House of Judah and/or House of Israel?
- Thread starter disciplemike
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
John 6:63 [FONT="]It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
If you can see things spiritually, all things are significant in Gods Word.
Galatians 4:25-26
[/FONT][FONT="]25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.[/FONT]
If you can see things spiritually, all things are significant in Gods Word.
Galatians 4:25-26
[/FONT][FONT="]25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.[/FONT]
E
He was looking for those who were lost. In what was known as Judah, but called Isreal. From all 12 tribes, who were living in Judah at the time he was their..
Not sure what the rest of what you said means. Of course he knew, But what would that matter? He was sent to the area known as Judea and Sumeria was he not? So not only did he preach to Jews (including all 12 tribes) but sameritans (also known as half breads ) also.
Don't tell me you're another denier of God's Word regarding the Biblical history of the ten lost tribes.
Whoever Jesus said He was 'sent' means that's who would accept Him. Did the majority of Jews in Judea accept Him? No, instead they had Him crucified. So obviously, when He said He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, that is pointing directly to those who would... accept Him, and that they did ON NATIONAL SCALES per western Christian history.
Whoever Jesus said He was 'sent' means that's who would accept Him. Did the majority of Jews in Judea accept Him? No, instead they had Him crucified. So obviously, when He said He was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel, that is pointing directly to those who would... accept Him, and that they did ON NATIONAL SCALES per western Christian history.
"Therefore, behold, the days are coming, declares YHVH, when it shall no longer be said, ‘As YHVH lives who brought up the people of Israel out of the land of Egypt,’ but ‘As YHVH lives who brought up the people of Israel out of the north country and out of all the countries where he had driven them.’ For I will bring them back to their own land that I gave to their fathers.
Jeremiah 16:14-15 (ESV2011, MBM)
Jeremiah 16:14-15 (ESV2011, MBM)
Yes it means whoever does not have the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Ghost they do not belong to Christ.or you could say whosoever is not a Christian the new name he named his children then neither do they belong to Christ , the Holy Ghost .
Bottom line is do you belong to Christ?
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The refomation has come the shadows according to the ceremonial fleshly law have be fulfilled.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.Act 15:8
Is there a reason why you insist on putting some sort of difference between the house of Israel and the spiriutual house of God made up of many lively stones from any nation as his eternal bride? Are there two brides two gospels?
Bottom line is do you belong to Christ?
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The refomation has come the shadows according to the ceremonial fleshly law have be fulfilled.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.Act 15:8
Is there a reason why you insist on putting some sort of difference between the house of Israel and the spiriutual house of God made up of many lively stones from any nation as his eternal bride? Are there two brides two gospels?
P
@disciplemike
Your love of God is clearly displayed and hence you are zealous. (not a bad thing) James and John were zealous of protecting Jesus reputation, they wanted to call down fire from Heaven like Elijah, but Jesus told them that was not the spirit they were of (neither are we)
I think a meek, loving and humble spirit are more prized by God than winning a doctrinal debate. To proclaim God;s mercy thru Jesus rather than high light Torah compliance.
I love the OT. Some people have viewed me oddly because I recognize the prphectic signifigance of the Feasts so please don't feel attacked, I'm with ya on some of your points.
Your love of God is clearly displayed and hence you are zealous. (not a bad thing) James and John were zealous of protecting Jesus reputation, they wanted to call down fire from Heaven like Elijah, but Jesus told them that was not the spirit they were of (neither are we)
I think a meek, loving and humble spirit are more prized by God than winning a doctrinal debate. To proclaim God;s mercy thru Jesus rather than high light Torah compliance.
I love the OT. Some people have viewed me oddly because I recognize the prphectic signifigance of the Feasts so please don't feel attacked, I'm with ya on some of your points.
The majority of the people of Israel were made up of the ten northern tribes. There are 13 tribes, technically when counting Levi, and Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh each as a tribe.
So when only the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and some small remnants of the 10 northern tribes became separated from the northern kingdom, and those of the northern kingdom were taken captive and scattered among the Gentiles, indeed the MAJORITY of the children of Israel became 'lost'. There's no mistaking it.
If one likes math, they can easily research the numbers of each tribe before God split them into two separate kingdoms, and then afterwards when both houses were taken captive, and then with the return to Jerusalem of the "house of Judah" only, and it will prove what I said above.
So when only the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and some small remnants of the 10 northern tribes became separated from the northern kingdom, and those of the northern kingdom were taken captive and scattered among the Gentiles, indeed the MAJORITY of the children of Israel became 'lost'. There's no mistaking it.
If one likes math, they can easily research the numbers of each tribe before God split them into two separate kingdoms, and then afterwards when both houses were taken captive, and then with the return to Jerusalem of the "house of Judah" only, and it will prove what I said above.