What would we say?

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oyster67

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What would we say?

What would we say in answer to the question of "Why aught we be allowed to enter in?"

I feel that this question is a healthy question to ask so long as we keep Revelation 12:10 in view;

(Rev 12:10 [KJV])
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

This verse tells us that, once we surrender ourselves to Christ, we need not listen to Satan as he reminds us of our past.

If we were to stand before the Father, all we would need to say is; "I have no excuse, but I do have a Saviour." This would be the answer He was looking for. This also happens to be the only answer that would be acceptable from such small, weak, and frail creatures as we are.

I suspect that the most dreaded inquisitor we shall ever have to face once we have learned to plead the blood of Jesus is ourselves. Will we not ask ourselves; "Why didn't I take more time in my busy life to draw nearer to Him?"

How many of us will be able to have this testimony:

(Rev 12:11 [KJV])
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

What do we love the most, and by how much more than all those other things that seek to crowd into our busy little lives?
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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What would we say in answer to the question of "Why aught we be allowed to enter in?"

I, me, personally, I will say that I don't deserve to be let in and then ask directions for the lake of fire. I bide my time now hoping that won't be my outcome, but I'm pretty sure it is. I hope for the best, but am bracing for the worst.

*this is only my personal opinion. I am not inviting debate or conversation with this statement. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. My obligation to this thread is concluded. Good night.*
 
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We should say because when it comes to me Christ did not die in vain.
 
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we can all change if we believe in our Saviour's Life & Words...
 

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What would we say in answer to the question of "Why aught we be allowed to enter in?"
I would not need to say anything.. God being all knowing would know if i was accepting of His will or not actually He has known it since the start of creation.. Actually if i felt the need to say something then i think i would be in trouble because i would probably be trying to justify my own entry.. And if i was attempting to do that then i would be doomed..
 
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If we are in Christ we are already "in" aren't we??
 

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What would we say in answer to the question of "Why aught we be allowed to enter in?"

I, me, personally, I will say that I don't deserve to be let in and then ask directions for the lake of fire. I bide my time now hoping that won't be my outcome, but I'm pretty sure it is. I hope for the best, but am bracing for the worst.

*this is only my personal opinion. I am not inviting debate or conversation with this statement. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. My obligation to this thread is concluded. Good night.*
Praying for you Jon to come to the realization that if you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior then there is NO condemnation for you.
This thought that we aren't sure about our Salvation does not come from the Lord, but from your enemy.

You are GREATLY loved by your Father in Heaven AND your brothers and sisters in Christ. You are His child. Can you under any circumstances imagine your earthly father disowning you because of something you did? He may be disappointed but you remain his son.

So imagine how MUCH MORE your Heavenly Father loves you and will never leave nor forsake you. I pray you would experience the joy in the knowledge of Him. Have a great weekend!
 

Sac49

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What would we say in answer to the question of "Why aught we be allowed to enter in?"

I, me, personally, I will say that I don't deserve to be let in and then ask directions for the lake of fire. I bide my time now hoping that won't be my outcome, but I'm pretty sure it is. I hope for the best, but am bracing for the worst.

*this is only my personal opinion. I am not inviting debate or conversation with this statement. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. My obligation to this thread is concluded. Good night.*
I understand your thoughts here. Looking upon my life i sure dont deserve to be let in. Now i am not a bad person but im sure not a good person. Fortunately it wont be me that God will be looking at. God will see the blood of Christ covering me so i wont need to say a word. It isnt "ourselves" that allow us to enter heaven. Do we have the blood of Christ covering us? Have we given our lives to Christ and have our faith fully in Him? Or do we keep thinking we have to "earn" our way into heaven? If we think too much about "ourselves" then we will have the thinking of "ill never be let in". If our thoughts are upon Christ and His blood covering us then we have no need to worry.

Yes in hard times or in depressed thoughts i will also think about this..."will i be let in". But, i have to allow God to change my thinking to thoughts upon Christ. This isnt always easy as life sometimes has a way of bringing us down. Lets keep our eyes focused on Christ so these thoughts of "hells fire" wont enter our minds.
 
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Wish I had your folks' level of faith. I don't have any faith to speak of. I have a non-descriptive hope that I am not wrong. Faith is a strange concept to someone like me. It's not easy to describe and hard for me to express what it would entail.
 

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"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:20)
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)
"Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 18:3)

As for humility, which is the greatest Christian virtue, we ought to consider the faithful humility of such as John the Baptist saying, I am unworthy to stoop down and unloosen His shoe latches; or Peter saying, Depart from me, for I am a sinful man O Lord; or the centurion saying, I am not worthy that He should enter under my roof; or Paul saying, I am less than the least of all saints. Such an condition of heart should be with us in that day.
 

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Wish I had your folks' level of faith. I don't have any faith to speak of. I have a non-descriptive hope that I am not wrong. Faith is a strange concept to someone like me. It's not easy to describe and hard for me to express what it would entail.
Brother, i am right there with you. I question myself all the time. Yet, the Holy Spirit will reveal something to me that will cause me to think. Cause me to realize that it isnt me that can save myself. I am always brought back to the cross. It is part of sanctification. It is the power of the Holy Spirit working in our lives. Helping us to grow in Christ. It is not our faith but the faith that has been given you by God. Your questions are not a "lack of faith" but a faith that is growing. We all make the mistake of looking inside when we should be looking up. Like i said, it is part of the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit in you.

Dont compare yourself to others. We are each unique and we all grow seperately and in different ways and at different paces. God knows which way is best for you. So understand that God is teaching you and helping you in a way that is right for you. Designed specifically for you and only you. His way is different for each of us. The way He is working in you is made only for you so dont look at others and say "i wish" but look at God and say "in your way for me".
 

Sac49

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Wish I had your folks' level of faith. I don't have any faith to speak of. I have a non-descriptive hope that I am not wrong. Faith is a strange concept to someone like me. It's not easy to describe and hard for me to express what it would entail.
And dont tell yourself that "i dont have any faith to speak of". If you had "no faith to speak of" i highly doubt you would have posted on here on this subject. I think, i could be wrong, that you just dont quite understand it and that is fine. It is fine because you are admitting that and that opens the door for the Holy Spirit to teach you. You, by admitting that, have humbled yourself before the Lord. Not many will humble themselves before the Lord in such a way. Humility is the first step to allowing the Holy Spirit to teach you and bring you closer to God.
 

notuptome

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I have but one plea that is that Jesus blood was shed for me.

The faith I have I have received of the Lord through His word and His Holy Spirit. My sinfulness proves His faithfulness everyday.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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And dont tell yourself that "i dont have any faith to speak of". If you had "no faith to speak of" i highly doubt you would have posted on here on this subject. I think, i could be wrong, that you just dont quite understand it and that is fine. It is fine because you are admitting that and that opens the door for the Holy Spirit to teach you. You, by admitting that, have humbled yourself before the Lord. Not many will humble themselves before the Lord in such a way. Humility is the first step to allowing the Holy Spirit to teach you and bring you closer to God.
I posted in the hope someone could clue me in to what faith is and what's involved with it. I've never felt the presence of God in my life, so I'm left with an idea in my mind, and that's all I have to base my feelings on, and it's just not enough. Maybe I'm not open to His presence. Maybe I am resistant of Him being in my life like I am of having people in my life. Not sure. Not something I'll figure out here at CC. I've had all of this place I can stand and have requested my account be deleted. I appreciate your words though and your trying to help. There are some good folks here.
 
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I am covered by the Blood and that is what I would say, I plead the Blood of Jesus
 

Sac49

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I posted in the hope someone could clue me in to what faith is and what's involved with it. I've never felt the presence of God in my life, so I'm left with an idea in my mind, and that's all I have to base my feelings on, and it's just not enough. Maybe I'm not open to His presence. Maybe I am resistant of Him being in my life like I am of having people in my life. Not sure. Not something I'll figure out here at CC. I've had all of this place I can stand and have requested my account be deleted. I appreciate your words though and your trying to help. There are some good folks here.
You can PM me if you want. Faith can for sure be hard to understand as it is more than "just a feeling". I would be more than willing to help you through this.
 
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What would we say?

What would we say in answer to the question of "Why aught we be allowed to enter in?"
That question immediately brings to mind Luke 17.

Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

It's not a question of why. Christ already placed his kingdom within us. The "entering in" is believing that he did it and believing it was nothing we did or ever can do to enter in. Entering into his rest. Rest from striving to enter. Believing God.

Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

Wish I had your folks' level of faith. I don't have any faith to speak of. I have a non-descriptive hope that I am not wrong. Faith is a strange concept to someone like me. It's not easy to describe and hard for me to express what it would entail.
Our brother Yahweh_is_gracious actually professed the truth. None of us have any faith of our own to speak of. The faith of Jesus Christ is supernatural!! He gives us his faith and he himself makes us to believe him.

Yahweh_is_gracious proclaims he has a non-descriptive hope. And he's right! We have the eternal hope of Christ which surpasses our mind's comprehension! It's supernatural!

It is the truth to say we are without excuse, because no flesh can glory in God's sight. And it is also the truth that it will be said of ALL those whom God has called, "They overcame him by the Blood of the Lamb!" Not because of what we did, but because of Him whom we believed in. It is Jesus who is keeping us, guiding us, working in us, performing in us, completing us. Not we ourselves!

Even if we are faithless, the Lord remains faithful because it's impossible for him to deny who he is. He is our faithful Lord who will complete what he started in us. Nothing can separate us from his love. Nothing will pluck us out of his hand.

Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord and he will lift you up.

Humbling ourselves means to be honest about who we are. We are blind in the flesh. Yahweh_is_gracious again spoke a spiritual truth when he said you can't describe hope. Our natural mind won't ever, ever, ever grasp spiritual things. It's impossible. We're like the walking dead!

But because of Christ in us, we are resurrected in him. We can all rejoice that we are God's children and our name is written in the Book of Life.
 
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What would we say in answer to the question of "Why aught we be allowed to enter in?"

I, me, personally, I will say that I don't deserve to be let in and then ask directions for the lake of fire. I bide my time now hoping that won't be my outcome, but I'm pretty sure it is. I hope for the best, but am bracing for the worst.

*this is only my personal opinion. I am not inviting debate or conversation with this statement. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. My obligation to this thread is concluded. Good night.*
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oyster67

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Wish I had your folks' level of faith. I don't have any faith to speak of. I have a non-descriptive hope that I am not wrong. Faith is a strange concept to someone like me. It's not easy to describe and hard for me to express what it would entail.
"Lord, increase my faith" is a wonderful prayer to pray. Knowing that our Lord wants to draw us nearer to Himself every day is such a comforting thing. I know that He is much more real to me now than when I started on my journey. It is exciting to know that it will get even better as the days go by.

Like a very good friend, you will get to trust Him more by just spending time with Him. Hebrews 11 has many good verses about faith. One of my favorites is this one:

(Heb 11:6 [KJV])
But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Many are frightened by this verse, but for me it has the opposite affect. I want to be able to come to him as a simple child. It relieves me of the burden of trying to give myself proof that He exists and that He loves me. I can just come to Him like a simple little child. This is what He really wants. It is almost too good to be true, but it is true.