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Me, too SteelToedKodiak. I used to do Bible studies on all kinds of demonology and stuff that took my focus off resting in Jesus. I won't do it anymore.
Come unto me, all you that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and you shall find rest unto your souls.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Come unto me, all you that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and you shall find rest unto your souls.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
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Hi Sheepman ~ Perhaps you can start another thread concerning your statement highlighted above. I'd be interested in hearing what God placed on your heart about it. 
By the way, although I'm having a wee bit o' difficulty understanding your "swinglish" as I think you called it in another thread... hahaha!! ...I really appreciate your gracious fellowship with us.
Welcome, brother!
By the way, although I'm having a wee bit o' difficulty understanding your "swinglish" as I think you called it in another thread... hahaha!!
...I really appreciate your gracious fellowship with us. Welcome, brother!
T
The sons of God were human, not Angels. I'm a child of God, although a daughter not a son. There are godly people, and worldly people, and God's people were marrying worldly people- which caused a big problem. What fellowship can light have with darkness? God's people are not supposed to yoke themselves with evil people. We coexist, but bad company corrupts good morals. Look at the genealogy, it says Seth was the son of Adam, and Adam the son of God.
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Does it really matter? I mean sure, it's intriguing about the giants, fallen angels, daughters of men, etc. But it's not necessary to get ourselves mentally worked up and anxious about it. It's not a required study or anything.
Did ya notice in the Bible when the first Christians came to the knowledge of Jesus Christ, they didn't go from city to city preaching about giants and fallen angels and all the stuff that we get ourselves in a frenzy over? All they ever proclaimed was who Jesus was and how the Lord of Hosts made them new and all the great and awesome things the Lord has done.
Jesus said, "These things I have spoken to you, that in me you might have PEACE. In the world you will have trouble, but be of GOOD CHEER; I have overcome the world."
It's when Jesus shines through us in love and joy and peace that attracts the world to him! Not our knowledge of evil.
Did ya notice in the Bible when the first Christians came to the knowledge of Jesus Christ, they didn't go from city to city preaching about giants and fallen angels and all the stuff that we get ourselves in a frenzy over? All they ever proclaimed was who Jesus was and how the Lord of Hosts made them new and all the great and awesome things the Lord has done.
Jesus said, "These things I have spoken to you, that in me you might have PEACE. In the world you will have trouble, but be of GOOD CHEER; I have overcome the world."
It's when Jesus shines through us in love and joy and peace that attracts the world to him! Not our knowledge of evil.
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[FONT="]And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
According to Jesus these things will happen again. In fact they still are.[/FONT]
Mayhaps it comes from these?
Matthew 22:29) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 .) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Galatians 3:26) For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 .) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 .) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
I know we have Gabriel and Michael, not sure if a female angel is named in Scripture......and can easily see both sides of this discussion about angels having a gender. Now, one can interpret the passage of Scripture from Zechariah as evidence that there are, in fact, female angels, but this is still being debated according to the studies I have done.
Zechariah 5:9) Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
10 .) Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
11 .) And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.
I do not take sides in this debate............I think there appears to be evidence for both sides of the debate......(as will many other issues from Scripture), and the reason I do not take a side is because I do not believe it is relevant to our salvation, nor our charge from Christ as to the Work of the Kingdom found in Matthew 28:19-20.
Not that others are wrong to discuss this issue, it is just that I do not want to take a side.......
(yeah, maybe fence sitting, or maybe just doing something else I believe to be more important......but, now, that's just me)
J
the bible says at the resurrection we will not be married or unmarried but like the angels of heaven. to say they are genderless is an assumption. but also it says angels "of heaven". the fallen angels would not be "of heaven".
my assumption would be once an angel comes to earth and takes on the physical body of a man or woman they could do whatever a man or woman does. their earthly form would not be the same as their heavenly form.
my assumption would be once an angel comes to earth and takes on the physical body of a man or woman they could do whatever a man or woman does. their earthly form would not be the same as their heavenly form.
So why is it so hard to consider that there was possibly more than one Adam created in the beginning of life on earth?
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:26
Of course, God in Genesis 1:26 is interpreted from the Hebrew term Elohim which is plural, which would represents "the Gods said, Let us make man..." Yet the Gods is consistent with the NT teaching that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. While the Spirit is light, the Word is light, I realize that some will say the Word is sound and not light but how do you hear with your eyes since you are hearing what is I am saying.
If one recalls the testimony given in John 5:19, Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. Therefore if the Son said a man shall leave his mother and father and cleave unto his wife, then therefore the man and his wife shall be one flesh, thence in Genesis 2 Elohim (Spirit and Word) are thence referred unto as the LORD God.
And of course in Genesis 3, the serpent is the most subtil beast of the field that the LORD God had made, and in Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
So to those who were formed from the dust of the ground,being the sons of God who were formed not by blood, nor the will of the flesh, nor the will of man but of God then they probably won't get the meaning of John 20:27-28
27 Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:26
Of course, God in Genesis 1:26 is interpreted from the Hebrew term Elohim which is plural, which would represents "the Gods said, Let us make man..." Yet the Gods is consistent with the NT teaching that in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. While the Spirit is light, the Word is light, I realize that some will say the Word is sound and not light but how do you hear with your eyes since you are hearing what is I am saying.
If one recalls the testimony given in John 5:19, Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. Therefore if the Son said a man shall leave his mother and father and cleave unto his wife, then therefore the man and his wife shall be one flesh, thence in Genesis 2 Elohim (Spirit and Word) are thence referred unto as the LORD God.
And of course in Genesis 3, the serpent is the most subtil beast of the field that the LORD God had made, and in Genesis 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
So to those who were formed from the dust of the ground,being the sons of God who were formed not by blood, nor the will of the flesh, nor the will of man but of God then they probably won't get the meaning of John 20:27-28
27 Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
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But you have to reconcile Luke 20:34-36
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
KJV
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
KJV
I unfortunately married a worldly women and got to beloved boys.
They did not become giants.
Its obvious
gen 6
As the apostles also thought
Its simply just a fact
And its a huge blessing to know.
But I would never say it in itself saves.
But dare I say I was saved through Gen 6 wich is a door in the Word of God wich is Jesus.
Have you noticed that organic things grow bigger or mutate in the precence of radiatiation.
And the Face of Moses was radiant.
Even satan and his host can transform themselves into radiant luciferian beings.
They did not become giants.
Its obvious
gen 6
As the apostles also thought
Its simply just a fact
And its a huge blessing to know.
But I would never say it in itself saves.
But dare I say I was saved through Gen 6 wich is a door in the Word of God wich is Jesus.
Have you noticed that organic things grow bigger or mutate in the precence of radiatiation.
And the Face of Moses was radiant.
Even satan and his host can transform themselves into radiant luciferian beings.