“Coveting to Prophesy”

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“Wherefore, brethren, COVET TO PROPHESY, and forbid not to speak with tongues”—1Corinthians 14:39

The word “prophesy” is from the greek word “propheteuo”—meaning: to foretell events or to speak under inspiration. Hence, prophecy means to foretell things by divine revelation. Then it also means, to speak under divine inspiration.
Over the years, I have consistently received prophetic directions from the Lord, for my own profiting. And as I keep on walking under divine direction, I have kept on making progress in every areas of my life.

God has never left me in the dark concerning his perfect will and plans for my life.

But recently, God just gave me an eye-opener concerning the ministry of prophecy. And as the days go by, I feel strongly impressed in my spirit, that God would have me minister to people prophetically, in order to get more effective results from my ministrations.

Though I have been doing that over the years, at just a simple level, but I feel that God would have me and every other zealous believers press more for the prophetic gifts in our ministries.

And accordingly, I have already started pressing in with all vigor, with supernatural results already coming out…
Some days back in my local church, as the pastor was leading prayers, I was praying along with a desperate crave for a vision from God. As I pressed hard enough by the grace of God, the Lord gave me an inner vision of a colorful bowl of water, filled with water to overflowing.

As I got the vision, after waiting for a while, I just raised my hand up, signaling to my pastor that I had something to share. As he gave me audience, I simply shared what I saw; and was trying to explain what I believe the symbol meant. But before I could finish with my explanation, the Pastor quickly helped me to finalize it, by saying the symbol meant overflow of blessings.

As he gave that interpretation, the atmosphere of the church was charged with faith. People were edified and the power of God manifested in an unusual way. A woman in the church even fell under the influence of the Holy Ghost.

Hence, this sermon seeks to urge every lover of God and his gifts, to press in for the manifestation of the gift of prophecy in our ministrations, to the intent that people can be edified, comforted and exhorted (1 Corinthians 14: 3).
As we approach the end time; as things begin to turn out more difficult as the scriptures says. As people’s love are already beginning to wax cold. As iniquity is already abounding. Only carefully crafted cold sermons will no longer be enough to sustain people’s love.

People need to know that God is still very much in love with them. People need to know that God is not unaware of their predicaments. People need to know God’s good plans towards them and their challenges. People need to know God’s position about their characters so they can be more watchful and circumspect.

And for people to have a “now word” from God, it will require a massive restoration of the prophetic ministry to the church, with appropriate, scriptural administration by church leaders.

And this revival will only be made possible, as believers begin to obey God’s instruction regarding the prophetic gifts. That is, by earnestly coveting to prophesy. By zealously pressing on God for direct word for his people. Instead of being erroneously, open-minded for God to use them anytime he wants.

The word of God admonishes us to be active in our pursuit of spiritual gifts (1 Corin-12:31), such as prophecy. But instead, out of unbelief and ignorance, “supposed believers”, have been (and are still) paying passive attention to the manifestation of spiritual gifts.

Hence, the church has come short of the manifestation of God’s glory and power. As a result of this grievous error, many are already falling prey to false prophets. As they run to them for helps which are abundantly and readily available in the church. Just because so-called believers, refuse to believe God and step out in faith.

At this very moment, God’s utmost heart desire is to mightily pour his Spirit on every and any zealous vessel, who dares to believe his word. So he can use them to bring comfort to his people.

So he can use them to preserve his fruits from decadence…

So Who Can Prophesy?

The answer is- anyone and everyone that truly believe in Jesus Christ. Anyone that wants to be used by God in extending his love to the hurting believers and mankind in general.

Prophecy in the new covenant, is not for only a special group of people. It’s not only for the prophets. The Bible says, “We may all prophesy one by one that all may learn, and all may be comforted”—1 Corinthians 14:31.

Again, in Peter’s confirmation of the prophecy of Joel in Acts 2:16-18, he says, “But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days says God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy”.

So under the new covenant, you don’t have to be called to the prophetic office to prophecy. We are all to prophecy according to the measure or proportion of faith dealt to every man (Romans 12: 3, 6).

One article will not be enough for me to exhaust my sermon on how to covet prophesying. So I will be continuing in subsequent articles…

But in the interim, I urge you to covet to prophesy, as the scriptures admonish.

Remain Blessed!

Emeke Odili
 
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Are you Emeke Odili?
 
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Just wondering, folks like to post long articles, which is okay. I prefer to engage in conversation with the author of possible, that way if I have a question about what is said, they can explain.
 
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1 Corinthians: 14. 1. Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. 3. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 24. But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: 25. And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth. 29. Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30. If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31. For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32. And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandment the Lord. 39. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40. Let all things be done decently and in order.
 
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Prophesy is suppose to be for edification, exhortation and comfort.

I always wonder why so many people focus on foretelling aspect and not those three purposes?
 

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We must understand that those who Prophesy are doing it for their Glory. I have seen many true people who when they Prophesy do not try to seek their own Glory.
 
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Prophesy is suppose to be for edification, exhortation and comfort.

I always wonder why so many people focus on foretelling aspect and not those three purposes?
There's actually more prophecy among us than we realize. For example, when a minister prays & receives a sermon from God, he/she is speaking for God during their preaching. So it is prophetic.

It is proper to covet to prophesy because God wants us to. It is also proper to desire wisdom from God. God would gladly give to "whosoever" of the church because the Joel prophecy states every christian should.

Now we'll sit back & wait for the naysayers to quote 1Cor 13:8-12 wrong again.
 

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Prophesy is suppose to be for edification, exhortation and comfort.

I always wonder why so many people focus on foretelling aspect and not those three purposes?
that is a good point the reason why is because the contextual meaning they apply doesn't fit. Foretelling also means to
Bring forth a message from the word of God that the Holy Spirit has inspired one to speak or Foretell to or for the purpose of: encouragement, edify, comfort, exhort, correct, admonish, and direct; for the purpose of Bring Glory to God not the person. this is = Prophesying. Doing so don't make you a prophet, nor is Prophesying = speaking the Future in this context of 1 cor chapter 12, 13, 14 for the word "prophesying".
 
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The Bible says covet to prophesy,but some preachers say they prophesy to covet.
 

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as I have said before I say again having the gift of prophecy doesn't make you a prophet and prophesying doesn't exactly make you either. God will use anyone who has a willing heart to speak through them and this is especially so with prophesying sometimes the holy spirit will place words or thoughts in our hearts and we speak them not really knowing the true meaning of the words and no knowing it was prophetic simply be being willing and speaking our hearts prophecy is abound even christian song writers and singers are without knowing it speaking prophetically as their words and their music and songs impact the hearts and souls of others which is of course the main cause and purpose of a prophet.

If a person claims to be a prophet and goes around saying thus saith the lord and gives a word or prophecy that doesn't edify or help the church then their prophecy is not from God even satan uses prophecy through people. I met this prophetess once and she gave a supposed word from the Lord and it was about damnation and how God curses and spits on this person she was giving it to and when confronted by me and others about how her prophecy was not of God she flipped out and warned us what happens when one touches or tries to harm his anointed.

Such prophets are very common today and pride is why they set themselves up on the pedistool and look down on others as if they themselves are superior
 
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Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

I suppose all the saints can prophesy,and it sure is true all saints can understand the prophesy of the Bible equally well,for God gives to all saints liberally concerning His word,and upbraids not.
 
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If..... the church had taken prophecy seriously, & allowed the Holy Spirit to use them equally, prophets would have been "the usual". Instead, these goofball false prophets have become famous because they stand out as superspiritual.

Joel's prophecy is for all believers..... & Moses prophesied about it.

Numbers 11:27-29 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP]So a young man ran and told Moses and said, "Eldad and Medad are prophesying in the camp." [SUP]28 [/SUP]Then Joshua the son of Nun, the attendant of Moses from his youth, said, "Moses, my lord, restrain them." [SUP]29 [/SUP]But Moses said to him, "Are you jealous for my sake? Would that all the LORD'S people were prophets, that the LORD would put His Spirit upon them!"


 

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Prophesy is suppose to be for edification, exhortation and comfort.

I always wonder why so many people focus on foretelling aspect and not those three purposes?
Well, I believe its as a result of what people generally understand prophecy to mean. However, even some foretelling aspect of prophecy also fall into edification, exhortation and comfort.

For instance, once as I was praying in my house after spending quality time with my bible. And as I started praying in tongues, the Lord gave me a futuristic word of knowledge for a friend of mine. And as I called him over the phone and declared to him what the Lord said he was about doing for him, he was greatly edified. As he confirmed to me that what I just spoke to him about is exactly what he was secretly asking the Lord to do for him.

And of course, he knew there was no way I could have known except the Lord revealed it to me. Hence, according to the scriptures, the Lord used me to confirm the secret of his heart.
 
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“Wherefore, brethren, COVET TO PROPHESY, and forbid not to speak with tongues”—1Corinthians 14:39

The word “prophesy” is from the greek word “propheteuo”—meaning: to foretell events or to speak under inspiration.
That the popular meaning at least today with all the fortune tellers

Hence, prophecy means to foretell things by divine revelation. Then it also means, to speak under divine inspiration.
Over the years, I have consistently received prophetic directions from the Lord, for my own profiting. And as I keep on walking under divine direction, I have kept on making progress in every areas of my life.
Self-edification is not a gift of God. It profits for nothing other than false pride.

To prophecy is to declare the existing word of God found in the scriptures (prophesy as that which is being declared.) God is no longer bringing any new revelations so the idea of declaring something that is not there.. simply does not exist.

A man can know nothing about his remaining future on earth Today is the day we can work to try and please god . No soothsaying.

What we do have and all that we need as far as God informing us is sealed up till the end of time. The perfect has come what we had in part up until the book of Revelation. Today we have the whole law.

Do you need more that he has revealed in order to worship Him?

God has never left me in the dark concerning his perfect will and plans for my life.

But recently, God just gave me an eye-opener concerning the ministry of prophecy. And as the days go by, I feel strongly impressed in my spirit, that God would have me minister to people prophetically, in order to get more effective results from my ministrations.

Though I have been doing that over the years, at just a simple level, but I feel that God would have me and every other zealous believers press more for the prophetic gifts in our ministries.
Administering to people again is limited by what prophecy we do have. To add to the now perfect word is to receive a strong delusion from God needed to believe the lie.


As I got the vision, after waiting for a while, I just raised my hand up, signaling to my pastor that I had something to share. As he gave me audience, I simply shared what I saw; and was trying to explain what I believe the symbol meant. But before I could finish with my explanation, the Pastor quickly helped me to finalize it, by saying the symbol meant overflow of blessings.
God is no longer bring any new prophecy to include the manner of visions. Sign are for those who belive .beliver walk by faith not after the expernces of this life walking by sight.
2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
 
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Self-edification is not a gift of God. It profits for nothing other than false pride.To prophecy is to declare the existing word of God found in the scriptures (prophesy as that which is being declared.) God is no longer bringing any new revelations so the idea of declaring something that is not there.. simply does not exist.A man can know nothing about his remaining future on earth Today is the day we can work to try and please god . No soothsaying. What we do have and all that we need as far as God informing us is sealed up till the end of time. The perfect has come what we had in part up until the book of Revelation. Today we have the whole law. Do you need more that he has revealed in order to worship Him? Administering to people again is limited by what prophecy we do have. To add to the now perfect word is to receive a strong delusion from God needed to believe the lie.God is no longer bring any new prophecy to include the manner of visions. Sign are for those who belive .beliver walk by faith not after the expernces of this life walking by sight.2Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
To begin with, you added to my original words in quoting me . with this line-- "That the popular meaning at least today with all the fortune tellers"The scriptural meaning of "prophesy" does not include fortune telling.If you say God is no longer speaking today except through the bible, then you mean one of the major ministry of the Holy Ghost was over with the completion of the Bible. Because Jesus told us that when the Holy Spirit comes, he will guide us into all truth and show us things to come.And to correct you, the scriptures never said that the physical bible that we have today is the perfect thing that is to come. In 1 Corinthians 13, the apostle Paul never said the bible was the perfect thing that is to come, in order to take away the imperfect. In the context of that scripture, the perfect that the Apostle Paul talks about, is "Paradise". When we get to heaven, there would be no need for any of the spiritual gifts.Because, in heaven, we will know as we're known. But for the now, that we still see through a glass darkly, we still need the spiritual gifts including prophecy for profiting. For the now we still know in part. And the Holy Ghost will keep on showing us things to come in present manner.
 

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Actually there is a "propheSy" and a "propheCy": with an "S" means basically to speak God's Word or it can be also to preach or teach; but generally it means to speak from God's Word. Contrariwise with a "C" that is when it means as we know already when we hear or read the word: but the subtle difference means everything: prophesy is what is used in (! Corinthians 14:3) but in other places we see prophecy.
 

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Can all Christians Prophecy ?

I Corinthians 12 KJV

28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

Yes the scriptures reveal we should all desire to be given the gift of Prophecy and indeed we should.. But in the end it is also correct that prophecy will only happen if God wills it to happen, If God does not will it to happen then it will not be happening.. I do not see either position as being erroneous ...

I Corinthians 12KJV
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
 
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To begin with, you added to my original words in quoting me . with this line-- "That the popular meaning at least today with all the fortune tellers"The scriptural meaning of "prophesy" does not include fortune telling.
Hi thanks for the reply

Sorry I was not trying to offend you I did get carried away. We are all in the same boat as we offer our private interpretation as personal commentaries as to what we believe, the Holy Spirit is teaching us.

If you say God is no longer speaking today except through the bible, then you mean one of the major ministry of the Holy Ghost was over with the completion of the Bible.
Do we need more?

Yes, he is no longer bringing any new revelations. It is why today when someone says; lo is Christ I just had a vision or a tongue we are to believe not. Because if we follow the commandment that is designed to protect us it would be impossible to deceive us, it defends us by not going above it is written .

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew "great signs and wonders"; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.Mathew 24

Take today for instance, In regard to 1 John 4 that instructs to try the spirits to see if they are of God or of men as false prophets/apostles.

1John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Seeing it’s been over two thousand years and today if person claims to a prophet that say he is declaring the word of God like that of Mohammad( ISIS) we immediately know it is not of God but is of the father of lies the god of this world, a murderer from the beginning.

Because Jesus told us that when the Holy Spirit comes, he will guide us into all truth and show us things to come.And to correct you, the scriptures never said that the physical bible that we have today is the perfect thing that is to come.
What we had in part today we have the whole.

The physical bible literally contains the spiritual words of Christ according to the poetic language of God. He hides the spiritual understanding from those (natural man) who refuse to mix faith (the unseen) in respect to what they do hear.

But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 1Co 2:10
In 1 Corinthians 13, the apostle Paul never said the bible was the perfect thing that is to come, in order to take away the imperfect. In the context of that scripture, the perfect that the Apostle Paul talks about, is "Paradise". When we get to heaven, there would be no need for any of the spiritual gifts.Because, in heaven, we will know as we're known. But for the now, that we still see through a glass darkly, we still need the spiritual gifts including prophecy for profiting. For the now we still know in part. And the Holy Ghost will keep on showing us things to come in present manner.
The remnant of the perfect things to come, our new incorruptible bodies does not mean God is still bringing new revelations and therefore it would violate the warning not to add or subtract from the whole.

When I look at those verses in 1 Corinthians 13 I believe that because they did not have the perfect at that time that prophecies could fail showing us they were of false prophets .When the perfect comes tongues a revelation of from God will cease. All worldly knowledge is shown for what it is, the philosophies of men.

Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 1Co 13:8
 
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@ garee,
I'm sorry, bro, but the Holy Spirit was put within every believer to "reveal" the truth of scripture, the will of God for the church, as well as personally to the believer about their own lives, ministries, etc.

One of the problems we have here is the "superspiritualizing" of the term "revelation" Check Strong's concordance, it means a revealing, nothing more, nothing less.

When a minister prays for a message to give to his congregation, God "reveals" the subject matter to him to be "revealed" to his congregation. It consists of scripture & a main theme that "reveals" the needs/sins/problems/ANSWERS within the Body of Christ. It edifies (builds up) the Body as scripture says it should, (hopefully) fixing the problem.

Personal ministry works much the same way. An individual prays for the congregation/person in need, & the Holy Spirit shows the message/scripture to the individual(s) The result is the same. the individual(s) is edified the same way.

The topics involved can be almost anything: healing, marriage problems, spiritual immaturity, sin in the body, basically anything the minister wouls preach on, but mostly a one-on-one witness to someone in need.

It's common for a christian to feel led by the Spirit to go to the hospital & pray for someone's healing, telling them God sent them. That builds the needy person's faith when they see God sent one of His servants just for them!

Hidden sins are personally revealed, not publically before the congregation, so that that person can pray & receive forgiveness without their dirty laundry scattered before the congregation. It's real ministry, & I've seen it work well, when done correctly.

What's that got to do with prophecy? EVERY TIME someone is led by the Holy Spirit to speak to another, they're God's mouthpiece just like the pastor is, speaking for God. That's true prophecy..... speaking for God.:)

There's NOTHING that ties prophetic ministry to the adding of the canon. That's old tales that 's been told for years, with no scripture to back it whatsoever. Whenever naysayers point to the church's history they point to the Catholic church's history, which is NOTHING of value. One might as well be teaching Catholic doctrine, because they teach the same thing about the Gifts.