Against OSAS: some of the best warnings to the churches!

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There you go again rejecting the 3rd person the Holy Spirit which God cannot and will not ever forgive you for this sin disciplemike.
God is: 1. The Father 2. The Son 3. The Holy Spirit
And i do know you have rejected the Holy Spirit as being with the Father and Son. For this you are condemned.
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If it might help mike ... there are about 25 NT verses
where all Three are mentioned together, as if They are equal.

This factoid might impress someone, if not mike.
 
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God doesn't politely suggest that we be holy, He commands "Be ye holy".
God is Holy and we should be imitators of God.
"This is the will of God, Even your sanctification", 1 Thess 4: 3--5.
The trouble with a lot of todays Christians, just want to add Jesus to their old life style.
That's why the devil knew it was the right time to introduce the false grace teaching.
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Now, here we have a guy (or gal) who is unclueless (not clueless).
Hey, let us Praise the Lord ... shall we?
 
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KenAllan said:
Ephesians 2:8
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For by grace you have been saved

False Grace???

Its only those who are trying to keep the Law for Salvation that hate the Grace of God.

We are under Grace, the Law has been done away with.

Romans 3:24
[SUP]24 [/SUP]being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus

Romans 6:14
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
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Why do the false grace teachers think We true Biblical grace teachers are trying to keep the law, Joseph Prince is obsessed by thinking the true grace teachers are trying to keep the law.
We keep God's commandment's, But that's not the same as keeping the law.

As for Rom 6: 14, We know that sin does have dominion over the false grace teachers.
What they don't accept or believe, is, There is a God's part and a our part.
 
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Is it time to ask again? ...

Is anyone able to understand what Paul was getting at in Romans 6?
Answer: Yes, a very tiny minority!

Especially these 8 verses ... Romans 6:16-23,
wherein he warns three (3) times ... Sin results in eternal death.

News Flash:
These verses were not written to unbelievers.
These Roman believers were aware of the red factoid.
Surely, these poor Roman believers did not need to be
hammered over the head with this factoid.
Butski, they were in need of it ... because they loved sinning so much!
 
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If you can lose your salvation then you did not get your salvation from God.

If you claim to have salvation and do not walk in newness of life you did not get your salvation from God.

2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

For the cause of Christ
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notuptome said:
2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:
old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
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The new creature is no longer in bondage to sin.
The new creature is no longer a slave to sin.
The new creature now has the indwelling Holy Spirit to help him/her.
The new creature even has the word of God to feast on and be led by.
'Tis all wonderful indeed ... let us Praise the Lord.

The new creature still has his/her free will.
The new creature can choose to habitually sin.
The new creature who believes in OSAS can think it's okay to sin.
The new creature who believes in OSAS can think he/she is going to heaven regardless.
Etc.
 
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And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them].
Ezekiel 36:27 (KJV, MBM)
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God; "I will cause you to.....". I will, I will, I will, says the Lord God almighty.
 
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You mean they dont have the joy of sinning with their salvation?
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I mean Satan cannot rob them of their salvation, so he does the next best thing and tries to rob them of the joy of their salvation by keeping them locked up under Law.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
God; "I will cause you to.....". I will, I will, I will, says the Lord God almighty.
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You only ever give God's part, you never mention the, "If you, if you ,if you's".
God has given us the power to walk in His statutes, But we know that not every Christian keeps His commandments.
 
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God4me said:
You only ever give God's part, you never mention the, "If you, if you ,if you's".
God has given us the power to walk in His statutes, But we know that not every Christian keeps His commandments.
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You turned right around and forgot that it is God who causes us to walk in His statutes, and to keep His commandments. Apparently we are not emphasizing Gods "part" nearly enough. LOL.
 
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God4me said:
You only ever give God's part, you never mention the, "If you, if you ,if you's".
God has given us the power to walk in His statutes, But we know that not every Christian keeps His commandments.
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Sadly while you think you are keeping Jesus commandments until you come to believe what God says about you it is impossible to keep His commandments.
 
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FreeNChrist said:
You turned right around and forgot that it is God who causes us to walk in His statutes, and to keep His commandments. Apparently we are not emphasizing Gods "part" nearly enough. LOL.
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Everyone on here seems to know God's part, So I'm addressing the balance as I know and teach God's part, But I'm defending the whole word of God, Not just His part.
 
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FlSnookman7 said:
Sadly while you think you are keeping Jesus commandments until you come to believe what God says about you it is impossible to keep His commandments.
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I not only know what God says about me, and His conditions for His blessings towards me, But I do what God says, AND ENJOY HIS BLESSINGS.
 
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God4me said:
Everyone on here seems to know God's part, So I'm addressing the balance as I know and teach God's part, But I'm defending the whole word of God, Not just His part.
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God is God and you are not. You cannot "balance" God with yourself, you can only make yourself more imbalanced by trying.
 
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ZacharyB said:
The new creature is no longer in bondage to sin.
The new creature is no longer a slave to sin.
The new creature now has the indwelling Holy Spirit to help him/her.
The new creature even has the word of God to feast on and be led by.
'Tis all wonderful indeed ... let us Praise the Lord.

The new creature still has his/her free will.
The new creature can choose to habitually sin.
The new creature who believes in OSAS can think it's okay to sin.
The new creature who believes in OSAS can think he/she is going to heaven regardless.
Etc.
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2Co 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Does not matter what you think only matters what God has declared.

If you despise the righteousness of God and you exchange your righteousness for His then you can lose your salvation.

For the cause of Christ
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FreeNChrist said:
God; "I will cause you to.....". I will, I will, I will, says the Lord God almighty.
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Does this one count?

Rev. 3:16: “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”
 
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notuptome said:
Does not matter what you think only matters what God has declared.
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Would it be fair then, to just let the Scriptures given at the beginning of this thread speak for themselves?
 
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God4me said:
I'm not balancing God, I'm balancing the Bible.
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but you are not capable of balancing the Bible. It is God's revelation of Himself and His ways. If you have not realised that you are in no position even to interpret it. GOD acts in grace in salvation. We just respond.

God is not on 'equal terms' with us. He is SOVEREIGN. That is the truth you glide over. He is working out His will, the gathering together of all things in Christ. You think He is just interested in personal salvation
 
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