An unholy trinity?

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forgivenandloved

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wonders why the avatar remains unchanged if one knows what it is perceived to represent. I'd change mine immediately if I thought others perceived it as satanic, why havent you changed it grey?.

he probably doesn't care what people think same thing I would do.
 
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What about what pleases the Lord? does this not matter? & I'm curious about the bible that has this (or so some have said...)
 
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I'd change it because if followers of the Lord perceive it as satanic what if it is, why would one want to hang out in a christian site with a satanic avatar? troll? I really am just wondering the motivation or his perceived meaning of his avatar, perhaps its nothing.
 
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forgivenandloved

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things are only satanic if you let it. If in his hard he's trying to please God what others see doesn't matter.
 
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You are wrong about that forgiven, absolutely wrong... If its not satanic thats fine, but if it is, why would someone allow themselves to be a tool used by satan?. If its not satanic and is something other than what others have posted then by all means defend it. I would not have a pentagram as my avatar lest I be received by my brothers & sisters in the Lord as a witch. Perhaps the other posts were inaccurate assessment of his avatar. If this is the case by all means state it. But never ever be deceived in thinking that if we take on satanic imagry that we are not effected by this. This realm is REAL.
 
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God is love. God is before all things created. Can love be shown without someone to love? No, u cant love nothing. If God is love He had to have someone to love from the beginning, hence Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit was with Him from the beginning. Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit wasnt created because if They were, it would simply mean that there was a time when our loving God was alone and that would also mean that there was once a time when our God was without love.

A created being couldnt have taken our sins away, it took an infinite being to take away our infinite punishment. It took our God Jesus Christ to free us from the second death. A lamb's blood couldnt do it, a human's blood couldnt do it, an angel's blood couldnt do it, but only a God's blood could have done it. Our God Christ Jesus humbled Himself to death even the death of the cross to give us life. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are one.

John 10:30 - I and my Father are one.
Deu 6:4 - Hear, O Isreal: The Lord our God is one
1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
 
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Good & true post Jada so what is your idea about the existance of a trinitarian satanic existance? I think its Hogwash like Phil said its giving Godly attributes to satan that are unjustified.

Also for forgiven & loved dont forget, I agree with your grace message but we are also to:

1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (King James Version)



19Quench not the Spirit.
20Despise not prophesyings.
21Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22Abstain from all appearance of evil.

c/o biblegateway.com. Just so you know I spent much time and effort defending my sinful lifestyle rather than trying to please the Lord. Conviction of our sin is inevitable when we have the Holy spirit. We do these things because of an earnest desire to please the Lord. We fail & thats ok because Gods grace in Christ Jesus is sufficient. We should though, when faced with things that may press our buttons, look earnestly at why that is, are we clinging to a misconceived idea about our Lord? Thats how it was with me. Started looking at the Christian in the mirror about 5 years ago & didnt like that hypocrite much. Do as you will, say what you will, but nothing compares to victorious conquering of a bad habit in the name of Jesus. Dont get me wrong, I dont think that this is necessary to salvation I just prefer to no longer cling to the old me, cause the new me is so much happier trying not to grieve the Holy Spirit. Not by my works but covered in the shelter of my savior lest I boast as it seems, when I pridefully look within, shortly thereafter I do something that totally and completely grieves the Holy Spirit. We really should try to please the Lord who loves us so very much.
 
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Good & true post Jada so what is your idea about the existance of a trinitarian satanic existance? I think its Hogwash like Phil said its giving Godly attributes to satan that are unjustified.
I don't think it is so much about giving godly attributes to Satan as it is about noticing that there is a mimicking pattern. After all, that is what he does - deceive and masquerade as an angel of light. It shouldn't come as a surprise that Satan will try to substitute God with himself, Jesus with the anti-Christ, and I guess the Holy Spirit with the false prophet.
 
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1still_waters

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I don't think we need to go categorizing the tactics of FALSE the Devil uses. False is false. If it's false, don't try to categorize it in some new satanic-subheading with bullet points. Just call it false and move on in the truth. :D
 
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I don't think we need to go categorizing the tactics of FALSE the Devil uses. False is false. If it's false, don't try to categorize it in some new satanic-subheading with bullet points. Just call it false and move on in the truth. :D
There is nothing wrong with categorizing. If you are uncomfortable with taking a close look at what tactics the enemy uses, then by all means, don't. But that doesn't make it wrong for anyone else to do. :)
 
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Good & true post Jada so what is your idea about the existance of a trinitarian satanic existance? I think its Hogwash like Phil said its giving Godly attributes to satan that are unjustified.
Hi imoss, i believe the devil has tried to copy God in everyway, setting up his evil kingdom like God's own. When u read Revelation it speaks of the dragon, the beast/ harlot and her daughters. Even though the devil has done that, i dont think we should compare his evil kingdom to God's kingdom. he wants us to size him up beside God and regardless of what he tries he will never be God or like God and we should look at it the same way, know his operations but dont compare him to our God.

This bothers me though, how comes most of us wont wear/use a sign that shows that we are racist or gay or a terrorist, but when it comes on to signs that are labeled 'demonic signs' we say that once we dont believe in it, it means nothing and so we can wear/use those signs. When u dont know its a different thing but once u find out that what u are wearing/using pledges any form of allegiance to our enemy the devil, then we should get rid of it as quickly as possible.

I saw myself as a hypocrite too and i am still trying to get better with God daily. I am happy you are listening to the Holy Spirit and have changed your life so that you are closer to God. Remember that the battle has already been won and we just need to overcome this world, so hang on tight to our God and Saviour Jesus Christ.
 
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forgivenandloved

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You are wrong about that forgiven, absolutely wrong... If its not satanic thats fine, but if it is, why would someone allow themselves to be a tool used by satan?. If its not satanic and is something other than what others have posted then by all means defend it. I would not have a pentagram as my avatar lest I be received by my brothers & sisters in the Lord as a witch. Perhaps the other posts were inaccurate assessment of his avatar. If this is the case by all means state it. But never ever be deceived in thinking that if we take on satanic imagry that we are not effected by this. This realm is REAL.

okay thats understandable
 
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You are wrong about that forgiven, absolutely wrong... If its not satanic thats fine, but if it is, why would someone allow themselves to be a tool used by satan?. If its not satanic and is something other than what others have posted then by all means defend it. I would not have a pentagram as my avatar lest I be received by my brothers & sisters in the Lord as a witch. Perhaps the other posts were inaccurate assessment of his avatar. If this is the case by all means state it. But never ever be deceived in thinking that if we take on satanic imagry that we are not effected by this. This realm is REAL.
Thats a good point but you do realize that the pentagram first stood for the 5 wounds of jesus or something along the lines and THEN was misinterpreted to be witchcraft and thats only if the pentagram is flipped upside down.
 
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This is what the deceiver would have you believe that you would feel its ok to associate yourself with a witchcraft symbol. Do not be deceived by the great deceiver. Greater is He who is in you than satan and I'm certain one day you too will have a conviction to these matters just as I have of late. God bless you I mean no ill will.
 
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To anyone doubting the "antitrinity"
First, definitions....lets be a little more specific: Trinity refers to any grouping of three, thus the three pens I have on my desk are a trinity. The Father, Son and Spirit are Triune...Three in one Tri=3, Une= one. That being defined, there is an opposing trinity referred to in Revelation. The Dragon...chapter 12, identified as Satan. The Beast from the Sea, who had a mortal wound that was healed...that's the Antichrist, thats ch.13, and in the latter half of Chap.13 is the Beast from the Earth, who is given power to perform miracles on the behalf of the first beast to make the inhabitants of the earth worship him, commonly referred to as the False Prophet. A group of three, opposing God, thus a trinity.
Now, as far as Greys avatar, that is a Triquetra, originally used as filler artwork, later used to represent, you guessed it...the Triune nature of God.It has been adopted by multiple belief systems in centuries past, but now it has been usurped by Christians. It bears a simplified resemblance to a rounded version of the Scutum Fidei, or Shield of the Trinity, which is probably why it has been grabbed and used.
 
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Chivalri79

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What about what pleases the Lord? does this not matter? & I'm curious about the bible that has this (or so some have said...)
New King James published byThomas Nelson, also multiple churches stained glass, vestments, etc., etc.,
 
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1still_waters

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Yup I've seen this image on many Christian things. From what I've seen from the OP on this forum, I don't think he's here to promote the devil by posting that pic.
 
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cool. thanks guys & my apologies to you grey as I accepted what was posted with no real knowledge of my own.
 
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No need to apologize...
 
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I believe ole Pete had it right when he said...satan, antichrist, and the false prophet = unholy trinity
 
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