When will Jesus return?

[SCHISM]

Please forgive me for not including references to these verses and any mistakes by recalling from memory because I am setting in a truck in the rain, and my phone is being slow.

No man knoweth the day nor hour of the Lord's return.
[but you could narrow it down to a few hours and the statement remain true]

But of that day knoweth no man, neither the angels in heaven, but my father only.
[in the context, this clearly speaks of when heaven and earth pass which is a separate event from his return]

As the days of Noah were, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
[Noah knew it was coming for many years, preparing the arc, and God told him seven days before the rains came that the rains would come in seven days]

Even in Corinthians, Paul wrote, concerning the second coming, that they were not of darkness and that he could write to them about that time if he didn't already presume they knew.

How is it that we do not discern this time?

 

[Willie-T]

Why do you seem to feel we are supposed to?

 

[FreeNChrist]

Christians have been preparing for it for 2000 years, and each generation has thought it the last. The only thing I know for sure is that one of these times we're gonna be right.

 

[SCHISM]

Why do you seem to feel we are supposed to?

I'm going to have to look a verse up to answer that. For some reason my phone navigates CC with no problem, but it has a lot of trouble with Google and Facebook.

 

[SCHISM]

Well, when I wrote even in Corinthians I was mistaken. It is 1 Thessalonians 5


5 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.


He says that he does not need to write to them about times and dates because the day of the Lord should not surprise them as a thief. Which could just mean that they are always ready, good call FreeNChrist. I could be wrong. But God did tell Noah the day the rains would come.

I'm just gonna throw this out there. I definately plan to be sober and watching for the new moon at the beginning of October.

 

[hornetguy]

I think the scripture was comparing the time of Noah with the end times because of the corruption of the world.... NOT the fact that "Noah knew when it would happen, so we should, too".

I think you maybe slightly missed the context of that verse... but that's just my understanding of it.

 

[tanakh]

The only thing that matters is our personal relationship with God. In one sense the second coming takes place for someone in the world at every minute, because we all die. Instead of fretting about the second coming,rapture and the rest of the baggage we should be living our lives with that sobering thought in mind.

 

[Depleted]

Well, when I wrote even in Corinthians I was mistaken. It is 1 Thessalonians 5


5 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.


He says that he does not need to write to them about times and dates because the day of the Lord should not surprise them as a thief. Which could just mean that they are always ready, good call FreeNChrist. I could be wrong. But God did tell Noah the day the rains would come.

I'm just gonna throw this out there. I definately plan to be sober and watching for the new moon at the beginning of October.

Feel free to add that to Wiki's list.

 

[jenniferand2]

Please forgive me for not including references to these verses and any mistakes by recalling from memory because I am setting in a truck in the rain, and my phone is being slow.

No man knoweth the day nor hour of the Lord's return.
[but you could narrow it down to a few hours and the statement remain true]

But of that day knoweth no man, neither the angels in heaven, but my father only.
[in the context, this clearly speaks of when heaven and earth pass which is a separate event from his return]

As the days of Noah were, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
[Noah knew it was coming for many years, preparing the arc, and God told him seven days before the rains came that the rains would come in seven days]

Even in Corinthians, Paul wrote, concerning the second coming, that they were not of darkness and that he could write to them about that time if he didn't already presume they knew.

How is it that we do not discern this time?

Luke 21:32 - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

 

[mpaper345]

Please forgive me for not including references to these verses and any mistakes by recalling from memory because I am setting in a truck in the rain, and my phone is being slow.

No man knoweth the day nor hour of the Lord's return.
[but you could narrow it down to a few hours and the statement remain true]

But of that day knoweth no man, neither the angels in heaven, but my father only.
[in the context, this clearly speaks of when heaven and earth pass which is a separate event from his return]

As the days of Noah were, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
[Noah knew it was coming for many years, preparing the arc, and God told him seven days before the rains came that the rains would come in seven days]

Even in Corinthians, Paul wrote, concerning the second coming, that they were not of darkness and that he could write to them about that time if he didn't already presume they knew.

How is it that we do not discern this time?

No person knows the second coming of Christ,not the Son,nor the angels,but only the Father,but of course the Son knows for His deity is God,but it means that the man Christ Jesus does not know.

I thing you mean Thessalonians,not Corinthians concerning Paul writing to the saints about the day of the Lord,and Paul is not writing anything concerning the day of the Lord.

Paul said he had no need to write concerning the day of the Lord,for they know it comes as a thief in the night,and Paul does not know for God did not reveal it to him.

Paul did not write anything about the day of the Lord,that we can know it,but what he wrote is about when they say Peace and safety,that is what will not deceive the saints,for it is when the world comes together thinking they can solve their problems on earth,and they start going towards the beast kingdom,but the saints will know it is not the operation of God to have peace,and will not follow it,which the Bible says that those in the truth,God will deliver them from the temptation that shall come upon the whole earth.

As the days of Noah means they will go about their daily activities and ignore the warnings from the saints that they need to escape the things that will come upon earth,and get right with God.

If someone knows the truth they will not be deceived by anything anyway,even if we do not know all prophesy concerning the future,for whatever comes up that is wrong,we will not fall for it.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Luke 21:32 - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

Hi jenniferand2,

Please explain your interpretation of the scripture that you provided above? Thanks!

 

[jenniferand2]

There is no clear answer to when Jesus will come back to save his Children all we know is we need to have faith and believe that he will come and take us to his kingdom and we will not have to suffer anymore. I do not care if Jesus comes tomorrow or 5 years from now I love him and believe that when the time is right he will come and End our suffering. Scholars have had to try sense the beginning of time to predict the second coming of Jesus. We just have to be ready we have to not lose faith even in the darkest days. Just keep believing that he will come and it will be better then anything you could ever imagine.

 

[jenniferand2]

Hi jenniferand2,

Please explain your interpretation of the scripture that you provided above? Thanks!

I found that under versus about the End of days There needs to be things fulfilled before the second coming of Christ. I am thinking that things must happen and fall into place before he returns. Unless i am wrong if I am please advise me.

 

[Ahwatukee]

I found that under versus about the End of days There needs to be things fulfilled before the second coming of Christ. I am thinking that things must happen and fall into place before he returns. Unless i am wrong if I am please advise me.

Thank you! I guess I should have been more specific: what is your interpretation regarding the reference to "this generation?"

 

[Willie-T]

Thank you! I guess I should have been more specific: what is your interpretation regarding the reference to "this generation?"

It can only mean two things.

You see it as meaning "mankind." And others see it as meaning those He was talking to.

 

[Ahwatukee]

It can only mean two things.

You see it as meaning "mankind." And others see it as meaning those He was talking to.

Hello Willie,

Yes, you are correct, others see it as the generation that Jesus was speaking from. But, the problem with that interpretation is that Jesus just went through most of Mt.24 describing the signs that would lead up to his return to end the age. Then he says, likewise, when you see the trees blossoming, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all of things thing's happening, then you can know that the end is near. I tell you the truth, "this generation" will not pass away until all of these things are fulfilled. It would be grammatically improper to refer to "this generation" as the one that Jesus was speaking from, but would have to be referring to the generation where those signs begin to take place. By making "this generation" the one that Jesus was speaking from, you are forcing the signs into his generation and therefore defeating the purpose of the signs. If I could paraphrase it, it would go like this:

"Truly I tell you, the generation where these signs begin to take place, will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."

 

[Willie-T]

Hello Willie,

Yes, you are correct, others see it as the generation that Jesus was speaking from. But, the problem with that interpretation is that Jesus just went through most of Mt.24 describing the signs that would lead up to his return to end the age. Then he says, likewise, when you see the trees blossoming, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all of things thing's happening, then you can know that the end is near. I tell you the truth, "this generation" will not pass away until all of these things are fulfilled. It would be grammatically improper to refer to "this generation" as the one that Jesus was speaking from, but would have to be referring to the generation where those signs begin to take place. By making "this generation" the one that Jesus was speaking from, you are forcing the signs into his generation and therefore defeating the purpose of the signs. If I could paraphrase it, it would go like this:

"Truly I tell you, the generation where these signs begin to take place, will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."

Interesting that Jesus didn't think to explain it just as simply as your paraphrase. That's why different people believe differently.

 

[FlowersnJesus]

Doesn't the bible say no one knows the time except the father? Even Jesus does not know the appointed time.
So how can we have that knowledge?
My pastor says it is senseless to spend to much time thinking of The Time.

 

[Willie-T]

Doesn't the bible say no one knows the time except the father? Even Jesus does not know the appointed time.
So how can we have that knowledge?
My pastor says it is senseless to spend to much time thinking of The Time.

But, if you have a group who has decided they are going to be able to determine the time, then it is necessary for them to see the Bible saying just a little bit more than it actually says.

 

[Willie-T]

Doesn't the bible say no one knows the time except the father? Even Jesus does not know the appointed time.
So how can we have that knowledge?
My pastor says it is senseless to spend to much time thinking of The Time.

Sounds like you have a wise pastor. I'm fairly sure Jesus never told anyone to spend time trying to figure out things He said we could not know.