It is night time.

[Yet]

Isaiah 60:2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the people. But the Lord shall rise upon you ( a remnant with oil in their lamps) and His glory shall be seen upon you, ( and disdained).

Daniel 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end, many (christians) shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Yet never coming to the knowledge of the truth, 2Tim. 3:7

2Thess. 2 A falling away (apostasy) first? The greek: divorce!

and for this cause, receiving not the love of the truth, God will send them (the church) strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

I Thess. 5. He comes as a thief in the NIGHT...DARKNESS....DRUNK IN THE NIGHT....THEY THAT SLEEP, SLEEP IN THE NIGHT!

This is the DARKNESS of an apostate ekklesia that Isaiah 60 speaks to.

To 'fall away' you must be there first. It's the collective 'church' of born again believers that have 'fallen away' into apostasy.

A sleepy eyed look at christendom will prove to you that the one world church of the antichrist is in full throttle. Unity, unity, unity is all you hear anymore. The TRUTH be damned. What fellowship has light with darkness? 2Cor. 6:14. ZERO, NONE!

So if fellowship of all the diverse churches is working out quite well, it's because they all dwell in darkness, just what Isaiah prophesied.

The time has come and has been here for years that the true remnant, that have eyes and ears, and see this fallen ecclesia, can't turn the tide. The night is indeed here where 'no man can work', John 9:4. Work they may but with little results. God's strong delusion has a purpose. To seperate goats from sheep.

 

[mpaper345]

Daniel 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end, many (christians) shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Yet never coming to the knowledge of the truth, 2Tim. 3:7

This does not mean that.The book of Daniel is sealed until the end,which nobody can understand it until the end,because they have to be able to observe the world to do so,which they could not back them,and not until not too long ago.

Many shall run to and fro,and knowledge shall be increased,advanced travel,and advanced technology,which the saints can then observe the world,and know what is going on in the world,and then they can understand the book of Daniel,and also the technology will cause the world to come together,because they can communicate with each other,and travel to each other.

2Thess. 2 A falling away (apostasy) first? The greek: divorce!

and for this cause, receiving not the love of the truth, God will send them (the church) strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

This has nothing to do with the Church,but the falling away is when the world will not accept the truth of the Bible,but according to their own lusts,which fundamental Christianity starts declining rapidly,not because of hypocrites,but because the world will not accept it to make new converts,because the new age movement unified the religions,with Christianity,Islam,and Judaism,interpreted by the new age movement,making them all compatible,and valid,for spiritual enlightenment.

Nobody will listen to each others religion,or path,for spiritual enlightenment,because all are equally valid.How can you tell a Buddhist to accept Christianity,if all religions are valid.Christianity will start rapidly losing its ability to preach the Gospel,hence the falling away,because the world will stop accepting the truth of it.

God will send strong delusion to all who love not the truth,but have pleasure in unrighteousness,and is not talking about the Church,but all people on earth that have pleasure in unrighteousness,which includes the world,and all hypocrites claiming Christ,because they do not belong to the Church.

I Thess. 5. He comes as a thief in the NIGHT...DARKNESS....DRUNK IN THE NIGHT....THEY THAT SLEEP, SLEEP IN THE NIGHT!

This is the DARKNESS of an apostate ekklesia that Isaiah 60 speaks to.

To 'fall away' you must be there first. It's the collective 'church' of born again believers that have 'fallen away' into apostasy.

The Church does not fall away,because it is impossible for the Church to fall away,which Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church,and where two or three are gathered in Jesus' name,He is in the midst of them.As long as there are two or three in the truth on earth,that is Church.

Hypocrites that claim Christ do not even fall away,for they accept Jesus as Savior,this falling away is when the world will not accept the truth that Jesus is Savior,among other serious errors.That false interpretation of the Bible all religions will accept,and be the pattern for the rest of the religions.

But it is true that there are a lot of people that want all Christian denominations together,in unity,but the falling away is when the world will not accept the truth of the Bible,but want to hear it according to their own lusts,that go beyond a typical hypocrite,but is of the new age movement that unifies the religions,that is interpreted by nature worship,witchcraft,and evolution,and it is the falling away because the world will not accept the truth of it,so the Christians lose their impact on the world to make new converts,because the 7 years period is the time that God allows all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,which God will send them strong delusion to follow it,and God will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him,so the first half they do not accept the truth of the Bible,the falling away,and then they accept the beast,and all religions are done away with then.

It is true when someone has an agenda about a certain subject that they are against,they will find that subject they are against in scriptures that are not even there.

 

[breno785au]

Its okay mpaper, he frequently adds to the Word like that to make it support his views of the church.

 

[tanakh]

Another Church bashing session from Yet! Paul says we are all parts of the body. Im wondering which particular part Yet represents, the spleen would be a good candidate.

 

[ladylynn]

Yet., you need a revelation of the grace of God in Christ for you as part of the church body. There is no more condemnation to those who are IN Christ Jesus. We are sheep of His pasture and He gave His life for the sheep. He isn't going to take His staff and beat up His sheep making them bloody. He was already made bloody when He went to the cross for us. He finished the work, took the condemnation and the pain and the shame. Isaiah 53



[h=3][/h]53 Who has believed [confidently trusted in, relied on, and adhered to] our message [of salvation]?
And to whom [if not us] has the arm and infinite power of the Lord been revealed?
[SUP]2 [/SUP]
For He [the Servant of God] grew up before Him like a tender shoot (plant),
And like a root out of dry ground;
He has no stately form or majestic splendor
That we would look at Him,
Nor [handsome] appearance that we would [SUP][a][/SUP]be attracted to Him.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]
He was despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and pain and acquainted with grief;
And like One from whom men hide their faces
He was despised, and we did not appreciate His worth or esteem Him.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]
But [in fact] He has borne our griefs,
And He has carried our sorrows and pains;
Yet we [ignorantly] assumed that He was stricken,
Struck down by God and degraded and humiliated [by Him].
[SUP]5 [/SUP]
But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our wickedness [our sin, our injustice, our wrongdoing];
The punishment [required] for our well-being fell on Him,
And by His stripes (wounds) we are healed.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]
All of us like sheep have gone astray,
We have turned, each one, to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the wickedness of us all [our sin, our injustice, our wrongdoing]
To fall on Him [instead of us].

[SUP]7 [/SUP]
He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth [to complain or defend Himself];
Like a lamb that is led to the slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before her shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]
[SUP][b][/SUP]After oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And [SUP][c][/SUP]as for His generation [His contemporaries], who [among them] concerned himself with the fact
That He was cut off from the land of the living [by His death]
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke [of death] was due?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]
His grave was assigned with the wicked,
But He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]
Yet the Lord was [SUP][d][/SUP]willing
To crush Him, [SUP][e][/SUP]causing Him to suffer;
If [SUP][f][/SUP]He would give Himself as a guilt offering [an atonement for sin],
He shall see His [spiritual] offspring,
He shall prolong His days,
And the will (good pleasure) of the Lord shall succeed and prosper in His hand.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]
As a result of the [SUP][g][/SUP]anguish of His soul,
He shall see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge [of what He has accomplished] the Righteous One,
My Servant, shall justify the many [making them righteous—upright before God, in right standing with Him],
For He shall bear [the responsibility for] their sins.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]
Therefore, I will divide and give Him a portion with the great [kings and rulers],
And He shall divide the spoils with the mighty,
Because He [willingly] poured out His life to death,
And was counted among the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore and took away the sin of many,
And interceded [with the Father] for the transgressors.


Amen.

Though our sins be like scarlet He shall make them white as snow. It's done.

 

[oyster67]

Amen, brother Yet. The way they smash and bash you just goes to prove that your message is correct. You will have your reward for standing for the Biblical truth. We will not have to endure opposition much longer. Godspeed.

 

[ukok102nak]

:smoke: as it is written
:read:
Marcos: 11. 15. And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;
16. And would not suffer that any man should carry any vessel through the temple.

17. And he taught, saying unto them, Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.
18. And the scribes and chief priests heard it, and sought how they might destroy him: for they feared him, because all the people was astonished at his doctrine.

... . indeed as Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves.
as it is written
:read:
Mga Bilang: 24. 16. He hath said, which heard the words of God, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:
17. I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.
18. And Edom shall be a possession, Seir also shall be a possession for his enemies; and Israel shall do valiantly.
19. Out of Jacob shall come he that shall have dominion, and shall destroy him that remaineth of the city.
20. And when he looked on Amalek, he took up his parable, and said, Amalek was the first of the nations; but his latter end shall be that he perish for ever.

:ty:

godbless us all always

 

[Yet]

Ladylynn, you need a revelation of the word of God concerning the signs of the times and the clear teaching on the final condition of a rebellious people, led by blind self interested hirelings. I dont need to make this up. Its all outlined in your bible If you'd dare to take the time to study.
However, if everyone did see the scriptures for what they are saying, I'd have no opposition which would prove those very scriptures false. So you are what you are because of God's 'strong delusion' He has sent.

 

[Yet]

Another Church bashing session from Yet! Paul says we are all parts of the body. Im wondering which particular part Yet represents, the spleen would be a good candidate.

I bash, indeed, nay, but expose falsehood. Why are you not helping me?? Answer. 'Strong delusion' that God promised for those that reject His word. I speak harshly for time is running out.
No time for Mr. Roger's 'beautiful day in the neihborhood' folks. You are all big boys and girls now, but still sucking on pablum? The robbery of the poor is the main thing that tears it for me. It doesn't bother you eh? Why not? You don't know His heart yet? The following verse proves it, Jeremiah 22:16.

 

[PennEd]

Isaiah 60:2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the people. But the Lord shall rise upon you ( a remnant with oil in their lamps) and His glory shall be seen upon you, ( and disdained).

Daniel 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end, many (christians) shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Yet never coming to the knowledge of the truth, 2Tim. 3:7

2Thess. 2 A falling away (apostasy) first? The greek: divorce!

and for this cause, receiving not the love of the truth, God will send them (the church) strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

I Thess. 5. He comes as a thief in the NIGHT...DARKNESS....DRUNK IN THE NIGHT....THEY THAT SLEEP, SLEEP IN THE NIGHT!

This is the DARKNESS of an apostate ekklesia that Isaiah 60 speaks to.

To 'fall away' you must be there first. It's the collective 'church' of born again believers that have 'fallen away' into apostasy.

A sleepy eyed look at christendom will prove to you that the one world church of the antichrist is in full throttle. Unity, unity, unity is all you hear anymore. The TRUTH be damned. What fellowship has light with darkness? 2Cor. 6:14. ZERO, NONE!

So if fellowship of all the diverse churches is working out quite well, it's because they all dwell in darkness, just what Isaiah prophesied.

The time has come and has been here for years that the true remnant, that have eyes and ears, and see this fallen ecclesia, can't turn the tide. The night is indeed here where 'no man can work', John 9:4. Work they may but with little results. God's strong delusion has a purpose. To seperate goats from sheep.

Well, if as you define this Scripture that YOU shouldn't have fellowship with us because we are apostate and in darkness, doesn't that mean you are breaking the Word by being here in fellowship? Hypocrite!! Apostate!! What shall be done to you for this great offense?

 

[thepsalmist]

Apostasy has been going on for at least two thousand years ... why would that mean the night has come now?

I expect to hear of a great change in the Jews towards Christ before I believe that the times of the gentiles is over.

I think it wise to continue to "work" as God gives us opportunity.

How destructive and evil would it be for Christians to stop working in the day because someone erroneously told them it was night?

 

[Yet]

Its okay mpaper, he frequently adds to the Word like that to make it support his views of the church.

What have i added? Of course you'd not see what i'm saying. It's darkness over your mind. Buy you dont have to stay their. Your choice. Your beloved wolf behind the pulpit or God's word.

 

[Yet]

Well, if as you define this Scripture that YOU shouldn't have fellowship with us because we are apostate and in darkness, doesn't that mean you are breaking the Word by being here in fellowship? Hypocrite!! Apostate!! What shall be done to you for this great offense?

This is a venue of access to the folks. Paul did not forsake those that rejected him in Asia. He bit the bullet and kept on teaching.

Now tell me why i'm a hypocrite and an apostate. Is it because i dont hold to devouring widow's house and the poor with the devilish tithe? Or maybe it's because i don't hold to the 'deeds of the Nicolaitans'(cleric division)? Rev. 2 and 3
Perhaps because i do not support the trend of wearing religious titles that exalts a man above others. Matt. 23:4-12

Or because i believe all elders are 'pastors', and all are required to get off their lazy behinds and work jobs. 1Peter 5 and Acts 20

You,like others, throw an accusation at me without proof/evidence/scrpture. But that's what you are suppose to do. I'm not mad atcha. Please study these scriptures, but not with a closed, churched to death mind.

 

[Yet]

Apostasy has been going on for at least two thousand years ... why would that mean the night has come now?

I expect to hear of a great change in the Jews towards Christ before I believe that the times of the gentiles is over.

I think it wise to continue to "work" as God gives us opportunity.

How destructive and evil would it be for Christians to stop working in the day because someone erroneously told them it was night?

What you are missing is the fact that the 'church' is getting more apostate by the hour. This is the sign that is followed by the revealing of the antichrist.

Take a break from your favorite milk dispencer behind the pulpit. How do i know its milk? From what you said. You r not getting what i am saying. Do some research on your own. Turn off the milk faucet for a while.

 

[ladylynn]

Ladylynn, you need a revelation of the word of God concerning the signs of the times and the clear teaching on the final condition of a rebellious people, led by blind self interested hirelings. I dont need to make this up. Its all outlined in your bible If you'd dare to take the time to study.
However, if everyone did see the scriptures for what they are saying, I'd have no opposition which would prove those very scriptures false. So you are what you are because of God's 'strong delusion' He has sent.

Hi Yet, I wasn't trying to be a smart alec when I said you need a "revelation" It's what the Holy Spirit gave me about God's love IN Christ. I needed a revelation that all my sins and the judgment and cursing and harsh payment that went with the imputed sin I had in Adam was all taken when Jesus shed His blood on the cross and I accepted Him as my Savior. Now He is my Savior and the Good Shepherd of my soul who looks after me and takes care of me. He is my Advocate. He paid for me to come in to the very presence of God and I have the witness of the Holy Spirit that assures me there is NO fear in love., that perfect love casts out fear. If you have Jesus., there is no more fear of judgment.

I have read the Bible and do read the Bible and know about the end condition of those who do not have Jesus Christ as their Advocate (it is not the church) and it isn't pretty. That is why I posted Isaiah 53. I'm not sure what you do with all the Bible verses that testify to His love (grace) for those who have His imputed righteousness on them.

The delusion is when the enemy gets people's eyes off of Christ an onto self righteousness and religion of men. Jesus did not come into the world to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved. That is the good news of the Gospel. We are living in the time of getting that good news out. Jesus is the Way the Truth and the life. Tell people of the Love of God in Christ so they do not have to face judgment on their own merit. It's GOOD NEWS and we have opportunity to shine that light on the world! It's still DAY TIME and there is still time.

 

[Vdp]

There are two Churches in the World.

There is the True Church of Believers, those who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

Then there is the Church of the World who reject Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

What we have seen is the True Church of Believers getting smaller while the Church of the World is getting larger.

A good example just in Christendom is the Catholic Church, the Mormon Church, and others.

In the World Church we have Hinduism, Islam, ect.

So yes the time is getting shorter and shorter. We are just around the corner from seeing the Anti-Christ come into power.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Merely stating that "the church" has fallen away or that "people" are false teachers or anything along those lines will help no- one.

If you feel a person in a church does false teaching, confront them with it

 

[Yet]

The gross darkness over the people has always been down through history. Israel's darkness was because of the religious bondage the folks were sunjected to by the religious wolf leaders.

Today? Not much difference.

 

[ladylynn]

And on a personal note about the tithe., the tithe is the LEAST of the churches problems. Money is not the beginning and ending of all things. Why do you talk about it so much? Money is a tool we use and God owns it all and gives it to who He pleases when He pleases. If a widow or orphan has a problem, it is not the tithe., It is never having heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If they have Jesus, they have all they need.

And this is just my opinion and I don't know if you think this way but it "seems" like the very thing you hate so much (money) is the very thing you have made your platform to stand on and against. And then spending time here preaching about the evils of money and it's uses by other Christians in other churches . WHO CARES ABOUT MONEY!!!!????? It is a minor thing and it is not what secures us in this world or in the world to come. Jesus is. Shouldn't we be preaching Jesus and Him crucified? NOT money and it's evils. If we have Jesus and the Gospel He brought of grace and truth., we have all we need to then make right choices about something as minor as money and wealth. Without Jesus who IS our wisdom., there cannot be any truth in how to look at money anyway. Get the main thing fixed and all those other things will be fixed eventually. I think you have it backwards Yet.

 

[UnderGrace]

Isaiah 60:2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the people. But the Lord shall rise upon you ( a remnant with oil in their lamps) and His glory shall be seen upon you, ( and disdained).

Daniel 12:4 But you, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end, many (christians) shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Yet never coming to the knowledge of the truth, 2Tim. 3:7

2Thess. 2 A falling away (apostasy) first? The greek: divorce!

and for this cause, receiving not the love of the truth, God will send them (the church) strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

I Thess. 5. He comes as a thief in the NIGHT...DARKNESS....DRUNK IN THE NIGHT....THEY THAT SLEEP, SLEEP IN THE NIGHT!

This is the DARKNESS of an apostate ekklesia that Isaiah 60 speaks to.

To 'fall away' you must be there first. It's the collective 'church' of born again believers that have 'fallen away' into apostasy.

A sleepy eyed look at christendom will prove to you that the one world church of the antichrist is in full throttle. Unity, unity, unity is all you hear anymore. The TRUTH be damned. What fellowship has light with darkness? 2Cor. 6:14. ZERO, NONE!

So if fellowship of all the diverse churches is working out quite well, it's because they all dwell in darkness, just what Isaiah prophesied.

The time has come and has been here for years that the true remnant, that have eyes and ears, and see this fallen ecclesia, can't turn the tide. The night is indeed here where 'no man can work', John 9:4. Work they may but with little results. God's strong delusion has a purpose. To seperate goats from sheep.

I believe you are making some wrong comparisons and thereby drawing wrong conclusions.

Ekklesia (called out assembly ) is not buildings and denominations they are the true spiritual church of Jesus, the Bride of Christ.

They are saved period!

The "falling way" in 2 Thess 2:3 is a general falling away, opposing the things of God, a place where there is no morality, which for many years there was a basic moral standard based on the Ten Commandments.

How else can the man of perdition come, do you think he will be successful in a world that still has some idea of right and wrong?

If you continue reading Paul is very clear the people are that are falling away and will perish because they were even further deceived rather than coming to the truth...

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

Whole picture is always best. God is a good and He knows what He is doing.