"Whatever you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven".
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Church leaders have authority to bind (forbid) or to loose (permit) certain practices according to their understanding of God's word, and they can excommunicate those who willfully disobey their teachings.
Some denominations forbid watching TV, celebrating Christmas, forbid women from cutting their hair, etc, while others permit occasional adultery (e.g.: once a year is OK), permit divorce apart from adultery, permit baby baptism, etc.
To what extent such permissions and prohibitions will be accepted in Heaven?
Some denominations forbid watching TV, celebrating Christmas, forbid women from cutting their hair, etc, while others permit occasional adultery (e.g.: once a year is OK), permit divorce apart from adultery, permit baby baptism, etc.
To what extent such permissions and prohibitions will be accepted in Heaven?
OK, we have His word, the Bible, but Jesus gave authority to church leaders to forbid (bind) and permit (loose) certains practices. For example: The Bible doesn't say anything about contraceptives, so modern day church leaders are expected to permit or forbid their use. If the leaders of one denomination permit the use of contraceptives, and the leaders of another forbid them, will both decisions be accepted in Heaven?
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Matthew: 18. 15. Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
18. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
21. Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22. Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
18. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
19. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
21. Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22. Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
I've always believed what you guys believe, but now I have doubts about it. See the text below:
http://www.bibleissues.org/bindloose.html
Why did Jesus use the words “bind and loose”? Scholars believe that Jesus was using the same language as the Jewish Rabbis, where they understood the terms “bind and loose” in a very specific manner, and differently from modern day Charismatics. The Jewish Rabbis used the term “bind” to mean forbid or to impose an obligation. “Loose” meant to permit or to remove an obligation. Some schools of Rabbis were more liberal than others, so they “loosed” the people from the obligations to which the other schools had “bound” them.
How did the apostles understand Jesus’ teaching? A good example is Acts 15:20, where they forbade the gentiles from eating foods offered to idols and from fornication, but removed the obligation for them to follow the law of Moses. This is what binding and loosing refer to, and it often pertained to matters of church doctrine and practice. This is very different from the modern Charismatic interpretation.
So, church leaders have authority to forbid or permit certain practices. For example: Young members of my church are taught that masturbation is not a sin (but should be avoided). Other denominations, however, teach that masturbation is indeed a sin. So, my question remains: Will both of these opposed teachings be accepted in Heaven?
http://www.bibleissues.org/bindloose.html
Why did Jesus use the words “bind and loose”? Scholars believe that Jesus was using the same language as the Jewish Rabbis, where they understood the terms “bind and loose” in a very specific manner, and differently from modern day Charismatics. The Jewish Rabbis used the term “bind” to mean forbid or to impose an obligation. “Loose” meant to permit or to remove an obligation. Some schools of Rabbis were more liberal than others, so they “loosed” the people from the obligations to which the other schools had “bound” them.
How did the apostles understand Jesus’ teaching? A good example is Acts 15:20, where they forbade the gentiles from eating foods offered to idols and from fornication, but removed the obligation for them to follow the law of Moses. This is what binding and loosing refer to, and it often pertained to matters of church doctrine and practice. This is very different from the modern Charismatic interpretation.
So, church leaders have authority to forbid or permit certain practices. For example: Young members of my church are taught that masturbation is not a sin (but should be avoided). Other denominations, however, teach that masturbation is indeed a sin. So, my question remains: Will both of these opposed teachings be accepted in Heaven?
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You are wrong. The binding and loosing is the Gospel, the Scriptures. If we withhold the Word, we "bind on earth". if we give the Word, we loose on earth. Also no person and no individual church has the keys to the exclusion of all other believers.
Why is it we have so many people misinterpreting the Scriptures just to Puff themselves us with Pride?
Marcelo you are very wrong on this point.
Why is it we have so many people misinterpreting the Scriptures just to Puff themselves us with Pride?
Marcelo you are very wrong on this point.
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Jesus was talking to His disciples and they established what was bound and what was lose in their teachings .. their letters.. They where guided by the Holy Spirit in their writings and thus whilst they where the hands that delivered the Word of God it was the Holy Spirit that was guiding them and was binding and loosing..
Jesus was talking to His disciples and they established what was bound and what was lose in their teachings .. their letters.. They where guided by the Holy Spirit in their writings and thus whilst they where the hands that delivered the Word of God it was the Holy Spirit that was guiding them and was binding and loosing..
I have no idea what you mean by "teachings be accepted in Heaven".
People are going to be accepted on ONE basis only into Heaven and that is if they had Faith in trusting in the blood of Christ, acknowledge Him as Lord, and His resurrection from the dead.
As for teaching teens whether masturbation is sinful, is missing the mark. If we are Christ- centered instead of sin- centered, we don't have to worry about masturbation, or drugs, or drunkenness, or theft, lying, gossip, or fill in the blank.
People are going to be accepted on ONE basis only into Heaven and that is if they had Faith in trusting in the blood of Christ, acknowledge Him as Lord, and His resurrection from the dead.
As for teaching teens whether masturbation is sinful, is missing the mark. If we are Christ- centered instead of sin- centered, we don't have to worry about masturbation, or drugs, or drunkenness, or theft, lying, gossip, or fill in the blank.
I looked at this scripture in the Greek. I find the verb tenses fascinating in Greek as they convey so much more then our modern English tenses do.
It doesn't say that whatever we bind on earth shall be bound in heaven - in relation to what "we do exclusively" will be bound in heaven just because we say it - as if that is the full extent of this verse. ( and the same goes for whatever is allowed, untied or loosed, set free )
The "shall be bound" ( and shall be loosed ) in heaven is in the perfect tense which means that something has happened in the past and it is in a completed state and is continuously happening in the present.
The New American Standard translation brings this out.
Matthew 18:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.
This indicates that what we bind, retain or forbid on this earth has already been bound, retained or forbid in heaven. We are simply agreeing on earth with already "is" in heaven. ( same idea for "loose" )
I agree with Ariel too in that this verse is primarily to do with dealings amongst people in the church setting but the basic principle of binding things on earth that already have been bound in heaven is still in effect in many areas of truth.
It doesn't say that whatever we bind on earth shall be bound in heaven - in relation to what "we do exclusively" will be bound in heaven just because we say it - as if that is the full extent of this verse. ( and the same goes for whatever is allowed, untied or loosed, set free )
The "shall be bound" ( and shall be loosed ) in heaven is in the perfect tense which means that something has happened in the past and it is in a completed state and is continuously happening in the present.
The New American Standard translation brings this out.
Matthew 18:18 (NASB)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.
This indicates that what we bind, retain or forbid on this earth has already been bound, retained or forbid in heaven. We are simply agreeing on earth with already "is" in heaven. ( same idea for "loose" )
I agree with Ariel too in that this verse is primarily to do with dealings amongst people in the church setting but the basic principle of binding things on earth that already have been bound in heaven is still in effect in many areas of truth.
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Luke: 17. 1. Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! 2. It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. 3. Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
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Matthew: 5. 22. But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23. Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24. Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. 25. Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26. Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
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Ummm, I am going to pray that God gives me the right words to convey what it means to bind things on earth and heaven, but if I fail place the blame on me and I will try and clarify.
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When someone sins against us (for example falsely accuse us or slander us.), we have a choice to forgive them and out of love confront them or turn them over to the judge. We are told to attempt to make peace. However, if the person does not repent and continues to attack, we can pray and have them bound spiritually from having access to the Spirit realm and playing with the demons or continuing to falsely accuse the brethren.
When men mistreat their wives, their prayers are hindered.
When we know we have offended someone, we are told to ask forgiveness and make amends before offering anything to God.
We should all pray that God keep us from offenses and reveal if we hurt others with our words or actions and make amends when needed so that we are not put in chains or bound by pride, selfishness, greed or any other traps.
I don't think those scriptures have anything to do with denominations or rules or laws. We don't make the laws, God does. This denominations don't get a vote.
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When someone sins against us (for example falsely accuse us or slander us.), we have a choice to forgive them and out of love confront them or turn them over to the judge. We are told to attempt to make peace. However, if the person does not repent and continues to attack, we can pray and have them bound spiritually from having access to the Spirit realm and playing with the demons or continuing to falsely accuse the brethren.
When men mistreat their wives, their prayers are hindered.
When we know we have offended someone, we are told to ask forgiveness and make amends before offering anything to God.
We should all pray that God keep us from offenses and reveal if we hurt others with our words or actions and make amends when needed so that we are not put in chains or bound by pride, selfishness, greed or any other traps.
I don't think those scriptures have anything to do with denominations or rules or laws. We don't make the laws, God does. This denominations don't get a vote.
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