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pottersclay

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Well here it is something that's been in this old thought machine for sometime now who ate the rest of the strawberry shortcake?....ooops wrong one.
But seriously I've wrestled with this for a while now so ill ask.

If knowing all you know of God and his word you found yourself back in time to the courtyard where the trail of Jesus was held, what would your reply be? To release him or to crucify him. Knowing full well what both would mean.

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BenFTW

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It seems to be a matter of doing what Peter did, if one were to intervene. Raising our voice would be like Peter raising his sword. One might choose silence, and witness God's love in present action. Jesus laying down His life for me. I would not intervene as it was God's will and plan of redemption for mankind. I think silence is the best choice and to let history play out as God intended for that moment. No one truly dictated His death, He surrendered His life.
 
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"Crucify him" would be condoning murder, "Release him" would be defying God. So I agree that "silence" would be the only practical response.
 
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Agree with the other two responses silence would be the best option. But I wonder how many of us would bend to peer pressure and betray Him and shout crucify? Peter was unable to tell the truth at that time.
 
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pottersclay

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To tell you the truth I never considered to keep silent. In my younger years I used to imagine being at the trail and crucifixion and said it would not bother me knowing he would rise again. Guess I have mellowed in the years or something because I can't even watch the passion of the Christ. I have been realizing how horrific his day was. The power of the gospel is so under estimated in the church today in my opinion if one would look at the cost truly one would see it's power. As Paul said I preach Christ crucified.

Can you imagine.

In one day Jesus took the wrath of God in full fury for You and I, no holds bared no mercy given, refusing to allow death his only relief to happen until the perfect time.
To add to this he also took the full fury of Satan trying all he could do to make it a mockery to make it of no power.
Then allowing human hands to have their way with him again with no mercy no regard to being humane .
All of that to rise again on the third day as if it were nothing? Greeting and teaching again I'm sure he had a smile.

How anyone could deny or underestimate the love of Christ and the power of the gospel is mind blowing to say the least.

How horrible and repulsive it would seem but knowing there was no other way....knowing that he had come for this one moment and being silent would only add to the uncertainty of God's plan well again....i ask.......what would your reply be?
 
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Jesus told His apostles that scriptures must be fulfilled, that God's will must be done.

He said He must die and rise again and He said the sheep would be scattered.

The apostles who submitted to God's will and allowed themselves to be scattered were spared the trial.

The apostle who defied that scriptural prophecy, God's will, landed himself a world of hurt - denying Christ three times.
 
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pottersclay

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Agree with the other two responses silence would be the best option. But I wonder how many of us would bend to peer pressure and betray Him and shout crucify? Peter was unable to tell the truth at that time.[/QUOTE.

Do you think that replying crucify him is betraying him please explain
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pottersclay said:
Well here it is something that's been in this old thought machine for sometime now who ate the rest of the strawberry shortcake?....ooops wrong one.
But seriously I've wrestled with this for a while now so ill ask.

If knowing all you know of God and his word you found yourself back in time to the courtyard where the trail of Jesus was held, what would your reply be? To release him or to crucify him. Knowing full well what both would mean.

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Knowing the end result, for the sake of spiritual self-preservation, I would be forced to call for his crucifixion.
 
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Actually i would have a ton of questions i would love to talk over with Him! Imagine talking to God in the flesh! Asking Him all about everything in the Bible!

This i would never pass up!
 
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pottersclay

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oldhermit said:
Knowing the end result, for the sake of spiritual self-preservation, I would be forced to call for his crucifixion.
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Now that's faith brother I need to tend to this thread I started but you just blessed my heart.
 
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for whatever reason you decided to post such a question, I find it very offensive -
what gall if one is a proclaiming Christian would say such a thing to their
brothers and sisters in Christ!?!!?
 
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pottersclay

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Well I just checked the stats of this thread almost 100views 9 replys and 3 of them were to be silent........hmmmm.

To be silent and not to witness to the events about to take place that you say you know and believe? So say crucify him and see that he will rise in three days, that in the same day the earth shall shake the sky will darken the temple Vail shall be torn, the dead will walk. Just be silent and let the events un fold. I have to ask what would hold you back from saying anything? Fear? Sorrow?
 
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As was stated earlier by oldhermit..... knowing what I know NOW, knowing that Jesus willingly went to the cross to be the once and forever sacrifice for us, I would call for crucifixion. And I'm sure I would weep bitterly when it was carried out.

It was God's plan, and for us to try to circumvent that...?
 
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oldethennew said:
for whatever reason you decided to post such a question, I find it very offensive -
what gall if one is a proclaiming Christian would say such a thing to their
brothers and sisters in Christ!?!!?
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Why do you find this offensive?
 
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My first thought is crucify Him because knowing His purpose but remaining silent sounds like a good option. On the flip side, I always thought if I were one of those people without the knowledge, I'd be one condoning His murder.
 
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pottersclay said:
Well I just checked the stats of this thread almost 100views 9 replys and 3 of them were to be silent........hmmmm.

To be silent and not to witness to the events about to take place that you say you know and believe? So say crucify him and see that he will rise in three days, that in the same day the earth shall shake the sky will darken the temple Vail shall be torn, the dead will walk. Just be silent and let the events un fold. I have to ask what would hold you back from saying anything? Fear? Sorrow?
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There is no need to speak as God so ordained the events in His sovereignty to have a crowd that would choose death. Do you think if God needed people in that crowd to sway the decision He would not have told the disciples to speak up? Silence is the best option because God's will already dictated that moment in time. Some prophecy is a foretelling of the future but other prophecies are ones of which the Lord makes happen (divine intervention). This may be such a case, that the right people were present of which the Lord knew their heart that they would crucify Christ.

The question itself is a rather selfish question, one of self-preservation. The problem is, no one took Jesus' life. He gave it. He sacrificed Himself, willingly. The question questions God's sovereignty, in actuality. It also, in some way, misses the point. To speak up, even knowing the Gospel, and call for His crucifixion one might just feel the burden Judas felt. He committed suicide because his conscience could not bare it. Innocent blood on his hands.

One might think in knowing the Gospel how easy it would be to call for Jesus' crucifixion, but don't forget you know of His great love and character. You know of all that He stands for. How easy can it be to kill love itself? Even knowing Love has decided to sacrifice itself? So pure, so holy. Is it truly such an easy decision? Jesus asked the Lord if there was another way, for the cup to pass. Could you stare Him in the eyes and see His anguish and so easily call for His death and suffering?

Silence is the better option because it acknowledges God's sovereignty.
 
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KenAllan said:
Actually i would have a ton of questions i would love to talk over with Him! Imagine talking to God in the flesh! Asking Him all about everything in the Bible!

This i would never pass up!
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Or you could fellowship with the Holy Spirit, today. :) lol
 
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pottersclay said:
HS said:
Agree with the other two responses silence would be the best option. But I wonder how many of us would bend to peer pressure and betray Him and shout crucify? Peter was unable to tell the truth at that time.[/QUOTE.

Do you think that replying crucify him is betraying him please explain
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I believe if we shouted crucify wewould be considered accomplices to the murder of Jesus. I feel it isbacked up by Matthew 26:23 and 24.
“Jesus replied, “The one who hasdipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. The Son
of Man will go just as it is writtenabout him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It
would be better for him if he had notbeen born.”
The fact it was necessary for Judas tobetray Jesus but he was not praised or awarded but condemned for it,speaks to me that it would the same if we betrayed Him by joining inwith the crowd and saying crucify.
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BenFTW said:
There is no need to speak as God so ordained the events in His sovereignty to have a crowd that would choose death. Do you think if God needed people in that crowd to sway the decision He would not have told the disciples to speak up? Silence is the best option because God's will already dictated that moment in time. Some prophecy is a foretelling of the future but other prophecies are ones of which the Lord makes happen (divine intervention). This may be such a case, that the right people were present of which the Lord knew their heart that they would crucify Christ.

The question itself is a rather selfish question, one of self-preservation. The problem is, no one took Jesus' life. He gave it. He sacrificed Himself, willingly. The question questions God's sovereignty, in actuality. It also, in some way, misses the point. To speak up, even knowing the Gospel, and call for His crucifixion one might just feel the burden Judas felt. He committed suicide because his conscience could not bare it. Innocent blood on his hands.

One might think in knowing the Gospel how easy it would be to call for Jesus' crucifixion, but don't forget you know of His great love and character. You know of all that He stands for. How easy can it be to kill love itself? Even knowing Love has decided to sacrifice itself? So pure, so holy. Is it truly such an easy decision? Jesus asked the Lord if there was another way, for the cup to pass. Could you stare Him in the eyes and see His anguish and so easily call for His death and suffering?

Silence is the better option because it acknowledges God's sovereignty.
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Like Ben says, Christ was destined for the cross. It wouldn't have mattered what I said.
 
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pottersclay

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I know I know I know.....this is awkward knowing what we know but that moral compass comes into play we feel it's a moot point God is in control anyway so why say anything. Point being we were not called to be silent we were called to be a witness.
To say crucify him is not betraying him for Jesus even said for this purpose he was born, he even told the disciples about his death and what it would entail.
Saints as the return of our Lord draws near times will not get better at least not for us. You are going to be put in awkward situations your moral compass will sound a alarm . If you believe that the gospel s are true then what about the rest of the story how convinced are you? Are you willing to bet your life on it Jesus did. Are you willing to bet your kids lives on it? God does.
I am not posting to cast judgement in anyway towards anyone here, in fact these are my convictions. I love the curch, I love the saints, but I feel we have become a bit lazy as a body. I don't know maybe it's just me. I want to see and feel the fire again.
In reference to the o.p. I would say crucify him for that is our only hope. I would try to take the opportunity to witness on what the day would bring, and why. Saints may we never forget the agony of the cross which our Lord endured for us may we find it as a resting place in his finished work and a starting place for ours.
 
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