Can you prove God is real?

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Lisaliz123

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My sister got shot in the side of her head n it was lots of people who prayed to God through Jesus that helped save her. right now she still got the bullets in her head n she is walking n talking n this happen 9/2015. Plus before this happen I seen when I started reading the word of God started following his rules he open up to me n I was to happy n shock to see God was real like n really is a close friend to you it's awesome. That's when I realized that heaven n that lake of fire was real. It knock me of my feet with shock n embarrassment n I felt so stupid for thinking I had life figure out when it was always right under my nose I cry n told the Lord I was sorry. As I read his book I now understand a lot about life.
 
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p_rehbein said:
Personally, I find the question in the OP to be a joke...........there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in International Law, Federal Law, State, County, or Local Law that requires anyone to prove God is real. And, if you know of a Scripture that requires any of us to prove God is real, please post it.

Show me the Scripture that states: "I am the Lord, your God, go forth unto all the world and prove that I Am Real." Show me that, and I will be far more interested in a conversation about the question in the OP....
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Romans 1:18[FONT=&quot] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.[/FONT]
 
Magenta

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The Holy Spirit of God opens the eyes, minds, and hearts of the spiritually blind. If the question is one of whether or not we as believers can convince non-believers of the existence of a God Whom they deny the existence of, the answer is likely no. Yesterday I played a role in getting someone -who has since been banned- that the historicity of Jesus Christ is a fact, though the person in question still denied the divinity of Christ and the validity of Scripture and faith. This was someone who said they had been a youth pastor before they came to believe that science had more value to them.

For me the most convincing "evidence" was direct revelation from God, and it is for that reason that I encourage people to diligently seek God out for themselves, for it is promised to those that seek that they shall find.
 
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ukok102nak

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Grandpa said:
The first two laws of thermodynamics state that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only altered in form and mass can neither be created nor destroyed only altered in form.

So that means that all the energy and mass that is here in the universe is all the energy and mass that there ever was.

So that brings a very big problem of how did it get here in the first place?

All this mass and energy must have had a starting point. Nothing explains this starting point except a creator.

It didn't create itself naturally. It didn't come from nothing naturally. It could only come about to begin with, super-naturally.


There's no scientific explanation for how all the matter and energy that is here, got here. There can't be. Because science can only explain the natural. Not the super-natural.

Colossians 1:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
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:haha: how about the anti-matter
for all kinds of energy in this reality were made up of atom
even on a a single dust in space has an atom inside it
a space dust
that is
but before the beginning of the creation is there any existing atom
in this plane of existence
 
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ukok102nak

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PaulMack said:
Can you prove the existence of God without using the existence of God as proof He exists?
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:haha: for the existence of the word god
prove the existence of God without using the existence of God as proof He exists

:rofl: the very word god itself
that is
 
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ukok102nak

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:whistle: those two :rofl: and :haha: combined their
spiritual signature and
this gonna be fun
 
posthuman

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Magenta said:
The answer to life the universe and everything is 42 :)
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hehehe

it's even written in great big bold letters so everyone can see it.

"therefore they are without excuse"
 
posthuman

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ukok102nak said:
a space dust
that is
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it's 99.9999999% empty space
even the dust, that is

♫ He's not just holding me; He's holding me together ♪♪

so here's this guy, who acts like everything is solid
((knowing that it's not))
but doesn't believe in glue

i'm supposed to convince him ?
 
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missy2014

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Lisaliz123 said:
My sister got shot in the side of her head n it was lots of people who prayed to God through Jesus that helped save her. right now she still got the bullets in her head n she is walking n talking n this happen 9/2015. Plus before this happen I seen when I started reading the word of God started following his rules he open up to me n I was to happy n shock to see God was real like n really is a close friend to you it's awesome. That's when I realized that heaven n that lake of fire was real. It knock me of my feet with shock n embarrassment n I felt so stupid for thinking I had life figure out when it was always right under my nose I cry n told the Lord I was sorry. As I read his book I now understand a lot about life.
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You really should share your testimony a lot more a lot of Christians sadly don't believe
In the reality of heaven and hell oh they won't deny the truth its biblical do most of them really believe its real ? No if they did they would live completely different lives children Of God such of those God used powerfully in the past in revivals knew they weren't to be worldly and set their mind on the things above heavenly minded that's why it offends popular pastors when people talk about spiritual encounters from God about eternity and their common response : we should focus on the work of the kingdom of God now in this life but that's the opposite of scripture to be heavenly minded. Heavenly minded people live this life well these Christians bless and gladen my heart so much.
 
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ukok102nak

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posthuman said:
it's 99.9999999% empty space
even the dust, that is

♫ He's not just holding me; He's holding me together ♪♪

so here's this guy, who acts like everything is solid
((knowing that it's not))
but doesn't believe in glue

i'm supposed to convince him ?
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:haha: the man is not here for a moment my brethren
for hes with the other and with the elders
i'll speak for him for the meantime

. ... and what you've said is true
as the wisdom is in you
as it is written
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Kawikaan: 8. 26. While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28. When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29. When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

. ... as it is written
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Cosmic dust is dust which exists in outer space. Most cosmic dust particles are between a few molecules to 0.1 µm in size. A smaller fraction of all dust in space consists of larger refractory minerals that condensed as matter left the stars. It is called "stardust" and is included in a separate section below.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
nzlotrfan

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Absolutely. The Kalam cosmological argument and also the moral argument for starters.

This is where Christian Apologetics is helpful to know.
 
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red_love

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I'm not too sure if I can prove that God is real but I can tell you that from MY experience I felt him.

I was a realist before - very analytical and concluded that God was fake.

I received some bad news recently I was actually really close to becoming an atheist. Period.

Bad news after bad news does this to a man, you know?
Anyway, I felt his spirit come over me and calm me that night, it's weird because it was illogical and I didn't understand why I'd fee him, but I did and he saved me that night.
If He willed not to show then I'd have been an atheist.

I ain't perfect but He is and that's the only proof I have.
 
JaumeJ

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Can anyone honestly declare all that is just made itself? The idea is beyond absurd. God bless you. I know Him, and because of this I know no man will ever be able to prove He is not.
 
p_rehbein

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Romans 1:18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
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I LOVE that passage of Scriptures, however, they do not state a Commandment that we go forth and "prove" God is real to anyone. In fact what they do do, is state that God Himself HAS PROVEN to all mankind that He is real. Given that, when people ask me to prove God is real, I don't take them too seriously.

........just saying.......

:)
 
Utah

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PaulMack said:
Can you prove the existence of God without using the existence of God as proof He exists?
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Yes I can. When you get that crushing, searing pain that feels like there's an elephant sitting on your chest, and you can't breathe, and you're naucious and sweating, and you're overcome with impending doom, and you realize you're having a heart attack, you call out to God, thus proving His existence.
 
Utah

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Vdp said:
So far i see only two people here who take the time to be serious about not using circular logic to prove God is real. All the rest are those who answer seem to be false Christians making jokes instead of being serious.

Is this what we are seeing today? False Christians who think God is a joke?
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A tree is known by its fruit, and you're sour grapes.
 
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KenAllan

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The answer is by Faith we accept Jesus.

BUT, on the other hand God already knew even before He created anything who would accept Him as their Lord and Savior. Its totally out of our hands. There is nothing we can do to convince God to accept us and give us our Salvation.

We are Chosen by God, we do not chose God!
 
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p_rehbein said:
I LOVE that passage of Scriptures, however, they do not state a Commandment that we go forth and "prove" God is real to anyone. In fact what they do do, is state that God Himself HAS PROVEN to all mankind that He is real. Given that, when people ask me to prove God is real, I don't take them too seriously.

........just saying.......

:)
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I don't take them seriously either. If someone really wants to prove or disprove God the info is already available. Why haven't they sought it? Why make someone else do the work? (I have played that game with enough askers to know why. After all my effort in proving God from a variety of ways, the answer always comes back in fewer than three words. "You're wrong" or just "wrong." Therefore I don't waste my time, until someone proves to me they'll put in the effort. PaulMack merely proved he wanted no effort. It didn't even cross his mind again until three-quarters of a year after the question asked. Therefore, why bother?)

And if they're out to prove or disprove God, it is already a tell of what they will find. If they're out to prove God, they can find it. If they're out to disprove God they will put on the blinders to fulfill their desire, instead of objectively look for real answers. (Most people who start at disprove, but are willing to be proven wrong, end up proving God instead.)

BUT all that said, it does tell us the proof is available. Earlier, I listed the fields in which I can prove God. I suspect if I were interested in other fields, the list I gave would lengthen. (I'm now wondering if God is provable in the field of communications. lol)
 
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Utah said:
Yes I can. When you get that crushing, searing pain that feels like there's an elephant sitting on your chest, and you can't breathe, and you're naucious and sweating, and you're overcome with impending doom, and you realize you're having a heart attack, you call out to God, thus proving His existence.
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Orrrr, you go on Google to look up the symptoms and conclude it's just a weird kind of indigestion. lol

(Hubby never got the elephant sitting on his chest part. He got the rest though. Maybe he didn't need proof God is, because he already had it.)

But we did negotiate that one in our marriage. He is never EVER allowed to diagnose himself through Google again! AND when I say we have to get to the hospital NOW, we have to NOW!
 
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