Homosexuality! Love the person not the sin!

[eph610]

You are self righteously judging my thinking and heart, so back off! You Are right on your survey of being motivated by His love. But your tone and ctiticism cripples your effectiveness.

Some, the bible says that we save by the skin in their teeth and some are moved by His love. Paul said, knowing the terror of the Lord, we persuade men. Also, this group is the actual one that God gives over to their passions in Romans 1.
The sin of homosexuality has a very severe bond that goes with it. It's very difficult to break free from. One may need the fear of the Lord to really motivate them.

So many Christians just want to see the love and patience of God and not His judgment that we all come to someday and can just give someone a comfortable ride to hell. All the 5 while making us feel as though we did our part.
It's both, but there's a balance.

You know what is typical?
The head that explodes, the false humility, the don't judge me and stop using my words against me and the retreat to the milky distorted communicated Bible knowledge comebacks when the brain grenade of truth is tossed at people like you.

Newsflash ace, Jesus is the judge of the Believer not God, you are not going to be judged as a believer for your SIN, you will be judged on how you advanced the kingdom and what souls you brought into the kingdom.

Have you ever led a homosexual to Jesus Christ? I ask, because all you are doing is vomiting back distorted communicated Bible knowledge handed down from a Bully Pulpit. I have witnessed The power of the Holy Spirit and Goodness of God shatter the bondage of Homosexuality.

God never gave up on you now did he?!?!?


Go to tell your preacher thank you, it is easy for you to preach against something, but when are you going to start to preach for something?

I simply asked you this:

So are you REQUIRED by God to keep your passions in check with the word of God, out of Love for him, based on what he did for you by sending his SON to die for you, or based on fear of judgement, because God is just a big ole angry and judgemental ball of fire all the time even with his children?

Now go and look at all the fleshy replies you have given me...all because you really have no clue how to answer the above question and reconcile it with the milk of the word they have been feeding you with.

 

[lv2ski]

The greatest SIN that cannot be forgiven is Blaspheming the Holy Spirit

The only other SIN that sends peeps t hell is unbelief in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ.

A homosexual that dies in his/her SIN of homosexuality is not separated from God because of his/her sexual sin, he/she is separated from God for unbelief in Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross and that he rose again.

The Bible shows you this very clearly.

Jesus said, except ye repent ye will all likewise perish. 2 John 3 says, someone who is in Christ cannot continue in sin. Notice cannot.

 

[lv2ski]

You know what is typical?
The head that explodes, the false humility, the don't judge me and stop using my words against me and the retreat to the milky distorted communicated Bible knowledge comebacks when the brain grenade of truth is tossed at people like you.

Newsflash ace, Jesus is the judge of the Believer not God, you are not going to be judged as a believer for your SIN, you will be judged on how you advanced the kingdom and what souls you brought into the kingdom.

Have you ever led a homosexual to Jesus Christ? I ask, because all you are doing is vomiting back distorted communicated Bible knowledge handed down from a Bully Pulpit. I have witnessed The power of the Holy Spirit and Goodness of God shatter the bondage of Homosexuality.

God never gave up on you now did he?!?!?


Go to tell your preacher thank you, it is easy for you to preach against something, but when are you going to start to preach for something?

I simply asked you this:



Now go and look at all the fleshy replies you have given me...all because you really have no clue how to answer the above question and reconcile it with the milk of the word they have been feeding you with.

Congratulations, you're in the top 3 most arrogant opiners that I've 5 met on this site so far. Certainly the most condescending. Very ignorant on the whole of scripture and context.

As you were lecturing me on fleshly comments, go read what you wrote to bathroom mirror. Bet you can't do that with a loving expression or tone. My point, take the beam out, before you give anyone else the Christian love speech.

Love does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth. You can't love someone in sin, and urge them to repentance.

 

[eph610]

Congratulations, you're in the top 3 most arrogant opiners that I've 5 met on this site so far. Certainly the most condescending. Very ignorant on the whole of scripture and context.

As you were lecturing me on fleshly comments, go read what you wrote to bathroom mirror. Bet you can't do that with a loving expression or tone. My point, take the beam out, before you give anyone else the Christian love speech.

Love does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth. You can't love someone in sin, and urge them to repentance.

If GOD can love someone in SIN and he is not slow concerning his promise and is patient towards the Homosexual and that none of them should perish and all come into repentance, then I can to....that friend, is the nearly to good to be true gospel....and something that you evidently have issues with.

Sorry your theology was destroyed today. When you come to full age, you will remember this conversation. It is my hope you come to full age before you face him and say, well Your word said that I cannot love anyone in SIN and he says, yeah funny thing Son..........I loved you in yours....

 

[eph610]

Jesus said, except ye repent ye will all likewise perish. 2 John 3 says, someone who is in Christ cannot continue in sin. Notice cannot.

Who are trying to convince of your theology me or yourself?!?!

 

[lv2ski]

You know what is typical?
The head that explodes, the false humility, the don't judge me and stop using my words against me and the retreat to the milky distorted communicated Bible knowledge comebacks when the brain grenade of truth is tossed at people like you.

Newsflash ace, Jesus is the judge of the Believer not God, you are not going to be judged as a believer for your SIN, you will be judged on how you advanced the kingdom and what souls you brought into the kingdom.

Have you ever led a homosexual to Jesus Christ? I ask, because all you are doing is vomiting back distorted communicated Bible knowledge handed down from a Bully Pulpit. I have witnessed The power of the Holy Spirit and Goodness of God shatter the bondage of Homosexuality.

God never gave up on you now did he?!?!?


Go to tell your preacher thank you, it is easy for you to preach against something, but when are you going to start to preach for something?

I simply asked you this:



Now go and look at all the fleshy replies you have given me...all because you really have no clue how to answer the above question and reconcile it with the milk of the word they have been feeding you with.

Uhh..my names not Ace, it's Lightning. I'm not interested in discussing this with you any further. God be true and every man a liar. If you just 5 read the gospels, you can't hold such a militant position.

 

[eph610]

Uhh..my names not Ace, it's Lightning. I'm not interested in discussing this with you any further. God be true and every man a liar. If you just 5 read the gospels, you can't hold such a militant position.

Thank you very much for the compliment...It was said Jesus was also a radical, who also held the same exact militant position....

 

[lv2ski]

Thank you very much for the compliment...It was said Jesus was also a radical, who also held the same exact militant position....

No, not the way you do, in the take on scriptures. He, the apostles and John the Baptist, all called men to repent everywhere they went.

 

[eph610]

No, not the way you do, in the take on scriptures. He, the apostles and John the Baptist, all called men to repent everywhere they went.

Thought you said we were done? I know where I stand. It is becoming rather evident that you don't. You are not convincing me of something I know already.

 

[kaylagrl]

All sin is equal and we all fall short of the glory of God! We all sin but some sins are more visual then others and bring on more judgement from people including the church! We are not to be the judge of anything but we are called to love! People who struggle with homosexuality should not feel condemned to walk through the door of a church but should feel loved and supported as they have to struggle with such a difficult battle. We should be the ones helping them walk through the struggle. We don't have to support their actions but we can help them to stand up against their sin and find peace in the arms of God! God is love! So love!

Quote " We are not to be the judge of anything but we are called to love! "

If you love someone you tell them the truth. Homosexuality has been judged already,its sin,period. Its not judging to say homosexuality is a sin and sin leads to death. If you preach the full Gospel someone is going to be offended.

Quote " People who struggle with homosexuality should not feel condemned to walk through the door of a church but should feel loved and supported as they have to struggle with such a difficult battle. "

If the church is preaching the full Gospel people are going to be offended. There is no way you can preach the Gospel and not offend the sinner,its not possible. Some will feel the Holy Spirit moving and give their heart to the Lord,some will love their sin more and turn away.We are to preach the full Gospel.

Quote" We don't have to support their actions but we can help them to stand up against their sin and find peace in the arms of God!"

Yes, but to be set free they need to know what they need to be set free from. Its never wrong to preach the Gospel.

Quote "God is love!"

God is also the righteous judge. There is a balance there.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

Civility is a 2 way street, please refrain from ever calling me "boy" again and assuming someone is emotional when they are not.

I know this is a really hard question to answer for believers like you, nobody is exploiting you personally per-se.

What we are exploiting is your lack of true Revelation knowledge that the God of the universe loves you and wants to have intimate loving relationship with you. He does not want you to keep your passions in check because of a stony heart of required obligation or else you will suffer his wrath and judgement. He wants you to keep your passions in check out of love for what he did for you by sending his son to die for you, was buried and then rose again and now sits at the right hand of Father.

Religion says I do for me because if I don't I will pay the price...Relationship says I do for others in love based on the Love he has for me.

When you ever get this, you will begin to walk in all the fullness God has for you.

Religion says I do for me because if I don't I will pay the price...Relationship says I do for others in love based on the Love he has for me. Suggesting that there is no such thing as good religion?

 

[eph610]

Religion says I do for me because if I don't I will pay the price...Relationship says I do for others in love based on the Love he has for me. Suggesting that there is no such thing as good religion?

Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

Religion of the pharisees is the thief that comes to steal, kill and destroy....

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

i mean in general

Because it's a big issue in society?

People professing Christianity but refusing to use their businesses(photographers, bakers, etc.) to promote fake marriage get harassed, death threats, and sued.

More and more churches are caving and accepting the perversion of same-sex "marriage".

People who disagree and/or object are considered to be homophobes, bigots, hatemongers, and trapped in archaic thinking.

No big deal, right?

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

Religion of the pharisees is the thief that comes to steal, kill and destroy....

Ah ha! There is good religion!

Wow, we agree on something!

 

[Talishi]

More and more churches are caving and accepting the perversion of same-sex "marriage".

That's entirely up to the individual churches, but the instant marriage was turned over to the state (as in "By the Power Invested in Me by the State of Washington I Now Pronounce You Man and Wife") it became vulnerable to a legal challenge under the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment of the COTUS.

 

[eph610]

That's entirely up to the individual churches, but the instant marriage was turned over to the state (as in "By the Power Invested in Me by the State of Washington I Now Pronounce You Man and Wife") it became vulnerable to a legal challenge under the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment of the COTUS.

I totally agree with you. I see fellow ministers getting mad at their rights being taken away, but failed to see they gave up the right when they got ordained and went and registered with the state to be able to do weddings and funerals...

These might be the same ones that think their 501 3 c status is never going away either.

 

[eph610]

Because it's a big issue in society?

People professing Christianity but refusing to use their businesses(photographers, bakers, etc.) to promote fake marriage get harassed, death threats, and sued.

More and more churches are caving and accepting the perversion of same-sex "marriage".

People who disagree and/or object are considered to be homophobes, bigots, hatemongers, and trapped in archaic thinking.

No big deal, right?

It should not a be a big be deal that we are called names. Jesus said they would do this and worse.

Wait until they take the 501 3 c status away from churches and ministries that will prove real quick who will endure until the end.

There is time coming here, in the USA, where Pastors will be pulled out of their churches and shot on site for preaching truth.

If a Son or Daughter in the USA think they have equal protection under the law and should have special religious rights you are delusional. We are going to be going down the road we read about in the Bible and certain history books.

The church in the USA needs a wake up call, most of them think persecution is Kim Davis style stupidity, getting their gun rights taken away and being forced to bake a cake for the Gay couple down the road.

By and Large the church in the USA has no clue what is most likely coming down to them.

 

[Talishi]

Wait until they take the 501 3 c status away from churches and ministries that will prove real quick who will endure until the end.

Hebrews 12:4 Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.