Angels Chained in Hell

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WarriorForChrist

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So in the below verses it talks about Angels bring chained in hell until Judgement. Now are these separate angels from the fall or are the angels that fell chained and not roaming? Never really studied these two verses so was just curious. I gave NLT and NASB translations (just because I am nice like that )


Jude 1:6 (NLT)

[SUP]6 [/SUP] And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them securely chained in prisons of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment.

Jude 1:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,

2 Peter 2:4 (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell, in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the day of judgment.

2 Peter 2:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
 

Ahwatukee

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So in the below verses it talks about Angels bring chained in hell until Judgement. Now are these separate angels from the fall or are the angels that fell chained and not roaming? Never really studied these two verses so was just curious. I gave NLT and NASB translations (just because I am nice like that )


Jude 1:6 (NLT)

[SUP]6 [/SUP] And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them securely chained in prisons of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment.

Jude 1:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day,

2 Peter 2:4 (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For God did not spare even the angels who sinned. He threw them into hell, in gloomy pits of darkness, where they are being held until the day of judgment.

2 Peter 2:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
Good day WarriorForChrist,

I have always believed that the angels that these two scriptures are speaking about who sinned, is referring to those angels that took for themselves wives from the daughters of mankind (Gen.6:1-2) and thereby defiling themselves. The prophecies of Enoch goes into great detail about these angels, also called "the watchers of heaven," their number being two hundred. In 2 Peter 2:4 these angels are put into a chains of darkness in a place called Tartartus/Tartaroo. This is just my own personal belief regarding this issue.
 
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WarriorForChrist

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Good day WarriorForChrist,

I have always believed that the angels that these two scriptures are speaking about who sinned, is referring to those angels that took for themselves wives from the daughters of mankind (Gen.6:1-2) and thereby defiling themselves. The prophecies of Enoch goes into great detail about these angels, also called "the watchers of heaven," their number being two hundred. In 2 Peter 2:4 these angels are put into a chains of darkness in a place called Tartartus/Tartaroo. This is just my own personal belief regarding this issue.
I have heard this before. So these would be different angels than the ones that fell?
 

trofimus

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I would assume the other angels are 1/3 of the angelic host that fell with Satan.
There is only one place about it in Revelation... and how do we know these angels are different from the first ones?

Well, even the interpretation (stars are angels) is just a thought, not a fact....
 

Ahwatukee

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I have heard this before. So these would be different angels than the ones that fell?
No, they were apart of the original angels that fell, i.e. associated with Satan. But according to Enoch, these angels not only had sexual relations with women, but they also taught things to mankind that they should not have disclosed such as, sorcery, divination, the dividing of roots and trees (?), the motion of the moon and stars (astrology), how to make weapons of war, and the beautifying of the eyebrows, just to name a few. It was most likely these things combined that got them put into Tartaroo. Not to mention their offspring, which were giants.

I have a copy of what is called "Ethiopic Enoch" and it goes into much detail about those angels who sinned by taking wives and also the holy angels that Enoch was with and also where they took him. It mentions Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Noah, the flood and much more. Ethiopic Enoch was actually apart of the scriptures up until the third century and Jude quotes from it:

"Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his saints to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”