel2020

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That is not entirely true. God put the Holy spirit on a few sinners for the purpose of making his people believe what he would do to them if they did not commit to his commandments. He filled Nebuchadnezza with the Holy Ghost briefly to tell him that he would take his people into exile and take their land. He told them what God had said, that the land would be his. He used joseph and mary, also Elizabeth as well. There are other incidents that i cannot recall at the moment.
 
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Are there Christian Empaths/ can Empaths be Christian?
Not sure of your question....

I,believe God built within all humans the ability to,be empathetic to a degree so we can function as a society.

The Bible talks about bearing one another's burdens and one of the shortest and most powerful sentences in the Bible is Jesus wept. Also we have the verses about weeping when people weep and rejoicing when they rejoice,

So if you are asking can a Christian feel the feelings of another human being?

Then the answer is yes because that is how God designed humans to be.

However if your question is can Christians have this "magical" ability that other humans don't have to experience others emotions..,so much so that they can't tell their own emotions from the other person?

Then no..,demons are know on to torment people or puff up pride by telling them lies about how magical they are and how they have "secret knowledge"