Jesus and mary magdalene

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jaybird88

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Jesus was God come in the flesh.. He was not subject to sexual desires and thus would not seek a wife.. The offense caused by talk of Jesus being married to Mary Magdalene come because it is seen as an attack on the divinity of Christ.. Because if Jesus had carnal desires then Jesus was just a normal man.. And if Jesus was just a normal man then the Bible and Christianity are false and founded on lies..


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
where does Jesus teach this?
 

Magenta

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Really Magenta? That scripture has no bearing on the fact that Jesus was not married? In order for Jesus to have earthly descendants, he would have had to have been married and had children. That is what the scripture means. Amazing!
You need to learn how to read. And stop reading what isn't there into what is written. I see you cautioning people about that very thing but then you do it and often on very important issues, so you need to take your own advice. Not having descendants is not proof of not being married. Amazing? Yes, it is amazing that you need to be informed of such. What I said was that scripture does not say whether or not Jesus was married. Do you disagree or simply wish to express your superior attitude? It seems more of the latter and nothing given to support the former. Please show us the Scriptures that state Jesus was married if you wish to prove some point that I was wrong about. Thanks!
 
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jaybird88

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Exactly. The image of God being the groom and we being the bride is used also in the O.T. Only that in the OT, the bride, Israel, is presented as adulterous (harlot).
This relationship between God and His people is being re-used in the N.T. where the Church (the expanded Israel) is His bride. Saint Paul compares the marriage between a man and a woman with the covenant between Jesus Christ (the groom) and His church (the bride): the man must love the woman like Christ loved the Church. The covenant is seen as a marital alliance based on the sacrifice of Jesus Christ for His Church.
the union between us (followers of Jesus) and the the Lord Most High would be more of a heavenly union? not the same as a man and women of this world getting married. i agree the symbolism is still the same as both come together.
 

Magenta

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Jesus was God come in the flesh.. He was not subject to sexual desires and thus would not seek a wife.. The offense caused by talk of Jesus being married to Mary Magdalene come because it is seen as an attack on the divinity of Christ.. Because if Jesus had carnal desires then Jesus was just a normal man.. And if Jesus was just a normal man then the Bible and Christianity are false and founded on lies..
You have just contradicted a plain reading of Scripture. Heb. 4:15

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet he did not sin.
 

GuessWho

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not that. where does Jesus teach that to suggest He is married is an attack on His divinity?
Where does Jesus Christ show erotic inclination towards a woman? Perhaps you confuse Jesus Christ with Zeus. Zeus was indeed a god attracted by women and a god submitted to such carnal passions. To say the same about Jesus Christ is plain blasphemy AND an attack to his divinity. His divinity is not the same with Zeus "divinity".

Leave Jesus Christ out of cheap sexual intrigues, please... this stuff is for the consumers of mediocre litterature.
 

Magenta

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Where does Jesus Christ show erotic inclination towards a woman? Perhaps you confuse Jesus Christ with Zeus. Zeus was indeed a god attracted by women and a god submitted to such carnal passions. To say the same about Jesus Christ is plain blasphemy AND an attack to his divinity. His divinity is not the same with Zeus "divinity".

Leave Jesus Christ out of cheap sexual intrigues, please... this stuff is for the consumers of mediocre litterature.
Gosh you have such a dirty mind, as if people cannot marry for any other reason besides to satisfy their wanton lust. Perhaps read the end of the gospel of John again. Here I will give you a primer, from 21:25:

Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.




 
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jaybird88

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Where does Jesus Christ show erotic inclination towards a woman? Perhaps you confuse Jesus Christ with Zeus. Zeus was indeed a god attracted by women and a god submitted to such carnal passions. To say the same about Jesus Christ is plain blasphemy AND an attack to his divinity. His divinity is not the same with Zeus "divinity".

Leave Jesus Christ out of cheap sexual intrigues, please... this stuff is for the consumers of mediocre litterature.
i never said Jesus showed erotic inclination towards a woman. marriage is more than just "yippee i finally get to go have sex!!!" some believe its about having a family. if a man and women being together is so bad then wjy is it when they come together they make children. Jesus teaches many times on how beautiful and special children are, i know of no times He teaches such things are an attack on Him or His divinity.
 
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:hrmm: that is
wisdom of all that is holy
as the good spirits of nature itself
told this unto one of our brethren :rofl:
that when hitler told to german german people
that he is married to germany
thats the time of the great deception
although hitler is a human there was evil within him during that time
and consider the facts that before he became a dictator
he was a sakristan este
what we really meant is this
as it is written
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A sacristan is an officer charged with care of the sacristy, the church, and their contents. In ancient times, many duties of the sacristan were performed by the doorkeepers (ostiarii), and later by the treasurers and mansionarii.

. ... indeed a sacristan in the graven image of the the great deception

~;> by the way
almost every humans has their own beliefs
but what we consider is the truth
for the only begotten son of god our savior our lord
is the way the truth and the life
and after knowing that marriage is not only
something that is like having a desire in the flesh
(well thats what weve heard
about in that kind of things in this reality)
but also one of many ways to have a companion
in truth faith hope and love

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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:rofl: its their doctrine that is in stakes
not the divinity of our lord and saviour the only begotten son of god
and also
remember what happened unto those templar knights
 
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:haha: so what if im a former antichrist
i changed my ways of evil by cling to what is good and cannot lie

.. . . looks what happened unto those people who became boastful
after receiving the truth
they thought they could handle the truth when in the first place
its the truth that showed them to become a servant
and not to be great
as our brethren :smoke: told this unto all
as it is written
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Santiago: 4. 15. For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
16. But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
 
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:haha: so what if im a former antichrist
i changed my ways of evil by cling to what is good and cannot lie

.. . . looks what happened unto those people who became boastful
after receiving the truth
they thought they could handle the truth when in the first place
its the truth that showed them to become a servant
and not to be great
as our brethren :smoke: told this unto all
as it is written
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Santiago: 4. 15. For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
16. But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
:rofl: as it is written
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2 Corinto: 10. 12. For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
13. But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.
14. For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ:
15. Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly,
16. To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man's line of things made ready to our hand.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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:haha: indeed as it is written my brethre my brother
sisters and unto all indeed
 
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:haha: indeed as it is written my brethre my brother
sisters and unto all indeed
:rofl: so as it is written
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Exodo: 23. 20. Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
21. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
22. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
 
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:rofl: so as it is written
:read:
Exodo: 23. 20. Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
21. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
22. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
:haha: hey :rofl: cool man
you know now were brethrens of love
brothers of hope
sisters of faith
and servants and slaves unto all who wants to save their soul
for the
servant is not greater than his master
 
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:haha: hey :rofl: cool man
you know now were brethrens of love
brothers of hope
sisters of faith
and servants and slaves unto all who wants to save their soul
for the
servant is not greater than his master
:rofl: godbless us all always
indeed as it is written my brethren my brother
sisters and unto all indeed
we have learn to forgive each other
thats why we call you our own
as what the elders used to tell us
 
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TonyJay

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this makes the most sense to me. He had a specific agenda, the prophecies talk about it, and Jesus teaches on it. i dont think He was married the bible would have mentioned it.
i just always thought it strange that the very idea was looked at as heresy in itself. i dont get why its such a big deal.
The main problem is that this whole issue is an unwanted distraction from what really does matter.
There is so much misinformation about who Jesus Christ really was, not to mention some unbelievably malicious stuff about Jesus Christ abroad in the world already.
The Word of God is completely silent on this issue - simple as that.
It did not happen.
If it had do you really believe Scripture would have been silent on the issue?

If it had happened there would have been nothing to hide and so it would have had prominence in Scripture.
But it didn't happen!

So, lets get back to the important issues at hand - the magnitude of what Christ Jesus achieved for us on the cross!