"Hard to understand"

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This thread is only for those who posses in themselves the power to learn and to be open minded. I will share a video series that goes deep into the Word of God to completely teach about and explain many misconceptions about what Paul wrote in he's letters to the Saints regarding God's grace towards us and the law. Before anyone posts anything on this thread it would be my wish that they would watch the series first and with an open mind.

2 Peter 3 14-18


So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

In short:
Peter is warning the saints that in Paul's letters there are some things which are hard to understand, which ignorant(Unlearned) and unstable people distort into teaching we are not obey the law after receiving grace. We are commanded to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and not be led astray from those teaching we do not need to keep the commandments and thereby loosing our secure position in Him.

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZBb5gypa2k&list=PLo5QtZ1bPyYbLdyw2AnVKX9tm-b2YJFhQ
 
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Good grief !!!!!!!!!!!!! Do something with that horrible font.
 
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Just more Hebrews Roots nonsense . *Sigh
 
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This is about what the bible says and is not biased. Please respect the wishes put out in the thread.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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In short:
Peter is warning the saints that in Paul's letters there are some things which are hard to understand, which ignorant(Unlearned) and unstable people distort into teaching we are not obey the lawafter receiving grace. We are commanded to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and not be led astray from those teaching we do not need to keep the commandments and thereby loosing our secure position in Him.

Enjoy!
Before I invest any time (work--shameless pun) into the teaching. Please sum up if you would what you mean precisely by the law noted above. Be verbose, because if I miss in my attempt to obey one microscopic part of the law, as I understand it, I am obligated to perform ALL of it.
 
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This is about what the bible says and is not biased. Please respect the wishes put out in the thread.
Public forum. Anyone with a comment is free to post. So don't hold your breath that only people who agree with you will post.

Also, horrible font choice. Difficult to read. And bold doesn't really change anything as far as making what you say seem more relevant or true.
 
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FreeNChrist

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This is about what the bible says and is not biased. Please respect the wishes put out in the thread.
Not biased? It's put out by a Hebrew Roots organization, it's totally biased.
 
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I think it the font looks good, but maybe not for all. I will consider another one for any other threads.
 
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I think it the font looks good, but maybe not for all. I will consider another one for any other threads.
You're not a teenage girl. Why do you have to have a cutesy font? The one supplied is quite readable... and it CAN be made bigger or bolded if you want to emphasize something.
 

Yonah

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amazing and sad that nobody addressed this thread with actual scripture...seems telling to me,
 

Yonah

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oh and by the way see prov. 18:13
 
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amazing and sad that nobody addressed this thread with actual scripture...seems telling to me,
Well, I for one, found it so difficult to see that I have yet to read more than about two lines of it.
 
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You're not a teenage girl. Why do you have to have a cutesy font? The one supplied is quite readable... and it CAN be made bigger or bolded if you want to emphasize something.
Who cares. Why are you still talking about the font ? The font is called "Impact" and is just thicker letters. I will not even use it if anyone have problem reading it, which I don't. Do you still have a problem understanding what I wrote ? If so I am giving it to you personally in another font:

This thread is only for those who posses in themselves the power to learn and to be open minded. I will share a video series that goes deep into the Word of God to completely teach about and explain many misconceptions about what Paul wrote in he's letters to the Saints regarding God's grace towards us and the law. Before anyone posts anything on this thread it would be my wish that they would watch the series first and with an open mind.

2 Peter 3 14-18


So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position.18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

In short:
Peter is warning the saints that in Paul's letters there are some things which are hard to understand, which ignorant(Unlearned) and unstable people distort into teaching we are not obey the law after receiving grace. We are commanded to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ and not be led astray from those teaching we do not need to keep the commandments and thereby loosing our secure position in Him.

Enjoy!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZBb5gypa2k&list=PLo5QtZ1bPyYbLdyw2AnVKX9t m-b2YJFhQ
 
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Before I invest any time (work--shameless pun) into the teaching. Please sum up if you would what you mean precisely by the law noted above. Be verbose, because if I miss in my attempt to obey one microscopic part of the law, as I understand it, I am obligated to perform ALL of it.
The law of God (Torah) written in what we call the books of Moses.
 
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SteelToedKodiak

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The law of God (Torah) written in what we call the books of Moses.
So you know it through and through since you are teaching it as doctrine? I'm asking for your interpretation, your full interpretation. I don't think you understand the importance of embracing this as basis for eternal life.
 
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Thanks, I can finally see it. But are you seriously asking for a 5 hour investment of time (probably even 7 hours since they ask you to watch two other videos before you start the series) before even answering your post? Fat chance of that, you know.
 
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Thanks, I can finally see it. But are you seriously asking for a 5 hour investment of time (probably even 7 hours since they ask you to watch two other videos before you start the series) before even answering your post? Fat chance of that, you know.
That is between the individual and God. If people are drawn towards learning more about this subject then I honestly believe this teaching series about the subject does an excellent job and is not biased but strictly based about what the bible teaches. This subject is also in my opinion going to be one of uttermost importance to get right. After all there is only one truth of the matter. Somebody is right and somebody is wrong, and nobody wants to be deceived.
 

Grandpa

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It would only take about 5 minutes to read Galatians 3 which would refute 99% of what Hebrew roots people try to "teach".


It's kind of funny that only people who wish to refute what Paul says quote Peter saying how hard he is to understand.

IMO Paul is pretty straight-forward.

You know who is hard to understand sometimes is Ezekiel and Isaiah...