What's the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant?

[Drcraig1]

The only difference I see is the way the Passover was kept.

Jeremiah: 31. 31. "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them, " declares the Lord. 33. "This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the Lord. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34. No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the Lord. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."

Through the Passover the Israelites left Egypt when God gave instruction to sacrifice the lamb and eat its flesh and put the blood around the door. Also the Passover gives us forgiveness of sins. Not exactly the cross.

Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

And what ceremony did they eat that gave forgiveness of sins?

Matthew: 26. 17. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?" 18. He replied, "Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, 'The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.'" 19. So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover.

So aren't all churches encouraging members to do Passover New Covenant?

 

[Grandpa]

So the Jewish people crucified the Lord Jesus because He wanted to change how the Passover was kept?

I think you might be missing some pages from your New Testament, bro

 

[seed_time_harvest]

The only difference I see is the way the Passover was kept.

Jeremiah: 31. 31. "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them, " declares the Lord. 33. "This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the Lord. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34. No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the Lord. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."

Through the Passover the Israelites left Egypt when God gave instruction to sacrifice the lamb and eat its flesh and put the blood around the door. Also the Passover gives us forgiveness of sins. Not exactly the cross.

Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

And what ceremony did they eat that gave forgiveness of sins?

Matthew: 26. 17. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?" 18. He replied, "Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, 'The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.'" 19. So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover.

So aren't all churches encouraging members to do Passover New Covenant?

Be spiritually minded.

 

[KenAllan]

The Old Testament was all about trying to keep the Law, about being under the Law.

The New Testament is all about being under Grace. It's all about the Law being fulfilled by Jesus.

 

[p_rehbein]

That may be the easiest question ever asked here on the BDF........

FIRST COVENANT..........................LAW

NEW COVENANT...........................GRACE

Any more questions?


Ohhhhhhhh, I see, you wasn't asking a question............you wuz getting ready to put up that stuff.........sigh

 

[Drcraig1]

What's the difference between Passover, communion, and sacrament?

 

[p_rehbein]

The Law……………..Faith
First Covenant................New Covenant

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Romans 10:1-4 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone that believeth. 9.) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10.) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

1[SUP]st[/SUP] Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 19) For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. 22) For the Jews require a sign, and the Greek’s seek after wisdom; 23) But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness. 24) But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. 27) But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. 10) For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11) But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12) And the law is not of faith; but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 17) And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18) For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19) Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed shold come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angles in the hand of a mediator, ……23) But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24) Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25) But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26) For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. 15) Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace. 16) And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby; …….19) Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

Colossians 2: 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him; 7) Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the traditions of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9) For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, 10) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power;

3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. 15) And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16) Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another, in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Timothy 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. 5) For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5) Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6) Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7) That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7) For if the first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. 8) For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah; …………12) For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13) In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are alled might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. 16) For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator…………28) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2) For then would they not have ceased to be offered? Because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins…… 9) Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, oh God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10) By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

What's the difference between Passover, communion, and sacrament?

IF you are trying to understand the old covenant In order to understand the new covenant,then your question IMO Is legitimate

but If you are trying to have a discussion for discussion sake then I hope you are asking this question for the sake of those who don't understand the difference between the passover and communion.

 

[Drcraig1]

Yes, we are saved believing. But is it just by believing in the name or the sacrifice? No, we have to believe in the promise contained in those sacrifices and the instructions Christ intended I us to receive salvation . That's why the Pharisees and the teachers of the law weren't able to be saved because they believed they can be saved by works without knowing the promise behind the works of the law.
So since the Passover contains the promise of forgiveness of sins, for those whoever believes in this promise, then when it is done at the appointed time we believe the promise is contained in. But until Christ was sacrificed on the cross the Passover bread and wine couldn't be put into effect. That's why the bible says like this:

Luke: 22. 15. And he said to them, "I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.

And about the cross:

Hebrews: 9. 15. For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. 16. In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, 17. because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living.

 

[Drcraig1]

Yes, I want to know are they the same or different. Because I went to church for years doing communion not knowing the will contained behind it. And I know many people still are doing it, but do they know the will behind it?
So this is for everybody who doesn't know

 

[FreeNChrist]

Yes, I want to know are they the same or different. Because I went to church for years doing communion not knowing the will contained behind it. And I know many people still are doing it, but do they know the will behind it?
So this is for everybody who doesn't know

They are different. Whereas the Passover memorial looked back to God’s delivery of the Jews from their bondage out of Egypt, the New memorial looks back to the Cross through which Christ has delivered us from our bondage to the Law and sin and death.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Yes, we are saved believing. But is it just by believing in the name or the sacrifice? No, we have to believe in the promise contained in those sacrifices and the instructions Christ intended I us to receive salvation . That's why the Pharisees and the teachers of the law weren't able to be saved because they believed they can be saved by works without knowing the promise behind the works of the law.
So since the Passover contains the promise of forgiveness of sins, for those whoever believes in this promise, then when it is done at the appointed time we believe the promise is contained in. But until Christ was sacrificed on the cross the Passover bread and wine couldn't be put into effect. That's why the bible says like this:

Luke: 22. 15. And he said to them, "I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.

And about the cross:

Hebrews: 9. 15. For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. 16. In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, 17. because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living.

Its by believing in Him...the living, risen, Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

 

[Drcraig1]

Yes, we have to believe Jesus is God, because there is no one else we can be saved by, but why do we have to believe he has risen? It's so we can believe one day we will rise as well. That's why he gave us all the instructions through his physical life to help its understand how our spiritual lives must be carried out. For instance, when Jesus came preaching the truth he was persecuted. When we preach the true teachings of Jesus today, such as biblical Sabbath day and Passover you will take on much persecution. And why did Christ carry the cross? It was to show us that we too should carry our own cross and hang up our sinful nature every day. He did all those things as an example for us. That's why we're called Christians, which means followers of Christ.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Yes, we have to believe Jesus is God, because there is no one else we can be saved by, but why do we have to believe he has risen? It's so we can believe one day we will rise as well. That's why he gave us all the instructions through his physical life to help its understand how our spiritual lives must be carried out. For instance, when Jesus came preaching the truth he was persecuted. When we preach the true teachings of Jesus today, such as biblical Sabbath day and Passover you will take on much persecution. And why did Christ carry the cross? It was to show us that we too should carry our own cross and hang up our sinful nature every day. He did all those things as an example for us. That's why we're called Christians, which means followers of Christ.

We believe in the Jesus who is God. If He had not risen, there would be no Jesus to believe in, and we would have remained dead in our sins and trespasses. He hasn't given us "instructions", He's given us Himself.

 

[emjcares]

They are different. Whereas the Passover memorial looked back to God’s delivery of the Jews from their bondage out of Egypt, the New memorial looks back to the Cross through which Christ has delivered us from our bondage to the Law and sin and death.

Yes, excellent, and if I may add, it looks forward as well. (As often as you partake, you do show the Lord's death, til He comes, right?) Meaning, as you always point out well, He's ALIVE, and coming again!

Its by believing in Him...the living, risen, Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN!

 

[Preacha24-7]

It's very simple. Old Testament=Law New Testament = New Covenant (Grace) I thank God for his Grace &Mercy. God gave man dominion on the earth. Once Adam &Eve sinned man lost that dominion. God already knew he had to fix things. Jesus came to make things right between God and man. Isaiah 53:5 talks about how Christ suffered for us. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by his stripes we are healed. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.John14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Galatians3:13-14 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree). that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. All these scriptures came from New King James Bible. Good night and may God bless every Christian in this chat room Preacha24-7

 

[FreeNChrist]

Yes, excellent, and if I may add, it looks forward as well. (As often as you partake, you do show the Lord's death, til He comes, right?) Meaning, as you always point out well, He's ALIVE, and coming again!

Yes, we are to continue the new memorial until He returns.

 

[emjcares]

1 Corinthians 15:12-19King James Version (KJV)

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

But the wonderful good news-----verses20-22

'But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first fruits of them that slept.
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection from the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.'

 

[jaybird88]

The only difference I see is the way the Passover was kept.

Jeremiah: 31. 31. "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them, " declares the Lord. 33. "This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the Lord. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34. No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the Lord. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."

Through the Passover the Israelites left Egypt when God gave instruction to sacrifice the lamb and eat its flesh and put the blood around the door. Also the Passover gives us forgiveness of sins. Not exactly the cross.

Matthew: 26. 26. While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." 27. Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. 28. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

And what ceremony did they eat that gave forgiveness of sins?

Matthew: 26. 17. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, "Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?" 18. He replied, "Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, 'The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.'" 19. So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover.

So aren't all churches encouraging members to do Passover New Covenant?

most dont want to hear such things. as many times as Jesus speaks of "keep my commands" "follow me" "do the will of my Father" it makes little difference to them and never seems to set in.

 

[mpaper345]

The difference is you go by Old covenant,you no saved,you go by New covenant,you saved.

Capisce.

Although the people in the Old covenant are saved if their sins were covered by the blood of animals,for their sins were washed away by the blood of Christ.

But the Old Testament covenant does us no good if we only go by that,for the physical ordinances,and the blood of animals does us no good.