"A New Commandment I give you"

[jcha]

No preconceived agenda. Just Bible discussion. Is the greatest command in the NT different than the OT?



Has anyone ever pointed out that Jesus appears to add something to this OT scripture below?

Deuteronomy 6:The Greatest Commandment
…4"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! 5"You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.6"These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart.…


Matthew 22:The Greatest Commandment
…36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?” 37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and greatest commandment.…

Mark 12:The Greatest Commandment
…29Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord, 30and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ No other commandment is greater than these.”…

Luke 10:
…26“What is written in the Law?” Jesus replied. “How do you read it?” 27He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and withall your strength and with all your mind’ and ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28“You have answered correctly,” Jesus said. “Do this and you will live.”…

The above NT verses includes "with all your mind" where the OT does not include "mind"..

Define heart.
Define soul.
Define might/strength
Define mind.

How do you love God with these 4?

Romans 12:Living Sacrifices
1Therefore I urge you, brothers, on account of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. 2Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God. 3For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you.…



John 13:33Little children, I am with you only a little while longer. You will look for Me, and as I said to the Jews, so now I say to you: ‘Where I am going, you cannot come.’ 34A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.”…

John 14:23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him. 24Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. The word that you hear is not My own, but it is from the Father who sent Me. 25All this I have spoken to you while I am still with you.…

1 John 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the Father also loves the one born of Him. 2By this we know that we love the children of God: when we love God and keep His commandments. 3For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,…

 

[Grace777x70]

Yes....the greatest commandment in the Law is below:

Matthew 22:36-40 (NASB)
[SUP]36 [/SUP] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?"

[SUP]37 [/SUP] And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'

[SUP]38 [/SUP] "This is the great and foremost commandment.

[SUP]39 [/SUP] "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'

[SUP]40 [/SUP] "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

No one can do these commandments - only Jesus who has fulfilled the Law has done these. Because we are in Christ - the fulfillment of the Law is done in us because of Christ's obedience.

Jesus has loved the Lord His God with all His heart, soul and mind and He has loved His neighbor as Himself.

God, after He had spoken to us in many ways and potions through the law and the prophets has in these last days spoken to us in His Son. We are to believe in His Son that has fulfilled the Law. ( Hebrews 1:1-3 )

Christians are not under the Law any more as we now live by: Rom. 6:14

1) the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus,

2) the law of love,

3)the law of faith ( the Law of Moses is NOT of faith )

4) the law of liberty in Christ Jesus

5) the law of Christ - Himself

Because we are in Christ - we fulfill the whole law by depending on what Christ has already done for us in His finished work. We live by the life of Christ alone now and not by any commandments of the Law.

We only have 2 commandments under grace now that the Father has declared in the New Covenant.

John tells us exactly what they are and His commandments are not burdensome as he talks about in 1 John 5:3.

1 John 3:23 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

We are in a New Covenant now and the Old Covenant with it's commandments have been made obsolete because we live by a better covenant now which is us in Christ Himself.

 

[jcha]

Yes....the greatest commandment in the Law is below:

Matthew 22:36-40 (NASB)
[SUP]36 [/SUP] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?"

[SUP]37 [/SUP] And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'

[SUP]38 [/SUP] "This is the great and foremost commandment.

[SUP]39 [/SUP] "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'

[SUP]40 [/SUP] "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

No one can do these commandments - only Jesus who has fulfilled the Law has done these. Because we are in Christ - the fulfillment of the Law is done in us because of Christ's obedience.

Jesus has loved the Lord His God with all His heart, soul and mind and He has loved His neighbor as Himself.

God, after He had spoken to us in many ways and potions through the law and the prophets has in these last days spoken to us in His Son. We are to believe in His Son that has fulfilled the Law. ( Hebrews 1:1-3 )

Christians are not under the Law any more as we now live by: Rom. 6:14

1) the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus,

2) the law of love,

3)the law of faith ( the Law of Moses is NOT of faith )

4) the law of liberty in Christ Jesus

5) the law of Christ - Himself

Because we are in Christ - we fulfill the whole law by depending on what Christ has already done for us in His finished work. We live by the life of Christ alone now and not by any commandments of the Law.

We only have 2 commandments under grace now that the Father has declared in the New Covenant.

John tells us exactly what they are and His commandments are not burdensome as he talks about in 1 John 5:3.

1 John 3:23 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

We are in a New Covenant now and the Old Covenant with it's commandments have been made obsolete because we live by a better covenant now which is us in Christ Himself.

I hope you just copied and pasted from another of your posts in repeating yourself.

Now can you define heart, soul, might, strength and MIND?

 

[FreeNChrist]

No preconceived agenda. Just Bible discussion. Is the greatest command in the NT different than the OT?



Has anyone ever pointed out that Jesus appears to add something to this OT scripture below?

Deuteronomy 6:The Greatest Commandment
…4"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! 5"You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.6"These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart.…


Matthew 22:The Greatest Commandment
…36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?” 37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and greatest commandment.…

Mark 12:The Greatest Commandment
…29Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord, 30and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ No other commandment is greater than these.”…

Luke 10:
…26“What is written in the Law?” Jesus replied. “How do you read it?” 27He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and withall your strength and with all your mind’ and ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28“You have answered correctly,” Jesus said. “Do this and you will live.”…

The above NT verses includes "with all your mind" where the OT does not include "mind"..

Define heart.
Define soul.
Define might/strength
Define mind.

How do you love God with these 4?

Romans 12:Living Sacrifices
1Therefore I urge you, brothers, on account of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. 2Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God. 3For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you.…



John 13:33Little children, I am with you only a little while longer. You will look for Me, and as I said to the Jews, so now I say to you: ‘Where I am going, you cannot come.’ 34A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.”…

John 14:23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him. 24Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. The word that you hear is not My own, but it is from the Father who sent Me. 25All this I have spoken to you while I am still with you.…

1 John 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the Father also loves the one born of Him. 2By this we know that we love the children of God: when we love God and keep His commandments. 3For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,…

It always amazes me how so many miss what is "new" about Jesus "new" commandment, and it ain't the mind thing.......

 

[mpaper345]

The two greatest commandments is love God,and love people,both in the Old Testament,and the New Testament,and all the law and prophets hang on these two laws.

Creation testifies that there is a higher power,and of His attributes,that created all things,and loves people,for He provided food,and the means to make clothing and shelter,so people should love this higher power,and love people,and if they do not they do not have any excuse for going against the two greatest commandments.

Everybody will be judged by the two greatest commandments,whether they heard the word of God,or not.

Love is always the fulfilling of the law,whether Old Testament,or New Testament,and Jesus might of said a new commandment I give you is that you love one another,

1.They could not have the Spirit in the Old Testament,so they could not love perfectly,but in the New Testament by the Spirit we can love perfectly.

2.They could not have a spiritual relationship with God,or people,in the Old Testament,which the saints have a spiritual relationship to one another.

3.It was more based on physical blessings,for it was a physical covenant that kept them right with God,until Christ came that washed away their sins,but in the New Testament it is sell all you have and give to the poor,having food and clothing,be content,if any person has this world's goods,and only says I love you,but does not feed the person,or help out with their needs,the love of God does not dwell in them,and the early Church sold all they had,and distributed to the saints that had need.

It could be that mind was not included in the Old Testament,because their mind could never perfectly love God,for the mind is our decision maker,and without the Spirit they could never perform with their mind to love God perfectly.

Perhaps the heart,and soul,can love God with all their might,although they could not perfectly love in the Old Testament,but the mind could not on the same level,love God with all its might.

Maybe the heart,and soul,do not fall short of loving God,but the mind can fall short without the Spirit.

Like people in the world that say I love God,but with their mind they do not always do that,by the bad decisions they make.

Paul said that he notices when he does good,evil is present with him,which is temptation,for he wants to do good,for to will is present with him,but he does not know how to perform that which is good,so by the flesh he serves sin,not that he is sinning,but he said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,and he will be tempted,but with his mind he serves Christ.

Renewed by the transforming of our mind.

It could be the mind could never come in to play concerning the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people,but in the New Testament,by the Spirit,the mind can come in to play,for with the mind we serve Christ,and make the decision to represent goodness,and can perform it by the Spirit.

Either this or it was not added in the Old Testament,but still applied.

I did not give it too much thought until now,and the truth is in the Old Testament they could never perfectly obey the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people,although they always apply,for if we had the power to do so,Jesus would of not of had to come to take away our sins.

For in the Old Testament they could apply their mind all they want,to do what is right,but could never perfectly perform it,for even Paul said concerning the New Testament,and having the Spirit,that to will is present with him,but to perform that which is good he finds not,which he is talking according to the flesh,on the same level as the Old Testament people without the Spirit,but he has the Spirit,so with the flesh he serves sin,but with the mind he serves Christ.

I kind of do not know,but throwing something out there that might sound reasonable.

 

[Grace777x70]

I hope you just copied and pasted from another of your posts in repeating yourself.

Now can you define heart, soul, might, strength and MIND?

Every time I look at 1 John 3:23 - it always says the same thing about what the commandments of God are in the New Covenant. They will remain that way and I will continue to copy and paste this truth.

Heart to me is a combination of the spirit and soul together.

Soul means life - so it is your life.

Might = power/ability

Mind = understanding

These are all requirements of the Law which are all things "man must do" under the Law - but thank God that our Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled all these as our mediator - the man Christ Jesus and He has fulfilled these for us and we are in Him now as He has loved the Lord His God with all His heart and soul and might and mind.

No one can "do" this commandment that is the greatest in the Law but the Lord Jesus Christ Himself has already done it for us.

His obedience is made our obedience as far as the Law goes. We walk now in newness of the Spirit of Life in Him depending totally on His finished work for us in the New Covenant.

Did you ever notice that the tree of Life is NOT called the "knowledge" of Life? Whereas the Law is represented as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Let's eat from the tree of Life which is Christ Himself.

 

[jcha]

The two greatest commandments is love God,and love people,both in the Old Testament,and the New Testament,and all the law and prophets hang on these two laws.

Creation testifies that there is a higher power,and of His attributes,that created all things,and loves people,for He provided food,and the means to make clothing and shelter,so people should love this higher power,and love people,and if they do not they do not have any excuse for going against the two greatest commandments.

Everybody will be judged by the two greatest commandments,whether they heard the word of God,or not.

Love is always the fulfilling of the law,whether Old Testament,or New Testament,and Jesus might of said a new commandment I give you is that you love one another,

1.They could not have the Spirit in the Old Testament,so they could not love perfectly,but in the New Testament by the Spirit we can love perfectly.

2.They could not have a spiritual relationship with God,or people,in the Old Testament,which the saints have a spiritual relationship to one another.

3.It was more based on physical blessings,for it was a physical covenant that kept them right with God,until Christ came that washed away their sins,but in the New Testament it is sell all you have and give to the poor,having food and clothing,be content,if any person has this world's goods,and only says I love you,but does not feed the person,or help out with their needs,the love of God does not dwell in them,and the early Church sold all they had,and distributed to the saints that had need.

It could be that mind was not included in the Old Testament,because their mind could never perfectly love God,for the mind is our decision maker,and without the Spirit they could never perform with their mind to love God perfectly.

Perhaps the heart,and soul,can love God with all their might,although they could not perfectly love in the Old Testament,but the mind could not on the same level,love God with all its might.

Maybe the heart,and soul,do not fall short of loving God,but the mind can fall short without the Spirit.

Like people in the world that say I love God,but with their mind they do not always do that,by the bad decisions they make.

Paul said that he notices when he does good,evil is present with him,which is temptation,for he wants to do good,for to will is present with him,but he does not know how to perform that which is good,so by the flesh he serves sin,not that he is sinning,but he said there is no good thing that dwells in the flesh,and he will be tempted,but with his mind he serves Christ.

Renewed by the transforming of our mind.

It could be the mind could never come in to play concerning the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people,but in the New Testament,by the Spirit,the mind can come in to play,for with the mind we serve Christ,and make the decision to represent goodness,and can perform it by the Spirit.

Either this or it was not added in the Old Testament,but still applied.

I did not give it too much thought until now,and the truth is in the Old Testament they could never perfectly obey the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people,although they always apply,for if we had the power to do so,Jesus would of not of had to come to take away our sins.

For in the Old Testament they could apply their mind all they want,to do what is right,but could never perfectly perform it,for even Paul said concerning the New Testament,and having the Spirit,that to will is present with him,but to perform that which is good he finds not,which he is talking according to the flesh,on the same level as the Old Testament people without the Spirit,but he has the Spirit,so with the flesh he serves sin,but with the mind he serves Christ.

I kind of do not know,but throwing something out there that might sound reasonable.

That does sound reasonable. Thank you.

 

[jcha]

Every time I look at 1 John 3:23 - it always says the same thing about what the commandments of God are in the New Covenant. They will remain that way and I will continue to copy and paste this truth.

Heart to me is a combination of the spirit and soul together.

Soul means life - so it is your life.

Might = power/ability

Mind = understanding

These are all requirements of the Law which are all things "man must do" under the Law - but thank God that our Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled all these as our mediator - the man Christ Jesus and He has fulfilled these for us and we are in Him now as He has loved the Lord His God with all His heart and soul and might and mind.

No one can "do" this commandment that is the greatest in the Law but the Lord Jesus Christ Himself has already done it for us.

His obedience is made our obedience as far as the Law goes. We walk now in newness of the Spirit of Life in Him depending totally on His finished work for us in the New Covenant.

Did you ever notice that the tree of Life is NOT called the "knowledge" of the Life? Whereas the Law is represented as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Let's eat from the tree of Life which is Christ Himself.

Not sold that the OT Law = the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

But thank you for defining how you understand.

 

[jcha]

I've been thinking about Grace777x70 thinks the OT Law is the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The OT Law contained blessings for obedience and curses for DISOBEDIENCE.

The tree of knowledge of good and evil, was man's first test to see if he obeyed (BLESSING) and if he disobeyed there was the curse of sin and death.

All of the TORAH, with its blessings and curses, also was a test to check obedience versus disobedience. Disobey and you are cursed with sin and death.

All have sinned, thus all are cursed with eternal death. Jesus came to keep the law, true. Jesus came to show us how to live obeying the law, but now should you accidentally fail, Jesus mediates for us pleading with God that Jesus paid our debt.

However, this is where I see us, that the OT Laws are still the standard to live by, and God has given us grace through Jesus as we all have weak flesh.

The Holy Spirit is also known as another comforter. This is important since Jesus was also known As the comforter.

More thoughts later....

 

[PeterJens]

Yes....the greatest commandment in the Law is below:

Matthew 22:36-40 (NASB)
[SUP]36 [/SUP] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?"

[SUP]37 [/SUP] And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.'

[SUP]38 [/SUP] "This is the great and foremost commandment.

[SUP]39 [/SUP] "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'

[SUP]40 [/SUP] "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

No one can do these commandments - only Jesus who has fulfilled the Law has done these.

If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.
matt 19:17
“All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”
“If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
matt 19:20-21


Now reading the above the lies being told are laid bare.
Jesus did not say no you have not kept the commandments, you
have failed. No he agreed the young man had done as he claimed
but he still needed to know Jesus and follow him and give up his
dependency on wealth.


This is why I do not follow the teaching put forward by Grace777
and the heresy it is following.

 

[PeterJens]

What is the problem of hyper-legalists?

They believe they know the truth and contradict the very words of Christ.
They exagurate the demands of the law into an impossible goal, continually
defining condemnation and guilt, so that they can more through themselves
on Christ and say they can do nothing to walk in purity and righteousness.

The lies are so deceptive they desire to have both sides of the argument.
They stay sinners, yet are seen as righteous. They claim to follow Christ
yet it is only when Christ does His work in them does anything happen, they
must be totally passive in case this is self effort or an attempt to add to
Christs work. It makes all arguments irrelevant because they just take the
opposite position to try and make a fool of the opposition while contradicting
their own position.

It is simply impossible for sinners to enter heaven, but they hold Christs work
will never purify them, they will always be sinners caught in sin, failures failing.

 

[Grace777x70]

The funny thing about the rich young ruler is that Jesus gave him the Law for "entering into life" because he had asked Jesus "What good thing must "I do" that "I may obtain" eternal life? ( Matt 19:16 )

We know the real answer in the New Covenant is "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ" but Jesus gave the young ruler the Law to expose his need for a Savior because the ruler like all works-based salvationists are depending on their own works for life and salvation instead of what Jesus has already accomplished for us.

People that ask what they "do" in order to merit life will always get the Law put in front of them to bring them to Christ alone for life and salvation.

The young man "thought" he had kept them but it reality it was shown by Jesus that he violated the very first commandment - "You shall have no other gods before Me ". The rich young ruler had money as his real "god".

Jesus showed where the rich young ruler had in fact NOT kept the Law at all.

Only Jesus has fulfilled the Law just as He said He would including the greatest commandment in the Law. If that makes what Jesus said a heresy too in some people's minds - so be it.

 

[NetChaplain]

I believe what Jesus meant by the New Commandment is that it is no longer limited to "as you love yourself" (conditional) but as He loved us (unconditional) - "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another" (John 13:34).

This is not the same as OT law from which they asked of Christ (Mat 22:36), but from the love of God's grace. Instead of loving God with your being, you can love Him with the being of Christ and the Spirit, through our new nature. Newness!

 

[Vdp]

Actually jcha the tree of good and evil was NOT a test to see if Adam and Eve would obey God.

Do you even understand anything about God? God knew even before He created anything that Eve WOULD eat the Fruit of the tree of good and evil.

Ephesians 4:4-6
[SUP]4 [/SUP]just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love [SUP]5[/SUP]He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, [SUP]6 [/SUP]to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved.

Ephesians 4:11
[SUP]11 [/SUP]also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will

Adam and Eve were predestined to be tempted by the Fruit of the Tree AND God had already known Eve would sin.

The Fruit was NOT a test to see if Eve would sin because God already knew even before He created Eve she would sin.

Next time actually study the Scriptures before you ask any more questions.

 

[PeterJens]

The rich young ruler

The point Jesus is making is keeping the law is not enough, it is about the relationship
with God. Love working in your heart, dependency on Christ in your daily life.

Now hyper legalists show themselves by wanting always to go back to the law and saying
no they failed to keep it because this interpretation means they are a sinner.

They have to do this to enable their theology to work.

The young man knew he lacked something, that keeping the law was not enough.
Jesus, the Lord, His God, was saying, here I am, do you want to really know me, or is this
just a game of feeling good about yourself.

Hyper-legalists cannot enter this relationship because they feel though purified by Christ,
though deemed righteous and worthy, they cannot believe they are perfect by following
Christ, and daily condemn themselves and remind themselves how much they fail, so they
depend more on God. Hand in hand with this they claim they can live without illness, and
automatically get wealth, though Jesus talks about poverty, and not desiring money at all.

 

[FreeNChrist]

I believe what Jesus meant by the New Commandment is that it is no longer limited to "as you love yourself" (conditional) but as He loved us (unconditional) - "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another" (John 13:34).

This is not the same as OT law from which they asked of Christ (Mat 22:36), but from the love of God's grace. Instead of loving God with your being, you can love Him with the being of Christ and the Spirit, through our new nature. Newness!

Bingo! That's what makes it "new".

 

[lastofall]

"This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." (John 15:12-13)

 

[PaulMack]

You totally miss the whole point about the Old Testament. It was not about testing people like you teach. It was ALL about showing people that they were sinners. Its all about showing us how we are to walk with God and how each of us will fail if we rely on our strength and not on God.

This is the whole point basically of the O.T.

Jesus Christ came to show us how to live by Faith and Grace. Not how to keep the Law.

The Law was created to show us we cannot keep the Law. Jesus came to the Earth to fulfill the Law so we then could live in Faith and Grace with God.

I believe you need to re-read the Scriptures with the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

 

[jcha]

No preconceived agenda. Just Bible discussion. Is the greatest command in the NT different than the OT?



Has anyone ever pointed out that Jesus appears to add something to this OT scripture below?

Deuteronomy 6:The Greatest Commandment
…4"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one! 5"You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.6"These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart.…


Matthew 22:The Greatest Commandment
…36“Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?” 37Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and greatest commandment.…

Mark 12:The Greatest Commandment
…29Jesus replied, “This is the most important: ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord, 30and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ No other commandment is greater than these.”…

Luke 10:
…26“What is written in the Law?” Jesus replied. “How do you read it?” 27He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and withall your strength and with all your mind’ and ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” 28“You have answered correctly,” Jesus said. “Do this and you will live.”…

The above NT verses includes "with all your mind" where the OT does not include "mind"..

Define heart.
Define soul.
Define might/strength
Define mind.

How do you love God with these 4?

Romans 12:Living Sacrifices
1Therefore I urge you, brothers, on account of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. 2Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to discern what is the good, pleasing, and perfect will of God. 3For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you.…



John 13:33Little children, I am with you only a little while longer. You will look for Me, and as I said to the Jews, so now I say to you: ‘Where I am going, you cannot come.’ 34A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.”…

John 14:23Jesus replied, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him. 24Whoever does not love Me does not keep My words. The word that you hear is not My own, but it is from the Father who sent Me. 25All this I have spoken to you while I am still with you.…

1 John 5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the Father also loves the one born of Him. 2By this we know that we love the children of God: when we love God and keep His commandments. 3For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,…

Old Testament verses on loving God with your heart.

Deuteronomy 30:14, "But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."
Isaiah 51:7, "Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my law"
Psalms 40:8, "I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart."
Psalms 37:31, "The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide."
Proverbs 3:1, "My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:"
Ezra 7:10, "For Ezra had prepared his heart to seek the law of the LORD, and to do it, and to teach in Israel statutes and judgments."
Job 22:22, "Receive, I pray thee, the law from his mouth, and lay up his words in thine heart."

 

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Transgression of the law is sin. The wages of sin is death. Jesus Christ paid our debt to sin with his death.

I'm going to do a hypothetical reasoning. Pretending God said in the Old Testament, Thou shalt not break any speed limit.

Now, we've all done some speeding in our past, or at least broken some other OT laws, and we need Jesus Christ.

Jesus paid our debt to sin. When we call upon his name and repent, God I'm sorry that I ever broke the speed limit, in the name of Jesus Christ I ask for forgiveness. Forgiveness is given and received. That doesn't mean we are now above the law of speed limits or that it shouldn't apply to us.

We should remember when we drive that we were once sinners, but that we have been redeemed, and with ever fiber of our new being we should obey the speed limit. Not because it will give us salvation, because forgiveness had already been received, but because we know that speeding is a sin and we want to be pleasing to our Father.

It doesn't take away from the cross, nothing could. It recognizes the power of the cross, receives atonement, and makes a decision to walk straight.

Yet for some reason, everyone who doesn't recognize this change will say that you have forsaken the cross and Christ. They say that you are trying to earn your salvation with works and remind you that good Christians are above the law.

But you tell them, I am not trying to earn salvation. I am clinging to salvation with all my heart and soul. Where is the sin in that?