healing according to Joseph prince, please do explain

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just a quick observation. where does this guy come up with stuff like this healing through communion ?? according to jp, were healed physically through communion and receiving that healing by grace......umm.....yeah this right here is such an indicator of how a person can get popular and then make up something and teach it to his followers and they buy it....

there are no scriptures that say this, or even indicate it. according to Gods word those gifted with great faith are to lay hands on the sick person for healing. I really cant understand how folks who know anything about the bible buy into this dude. if I'm wrong here lol please do explain how taking communion and claiming I'm healed, heals anyone according to scripture??? would hate to think I missed these scriptures, but pretty confident there are none which even indicate or suggest this. I guess it falls in line with all by grace and laying hands on another is works of the flesh or something. the doctrine of this guy and many springing up like him..........be careful and always study for you instead of just believing another person. communion is a wonderful spiritual principle that we all should participate in worthily.......but I'm gonna go on a limb and say jp made this one up to sell books. don't think healing is promised through taking communion.
 

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Oh oh! . . ...
 
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Why don't you write the ministry an email and ask them whatever your questions are. Then you can hear it from the "horse's mouth" yourself? It seems like the honorable thing to do if you have a question about a teaching from a minister.

That way the answer can not be "twisted" to make it appear it's something else as it will come directly from them. No chance for a false witness that way unless people change what is being said by them.

I wish you well...tell us what they have said to you.
 
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I couldn't see where he got that until I read his writings on the subject (which I suggest you also do before you go around publicly faulting him)

I don't happen to agree with him, but now I know he legitimately feels he got it straight from Scripture........... Just the same way many of you reading this believe Scripture says you will get sick and die if you don't take Communion "Worthily." (Something else I do not agree with.)
 
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I couldn't see where he got that until I read his writings on the subject (which I suggest you also do before you go around publicly faulting him)

I don't happen to agree with him, but now I know he legitimately feels he got it straight from Scripture........... Just the same way many of you reading this believe Scripture says you will get sick and die if you don't take Communion "Worthily." (Something else I do not agree with.)

oh I listened to his sermon that was enough, and even before that, I know Gods word on the subject which is actually what is "faulting" his misteachings, yes, "s". dudes a deceiver, not my fault I recognize it.
 
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Why don't you write the ministry an email and ask them whatever your questions are. Then you can hear it from the "horse's mouth" yourself? It seems like the honorable thing to do if you have a question about a teaching from a minister.

That way the answer can not be "twisted" to make it appear it's something else as it will come directly from them. No chance for a false witness that way unless people change what is being said by them.

I wish you well...tell us what they have said to you.

honestly bruce I don't even read your comments anymore. I already have been in about 14 circles with you...taking communion is not a biblical teaching on healing. this is just simply another example of His ideas " supported" by trying to make scriptures mean something they don't mean, to sell his "revolution" of Gods word, or in other words to sell massive books. he teaches nearly nothing about loving others, which is the gospel. hes a deceiver, spreads deception, omits The truth. cant help it that I see through Him, gift from God in my eyes to recognize false teachers tho so not really sorry for it....its what Christians are suppose to do. recognize the spirits, test their truth against the truth of Christ........jps gospel comes up short, its a misleading doctrine. this is simply 1 example of it.

but out of respect u should know I don't even read your comments on the subject of obedience to Jesus, already know what u write before you write it done it for months no interest in the ongoing debate with you

be well tho and God Loves you
 

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He probably got it from the Scriptures that say people were sick and even dying from not taking communion worthily.
 
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Who shall we skewer today....??? let's see..., how bout Fred from Hillsdale?!! He went up front in church today and he has an odd idea about how he got healed., maybe he would be a good subject for a good roasting debate amongst us today !? ...

OORRR maybe Heidi from German town!?? she says she believes in the tongues gift for today and seems to be very outspoken about it., we all know she has had problems with her marriage in the past., maybe she is just looking for attention? She might be a good roasting candidate also? humm.., let me see....

OH OH.,., wait., there is that new guy who no one knows who just moved in from California and he IS totally odd. We could all put our notes together about him and what each of us have either heard about him or observed from seeing him attend church on Sunday., and then we could see what we come up with and if he should be roasted tonight?


Oh my my my., there are soooooo many many ways of skewering., roasting., broiling, boiling and baking another brother or sister in Christ., there is just no ONE way to adequately do the deed justice!!!!!!

Soooooooo many people and sooooooooo much time!!

 

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Who shall we skewer today....??? let's see..., how bout Fred from Hillsdale?!! He went up front in church today and he has an odd idea about how he got healed., maybe he would be a good subject for a good roasting debate amongst us today !? ...

OORRR maybe Heidi from German town!?? she says she believes in the tongues gift for today and seems to be very outspoken about it., we all know she has had problems with her marriage in the past., maybe she is just looking for attention? She might be a good roasting candidate also? humm.., let me see....

OH OH.,., wait., there is that new guy who no one knows who just moved in from California and he IS totally odd. We could all put our notes together about him and what each of us have either heard about him or observed from seeing him attend church on Sunday., and then we could see what we come up with and if he should be roasted tonight?


Oh my my my., there are soooooo many many ways of skewering., roasting., broiling, boiling and baking another brother or sister in Christ., there is just no ONE way to adequately do the deed justice!!!!!!

Soooooooo many people and sooooooooo much time!!


I love you, LadyLynn, but you have missed the point of this thread. The OP is not talking about church members that people wrongly gossip or slander. I think the OP is talking about a preacher and prophet and discerning one area where he feels that person is Scripturally wrong.

However, the OP would have been improved if he had actually posted the relevant verses.

Joseph Prince claims to be a teacher, and teachers are judged to higher standards, than regular church members.

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Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness." James 3:1
 
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Why don't you write the ministry an email and ask them whatever your questions are. Then you can hear it from the "horse's mouth" yourself? It seems like the honorable thing to do if you have a question about a teaching from a minister.

That way the answer can not be "twisted" to make it appear it's something else as it will come directly from them. No chance for a false witness that way unless people change what is being said by them.

I wish you well...tell us what they have said to you.


I have written to JP, and proved that his teaching are wrong, But he never responds.
He's afraid to discus the truth, because he knows the truth will prove him wrong.
 
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just a quick observation. where does this guy come up with stuff like this healing through communion ?? according to jp, were healed physically through communion and receiving that healing by grace......umm.....yeah this right here is such an indicator of how a person can get popular and then make up something and teach it to his followers and they buy it....

there are no scriptures that say this, or even indicate it. according to Gods word those gifted with great faith are to lay hands on the sick person for healing. I really cant understand how folks who know anything about the bible buy into this dude. if I'm wrong here lol please do explain how taking communion and claiming I'm healed, heals anyone according to scripture??? would hate to think I missed these scriptures, but pretty confident there are none which even indicate or suggest this. I guess it falls in line with all by grace and laying hands on another is works of the flesh or something. the doctrine of this guy and many springing up like him..........be careful and always study for you instead of just believing another person. communion is a wonderful spiritual principle that we all should participate in worthily.......but I'm gonna go on a limb and say jp made this one up to sell books. don't think healing is promised through taking communion.


It's amazing how ALL followers 1000s of them, And they are ALL Biblically ignorant.
 
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just a quick observation. where does this guy come up with stuff like this healing through communion ?? according to jp, were healed physically through communion and receiving that healing by grace......umm.....yeah this right here is such an indicator of how a person can get popular and then make up something and teach it to his followers and they buy it....

there are no scriptures that say this, or even indicate it. according to Gods word those gifted with great faith are to lay hands on the sick person for healing. I really cant understand how folks who know anything about the bible buy into this dude. if I'm wrong here lol please do explain how taking communion and claiming I'm healed, heals anyone according to scripture??? would hate to think I missed these scriptures, but pretty confident there are none which even indicate or suggest this. I guess it falls in line with all by grace and laying hands on another is works of the flesh or something. the doctrine of this guy and many springing up like him..........be careful and always study for you instead of just believing another person. communion is a wonderful spiritual principle that we all should participate in worthily.......but I'm gonna go on a limb and say jp made this one up to sell books. don't think healing is promised through taking communion.


Healing comes by Faith in the Biblical healing scriptures, and acting on them.
We do need to discern that the body of Jesus was whipped open for our healing, and faith in that knowledge can produce faith for healing, But we don't need to have Holy Communion to discern Jesus body and be healed.
 
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And I love you back Angela :) and have a good respect for you as a sister in Christ even though we are so different in our beliefs about certain teachings and gifts in the Bible for today. We still have managed to gracefully avoid trying to persuade each other of our personal Biblical convictions and beliefs.
And yet we both strongly post here freely about our beliefs and have existed somewhat together yet apart in some ways.

I don't know the OP or his intentions but he has made a quick observation here. I've listened to JP for a long time and my observations are not quick. I could answer this question he asks about healing and communion but to what end? I've observed people here to write long posts over and over about JP and what he says about grace only to have the answer ignored and people go right on believing exactly the same way as if no explanation was given.

Same with personal answers about the grace message and what is called the gospel of grace. Many here can go on and on writing post after post., posting link after link and those who don't see it or agree with the explanation will keep on disagreeing and disregarding much of what was posted. In some matters people will be on different sides of a fence. And that is ok.

Sharing should be done with the end result in our sights to be a harmonious allowance to agree to disagree if we can't agree with each other's Biblical interpretation on certain subjects. Not to skewer each other. That is what ends up happening anyway if people do what you and I do not do Angela. We do not put up our differences and fry the other in our own oil. We love each other as sisters in Christ and agree to disagree. Knowing we each have very strong life changing experiences that brought us to our convictions and beliefs so we do not want to hurt each other by trying to force feed our convictions.

So in seeing how these disagreements have gone on here I know unless there is a willingness to do as you and I did., this thread will just be a mess. As far as teachers and preachers being judged by a higher standard., I see God is the One who is able to do the judging with the greater strictness. And He does the judging with each of us too. It's not each of us that does the judging of each other. Just like you and I. I would not judge your heart on matters and then post my thoughts about you.


just a quick observation. where does this guy come up with stuff like this healing through communion ?? according to jp, were healed physically through communion and receiving that healing by grace......umm.....yeah this right here is such an indicator of how a person can get popular and then make up something and teach it to his followers and they buy it....

there are no scriptures that say this, or even indicate it. according to Gods word those gifted with great faith are to lay hands on the sick person for healing. I really cant understand how folks who know anything about the bible buy into this dude. if I'm wrong here lol please do explain how taking communion and claiming I'm healed, heals anyone according to scripture??? would hate to think I missed these scriptures, but pretty confident there are none which even indicate or suggest this. I guess it falls in line with all by grace and laying hands on another is works of the flesh or something. the doctrine of this guy and many springing up like him..........be careful and always study for you instead of just believing another person. communion is a wonderful spiritual principle that we all should participate in worthily.......but I'm gonna go on a limb and say jp made this one up to sell books. don't think healing is promised through taking communion.

And yet., the OP says he is going out on a limb to say JP made this one up to sell books. (?????) What kind of judgment is that for instance? It's just an opinion that has no foundation since the OP doesn't know JP and his heart motivations about his convictions and why he writes books.

Shouldn't we avoid this sort of thing from the get go?

 
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honestly bruce I don't even read your comments anymore. I already have been in about 14 circles with you...taking communion is not a biblical teaching on healing. this is just simply another example of His ideas " supported" by trying to make scriptures mean something they don't mean, to sell his "revolution" of Gods word, or in other words to sell massive books. he teaches nearly nothing about loving others, which is the gospel. hes a deceiver, spreads deception, omits The truth. cant help it that I see through Him, gift from God in my eyes to recognize false teachers tho so not really sorry for it....its what Christians are suppose to do. recognize the spirits, test their truth against the truth of Christ........jps gospel comes up short, its a misleading doctrine. this is simply 1 example of it.

but out of respect u should know I don't even read your comments on the subject of obedience to Jesus, already know what u write before you write it done it for months no interest in the ongoing debate with you

be well tho and God Loves you
That's mostly nonsense Jason fueled by malice and slander by those that believe something different then what someone else does on a subject but you are entitled to your own opinion just like everyone else in the body of Christ. Have a great day! Walk in peace and may His grace fill your life to produce an honorable life in Him.
 
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I have written to JP, and proved that his teaching are wrong, But he never responds.
He's afraid to discus the truth, because he knows the truth will prove him wrong.
Well my friend, judging from the way you have treated people here in CC that have a different opinion then you do - no matter what the subject has been. If you acted like that in an email to anyone - I'm sure they would have nothing to do with you.
 
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Well my friend, judging from the way you have treated people here in CC that have a different opinion then you do - no matter what the subject has been. If you acted like that in an email to anyone - I'm sure they would have nothing to do with you.

They have nothing to do with me, Because they know the Bible will prove then wrong,
[And they know I teach the Biblical truths].

You should know, because you couldn't answer a Biblical question without admitting your wrong.
 

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They have nothing to do with me, Because they know the Bible will prove then wrong,
[And they know I teach the Biblical truths].

You should know, because you couldn't answer a Biblical question without admitting your wrong.
this is laughable. this from a dude who seriously thinks that God cares how a person dresses. when you say stuff like this, it makes your Biblical " truths" look real shaky.
 
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this is laughable. this from a dude who seriously thinks that God cares how a person dresses. when you say stuff like this, it makes your Biblical " truths" look real shaky.


Dressing smart for God, Shows a respect for Him. Those same scruffy dressers will dress smart when the go to a worldly meeting or meet someone important, But you watch them when it comes to Church, Their attitude is,
[Oh, It's only God].
 
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honestly bruce I don't even read your comments anymore. I already have been in about 14 circles with you...taking communion is not a biblical teaching on healing. this is just simply another example of His ideas " supported" by trying to make scriptures mean something they don't mean, to sell his "revolution" of Gods word, or in other words to sell massive books. he teaches nearly nothing about loving others, which is the gospel. hes a deceiver, spreads deception, omits The truth. cant help it that I see through Him, gift from God in my eyes to recognize false teachers tho so not really sorry for it....its what Christians are suppose to do. recognize the spirits, test their truth against the truth of Christ........jps gospel comes up short, its a misleading doctrine. this is simply 1 example of it.

but out of respect u should know I don't even read your comments on the subject of obedience to Jesus, already know what u write before you write it done it for months no interest in the ongoing debate with you

be well tho and God Loves you
Probably explains why you seem to know so little. LOL
 
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oh I listened to his sermon that was enough, and even before that, I know Gods word on the subject which is actually what is "faulting" his misteachings, yes, "s". dudes a deceiver, not my fault I recognize it.
all righty then

would you expect God to fault you on ONE thing you said that was 'wrong' and turn His back on you?

cause that is what you are telling us your method of judgement consists of

BTW, I hardly listen to Joseph Prince but once in a while, so please just consider my words as good advice and not me taking sides