What is this "lack of knowledge" that destroys the people?

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If God's people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge, should we search that out and find out what it is?


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psalm6819

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I can tell you EXACTLY what it means. It means consider the WHOLE counsel of God.

It means don't be ignorant of the scope of what Jesus has done for us.

It means read your Bible yourself instead of what other people say about it.

Don't forget Psalm 23 in a rush to judgement.
 
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A person can be obedient outwardly but not true Inwardly.Truth Is Inward first then through renewing the mind,work what Is new to the outside and only GOD can clean the Inside.
 
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LaurenTM

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sometimes, it happens that peoples may think they have knowledge, but it is only all puffed up stuff

like a flaky croissant, but without all the rich buttery goodness

wisdom from God is needed to dispense all the knowledge folks think they have

and the thing is, God declares His thoughts are higher than our thoughts

so, sometimes, just when you think you have all the sheep in the pen, you find out you forgot to close the gate and they all went to a better pasture...the one where Jesus is the Good Shepherd
 

EarsToHear

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That’s from Hosea 4:6.


This is God speaking, to the "House of Israel" of old, right down to the Christian Nations of today. He is telling you and I why we were cut off, and that is for our lack of knowledge in God's word, that's where the true knowledge is. This generation, with its priest, ministers, and teachers put their false doctrine and traditions over the Word of God. They make God's word conform to soothe their congregations, rather than being convicted to call for repentance.


The "Laws of God" have to be eliminated for a set of laws with no absolutes. These laws of God are His 10 Commandments, simple and plain. They allow each individual's mind to govern their actions when those individuals have no standards of absolutes. Everyone does what is right, in the eyes of his own mind. The result is chaos and confusion.


It's no wonder the promises of God to His children are eroding away. Those elect of God will fix the truth in their minds, as we approach the time of the Antichrist, very soon.


God says, if you play church, and continue in ignorance with these games and false doctrine's, "I will also forget they children". This has occurred through the years to where today we have a generation with, no standards, no direction, and are ripe for the "New World Order" of a godless Satanic System.
 

Sac49

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A lack of knowledge is knowing God without knowing God. We can have all the knowledge about God without really knowing Him by being in the relationship with Him. You could know everything about me but since you have never met me in person you dont know me. Its the same with God.
 
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A lack of knowledge is knowing God without knowing God. We can have all the knowledge about God without really knowing Him by being in the relationship with Him. You could know everything about me but since you have never met me in person you dont know me. Its the same with God.
that sounds very theological and all, but not exactly what the verse is saying.
 
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FreeNChrist

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If God's people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge, should we search that out and find out what it is?
I'm a Christian living under grace, not a Jew living under the Law, so no, I have no need to search that out.
 
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Preacha24-7

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Times have changed. The devil is busy. He's trying to take as many people to hell as he can, because he don't want to be in hell by himself. America was once a Godly nation. We now live in a very Godless society. Hollywood actors are always making fun of Christians and it really pisses me off. These people think because they're rich and famous they can say and do whatever they want. I don't care how much money you make. Living without Jesus is like driving a car without insurance. I respect Christian actors, because Hollywood is very demonic and Hollywood is also very racist. Hollywood promotes sex outside of marriage, Adultery, and Homosexuality. The Illuminati is pushing the Gay Agenda. They want everyone to accept Homosexuality as normal. Then the US Government said it was OK for gays to get married. Its time for America to repent and turn back to God before its too late. 2 Chronicles 7:14 If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. People worship everything but forget about God. He's the one deserves all Glory, honor, and praise. People worship money, they treat Hollywood actors and professional athletes like kings. Some people worship women and turn into Sex Addicts and have many sexual partners. They uphold the wicked, and treat Christians like the scum of the earth. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord. I believe that God has a remnant of people who will fight for what is right and preach the truth and expose Satan and his evil ways. Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. People need to choose Jesus before its too late. Once you die its too late. There is no purgatory. No one can pray you out of hell. Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgement.all these Scriptures came from the New King James Bible. Lord Jesus bless your people and keep us safe from harm. Give us strength and courage to stand up against evil. Full us with Holy Ghost power to do the work you've called us to do in Jesus name I pray Amen Preacha24-7
 
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There are some similar threads to this thread at the bottom of this page.
 
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I can tell you EXACTLY what it means. It means consider the WHOLE counsel of God.

It means don't be ignorant of the scope of what Jesus has done for us.

It means read your Bible yourself instead of what other people say about it.

Don't forget Psalm 23 in a rush to judgement.
I would agree and add those who fall short of knowledge that can convert a person soul do not mix faith in what they do hear. and therefore will not enter his Sabbath rest.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.Heb 4:1

It becomes what does it mean to mix faith in what is heard? How would that effect the ceremonial laws as a shadow that were used up until the refomation? Do they lack knowledge today still look to shadows and types?
 
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Hosea 4:1
Listen to the word of the Lord, O sons of Israel,
For the Lord has a case against the inhabitants of the land,

Because there is no faithfulness or kindness
Or knowledge of God in the land.

Hosea 4:6 is directed against the sons of Israel back in the days the Law was in effect. Today the Law has been fulfilled when Jesus died on the Cross. Today we are under Grace.

If you want to keep the Law God will allow it, but break even the least of the Law and God will never allow you to enter into Heaven.

By putting yourself back under the Law dooms you to Eternity in Hell.

As for us we live and walk in Grace with God and will enter into Paradise with Him.
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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I would agree and add those who fall short of knowledge that can convert a person soul do not mix faith in what they do hear. and therefore will not enter his Sabbath rest.

Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.Heb 4:1

It becomes what does it mean to mix faith in what is heard? How would that effect the ceremonial laws as a shadow that were used up until the refomation? Do they lack knowledge today still look to shadows and types?
Where does your faith come from? Biblically speaking.
 
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GuidanceGodsWay

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Hosea 4:1
Listen to the word of the Lord, O sons of Israel,
For the Lord has a case against the inhabitants of the land,

Because there is no faithfulness or kindness
Or knowledge of God in the land.

Hosea 4:6 is directed against the sons of Israel back in the days the Law was in effect. Today the Law has been fulfilled when Jesus died on the Cross. Today we are under Grace.

If you want to keep the Law God will allow it, but break even the least of the Law and God will never allow you to enter into Heaven.

By putting yourself back under the Law dooms you to Eternity in Hell.

As for us we live and walk in Grace with God and will enter into Paradise with Him.
Colossians 1:15-20 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the pre-eminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, 20 and by Him to reconcile ALL things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.

Is the Bible stating something false here? With regard to "Eternity in Hell? Does God contradict Himself? How are these verses reconciled to Hell Eternal?
 

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I'm a Christian living under grace, not a Jew living under the Law, so no, I have no need to search that out.
Yes we know....Christians love their freedom to be 'lawless.
 

posthuman

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so mike what have you learned from the Torah?

are you still incapable of answering that question?
((are you always learning, or have you come to a knowledge of the truth?))

what is the goal, the end, the destination of Torah?

is it self-imposed behavior modification, or something else?
 

posthuman

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Hosea is not the only place the scripture teaches about ignorance and the desolation that results from it. We do well to remember that Hosea spoke to a people under a quite different covenant than we have been given.

Here is some illumination about people who lack knowledge.
((even though they have the Torah))

Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
(Romans 10:1-4)​

See, having Torah -- even outwardly keeping it -- is not "
knowledge of God"
nor "
knowledge of righteousness"
This only comes through Christ, to those to whom it is granted by the Father to come to Him, and to know.

The people who preached Torah never attained this,
but those who preach Christ preach the true knowledge of God and His righteousness.
Notice that the scripture says this is for
everyone who believes, not 'all who practice the Law of the old covenant given to the ethnic Jew baptized into Moses.'

There is one baptism now for the people of God, and it is not into Moses.
It is into Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, the Son of God!!
 

posthuman

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Yes we know....Christians love their freedom to be 'lawless.
did we not have enough false accusers here? we needed another one?

Do I lack madmen, that you have brought this fellow to behave as a madman in my presence? Shall this fellow come into my house?
(1 Samuel 21:15)