Interesting thing about the Sabbath...

prove-all · Jul 25, 2016

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue,
the GENTILES BEGGED that these words might
be preached to them the NEXT SABBATH.

Here was the perfict time to tell gential converts to just come back tommorow,
very easy Paul could have preached the next day on sunday ,but what did he do?

44And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

p_rehbein · Jul 25, 2016

prove-all said:

That does not prove or disprove anything other than showing that when he said he strove to be all things to all people, he actually did!

It does not prove that those who choose to worship on Sunday are wrong, and unGodly, disobedient people....don't know if you meant it to or not.......just saying

prove-all · Jul 25, 2016

p_rehbein said:

if he strove to be all things to all people,
why not just preach to willing gentials the next day?
why did he wait the whole week, does not make sence
to do this if the Sabbath was taken away and now sunday.

p_rehbein · Jul 25, 2016

prove-all said:

He did preach on Sundays. There are Scriptures that teach that the church met on the first day of the week. The first day of the week is, wait............wait............wait for it! SUNDAY.

Yeah, I know, unless someone is trying to prove that Sunday worship is unBiblical, then they do all they can to prove that Saturday is the first day of the week.............but, IT AIN'T.

I don't care what day people want to set aside to worship God on.........I do care when the Saturday Sabbath Only folks condemn anyone who disagrees with them.

fredoheaven · Jul 25, 2016

disciplemike said:

Just wanted to express my thoughts here. No I am not a "Sabbath keeper" but the scriptures simply saying that those who rest are those who are refreshed!

God bless

prove-all · Jul 25, 2016

p_rehbein said:

He did preach on Sundays. There are Scriptures that teach that the church met on the first day of the week. The first day of the week is, wait............wait............wait for it! SUNDAY.

Yeah, I know, unless someone is trying to prove that Sunday worship is unBiblical, then they do all they can to prove that Saturday is the first day of the week.............but, IT AIN'T.

I don't care what day people want to set aside to worship God on.........I do care when the Saturday Sabbath Only folks condemn anyone who disagrees with them.

there is no bible verse that says the church meet on sunday morning for worship

p_rehbein · Jul 25, 2016

[h=1]Romans
14[/h]
1[FONT=&quot] .) Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.[/FONT]
2[FONT=&quot] .) For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.[/FONT]
3[FONT=&quot] .) Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.[/FONT]
4[FONT=&quot] .) Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.[/FONT]
5[FONT=&quot] .) One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.[/FONT]
6[FONT=&quot] .) He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.[/FONT]
7[FONT=&quot] .) For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.[/FONT]
8[FONT=&quot] .) For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.[/FONT]
9[FONT=&quot] .) For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.[/FONT]
10[FONT=&quot] .) But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.[/FONT]
11[FONT=&quot] .) For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.[/FONT]
12[FONT=&quot] .) So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.[/FONT]
13[FONT=&quot] .) Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.[/FONT]
14[FONT=&quot] .) I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.[/FONT]
15[FONT=&quot] .) But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.[/FONT]
16[FONT=&quot] .) Let not then your good be evil spoken of:[/FONT]
17[FONT=&quot] .) For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.[/FONT]
18[FONT=&quot] .) For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.[/FONT]
19[FONT=&quot] .) Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.[/FONT]
20[FONT=&quot] .) For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.[/FONT]
21[FONT=&quot] .) It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.[/FONT]
22[FONT=&quot] .) Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.[/FONT]
23[FONT=&quot] .) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.[/FONT]

p_rehbein · Jul 25, 2016

Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came...

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

John 20:19 On the evening of that first day of the...

Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 .) And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the LORD.
21 .) Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 .) And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK......

Paul did it............Jesus did it..........good enough for me!

p_rehbein · Jul 25, 2016

Mark 2:23) And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
24 .) And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
25 .) And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
26 .) How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
27 .) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 .) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Matthew
12

1 .) At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
2 .) But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
3 .) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
4 .) How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?
5 .) Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
6 .) But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple.
7 .) But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
8 .) For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Hmm.............appears Jesus is in a whole lotta trouble with some of the folks here huh?

prove-all · Jul 25, 2016

p_rehbein said:

Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came...

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

John 20:19 On the evening of that first day of the...

Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 .) And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the LORD.
21 .) Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 .) And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK......

Paul did it............Jesus did it..........good enough for me!

no not one of those verses is a sunday sunrise[or morning] service.

do you know the day started at dark back then?

every verse [8]with the phrase first day of the week is a work day

posthuman · Jul 26, 2016

prove-all said:

read the next verse.

When the congregation was dismissed, many of the Jews and devout converts to Judaism followed Paul and Barnabas, who talked with them and urged them to continue in the grace of God.

posthuman · Jul 26, 2016

prove-all said:

and this is the message they heard that they were so eager to hear more of --

Therefore, my friends, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.
(Acts 13:28-39)

if they had met every second tuesday, they would have asked Paul to come back in two weeks. he went to where they were, and they hoped he would return to where they were. and some were not able to wait, but followed them out of the synagogue to hear more right away. do you imagine those went away as soon as the sun went down that day, and waited 6 more days before doing anything else about what they had heard?

posthuman · Jul 26, 2016

here's an interesting thing about the sabbaths . .
their purpose!

Moreover, I gave them my Sabbaths, as a sign between me and them,
that they might know that I am the LORD who sanctifies them.
(Exodus 20:12)

they are a sign between Jah & ethnic Israel
the purpose is to teach them that Jah is the one who sanctifies

[HR][/HR]

now here's something interesting about Christ Jesus . .

All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
(Matthew 11:27-28)

Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
(Hebrews 10:11-14)

Jesus Christ is the One who reveals God to us.
Jesus Christ is the One who gives us rest.
Jesus Christ is the One who has sanctified us and who does sanctify us.
Jesus Christ sat down ((as to rest)) after finishing this work - but the priests under the Law never sat down; their work was never complete.

this is ((so much more than)) a sign ((in fact reality, rather than a sign)) for all who put their trust in Him -- both the ethnic Jew and the gentile.

((i think that's interesting))

disciplemike · Jul 26, 2016

PaulMack said:

Fortunately, you are not God.

disciplemike · Jul 26, 2016

Yet said:

What about someone living in the arctic circle? When the sun goes down does the sabbath begin? And it stays down for 6 months. Cant do no cooking for that time. Gonna get mighty hungry.

Not to mention all the verses saying 'unto Israel'. Just one as an example. Exodus 31:13. Speak you unto the children of Israel saying truly My sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations.

Can't find a verse anywhere where God rebuked a gentile for not keeping the jewish sabbath.

Tell the gentile believers to keep from meat offered to idols, don't be eating blood or anything strangled, and refrain from fornication, Acts 15:29

It is God's Sabbath. (Lev23)
It existed as a command long before there was a Jew.

garee · Jul 26, 2016

disciplemike said:

The kind below?

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure (parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.Heb 9:8 -10

The Sabbath is a carnal ordinance. The demonstration showed that in many ways.

Did not Christ demonstrate outwardly using sinful flesh to condemn sin in the flesh as the Son of God, through the flesh of the Son of man?

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God informs us that His flesh did not profit seeing it was used as a demonstration of pouring out His Spirit (the unseen work) that was finished as the lamb of God from the foundation of the world.

I don't think we enter the demonstration of the work but by faith the actual work that has been finished from the foundation of the world. Christ our Rock was struck by the Law of God once, not twice. That would be double jeopardy. The rest we do enter into is from the foundation, the unseen work of His faith.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.Heb 4:1

It is that rest from the foundation that we do enter in. Not the promised demonstration in which he said His temporal flesh did not profit as the actual unseen work of God's faith .

Yonah · Jul 26, 2016

ive heard this arctic circle argument before and it does not hold up, the time is the same, there is no less time in one day in different places the cycle in the heavens remains the same see Gen 1:14 what does the creator of the universe give commands that cannot be obeyed?

Vdp · Jul 26, 2016

You do know disciplemike if you even break one of the littlest Laws you have broken the Whole Law?

James 2:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

Even you cannot keep the Whole Law, even you fail and sin. So why are you trying to bring down the True Children of God to your level?

If you want to be Justified by trying to keep the Law then do it. But to tell others they must put themselves back under the Law just because you say so is a sin.

You may try to keep the Law but you have already failed completely in trying to keep the Law.

God made the Sabbath FOR US! He did not make US for the Sabbath.

This is what the Pharisees could not understand and which your eyes have been blinded to also.

disciplemike · Jul 26, 2016

Vdp said:

Howdy chief. If I break one sin, (and I have), then I am guilty of breaking them all. However, I do have a Savior. So does that mean I should be careful to not keep any commandments? Do you see how silly that sounds?

disciplemike · Jul 26, 2016

garee said:

hogwash. (with respect)

Interesting thing about the Sabbath...

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