Silver platter christians?

[Yet]

My life has been a life of NO! I wanted to have a gospel band with harmony. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to publish my songs. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to 'pastor' as that is defined by the church. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to be an evangelist. God said NO, not going to happen.

So i staid in the factory jobs. Each birthday would go by. I'd pray 'Lord, i'm 25 now. I'm not getting any younger. When will you open my doors?'

Then 26, then 27, then 28, then 29. I'd see others get saved and then in a couple of years they are pastoring or one thing or another while God would keep me grinding away in the heat of a factory. Feeling year after year that i was being totally over looked by God, ignored. But i kept serving Him and trusting Him anyhow....in pain. Was there any other option? No.

One brother told me if he'd gone through what we'd gone through, he would have given up on God long ago.

I Told him that that's never been an option. So we trudged on.

Then i turned 30 and prayed the same prayer 'Lord, how much longer before we get to have a minstry like everyone else. I'm not getting any younger Lord'.

Then 31, then 32, then 40, then 45, then 50, then 55, then 60. I'm now 66. But now get it. Actually i figured things out at the age of 40. I knew we'd always be despised and rejected by churchians, especially the wolves in charge.

God kept us from 'making it' with the organised 'church'.....for good reason. See my threads.

For the past 15 years or so signs of the 'great apostasy' were getting clearer and more pronounced.

I could catalogue a very long list here but you need to do a google search on the 'falling away' of christendom.

A little bit of evidence.

The Hill Song Church singers that i thought the music and harmonies were awesome, and hurt that i could not have a gospel band.
Well they had everything handed to them on a silver platter and today they are bowing their knees to the pope, to islam, and to sodomy.

I could list the christian music artists that are going 'new age', bowing to Rome, and sodomy but i'll just mention a couple. The big one who had everything handed to him on a silver platter...Ray Boltz, out of the closet homo.

Michael W. Smith, bowing to the harlot of Rome with some new age sprinkled in. Everything handed to him on a silver platter, filling auditoriums at his 'awsome' concerts.

Preacher after preacher now bowing to the harlot with the one world church, many free masons and luciferians like Copeland and Graham. The list gors on about thrse satanic plants that were there to undermine the faith of many.

All these 41 years of trying to figure out why God would not allow me to excel in any form of ministry but kept me and my wife totally isolated and away from churchianity and all the foolishness and sin.

So now we see. My ministry is to SOUND THE ALARM, a watchman on the wall. Even our movie being despised by pastors and christians.

But today i rejoice with much thanksgiving to our Jesus for keeping us separated from all the corruption and apostasy.

You guys need to start googling some of this stuff. See: apostasy watch and apostasy now. Grow some clues about what's going on just before the return of Christ. Do you want to get this thing figured out before or after the rapture?

Like i said i could list the satanic garbage that so called christian pastors are leading the flock into but then most of you would just chew me out.

Actually this thread is NOT for those who malign me and His word on this but for the 'truth seekers', the humble that feel something is out of kilter, helter skelter with organised religion.

Yes i can talk about the kindness of God toward us on one hand but detail the the satanic inroads in the church on the other hand. His kindness is to open our eyes and warn us of these things.

So i humbly rejoice that i was not 'born again' with a silver spoon in my mouth or a silver platter on my lap. Thank-You Jesus.

 

[Grace777x70]

Yet...why don't you preach Christ instead of tearing down fellow Christians. Are you so perfect that it is ok for you to bash and rip apart others in the body of Christ now because they don't conform or believe exactly what you do?

This is NOT a ministry of the Holy Spirit that you are doing. It's a perversion of what your real ministry is in the Lord. I encourage you to seek the Lord on exactly what that is as it is certainly NOT want you continually are doing now.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Poor, poor Yet. Father in Heaven did not give you what you wanted. Instead Father chastened you in order that you might yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness.

Waaah waaah!

You focus attention on yourself.

You focus attention on the worldly church.

I agree with Grace 777x70

This is NOT a ministry of the Holy Spirit that you are doing. It's a perversion of what your real ministry is in the Lord. I encourage you to seek the Lord on exactly what that is as it is certainly NOT want you continually are doing now.

When are you going to enjoy the high calling of God in Christ Jesus and simply preach the gospel???

 

[trofimus]

My life has been a life of NO! I wanted to have a gospel band with harmony. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to publish my songs. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to 'pastor' as that is defined by the church. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to be an evangelist. God said NO, not going to happen.

So i staid in the factory jobs. Each birthday would go by. I'd pray 'Lord, i'm 25 now. I'm not getting any younger. When will you open my doors?'

Then 26, then 27, then 28, then 29. I'd see others get saved and then in a couple of years they are pastoring or one thing or another while God would keep me grinding away in the heat of a factory. Feeling year after year that i was being totally over looked by God, ignored. But i kept serving Him and trusting Him anyhow....in pain. Was there any other option? No.

One brother told me if he'd gone through what we'd gone through, he would have given up on God long ago.

I Told him that that's never been an option. So we trudged on.

Then i turned 30 and prayed the same prayer 'Lord, how much longer before we get to have a minstry like everyone else. I'm not getting any younger Lord'.

Then 31, then 32, then 40, then 45, then 50, then 55, then 60. I'm now 66. But now get it. Actually i figured things out at the age of 40. I knew we'd always be despised and rejected by churchians, especially the wolves in charge.

God kept us from 'making it' with the organised 'church'.....for good reason. See my threads.

For the past 15 years or so signs of the 'great apostasy' were getting clearer and more pronounced.

I could catalogue a very long list here but you need to do a google search on the 'falling away' of christendom.

A little bit of evidence.

The Hill Song Church singers that i thought the music and harmonies were awesome, and hurt that i could not have a gospel band.
Well they had everything handed to them on a silver platter and today they are bowing their knees to the pope, to islam, and to sodomy.

I could list the christian music artists that are going 'new age', bowing to Rome, and sodomy but i'll just mention a couple. The big one who had everything handed to him on a silver platter...Ray Boltz, out of the closet homo.

Michael W. Smith, bowing to the harlot of Rome with some new age sprinkled in. Everything handed to him on a silver platter, filling auditoriums at his 'awsome' concerts.

Preacher after preacher now bowing to the harlot with the one world church, many free masons and luciferians like Copeland and Graham. The list gors on about thrse satanic plants that were there to undermine the faith of many.

All these 41 years of trying to figure out why God would not allow me to excel in any form of ministry but kept me and my wife totally isolated and away from churchianity and all the foolishness and sin.

So now we see. My ministry is to SOUND THE ALARM, a watchman on the wall. Even our movie being despised by pastors and christians.

But today i rejoice with much thanksgiving to our Jesus for keeping us separated from all the corruption and apostasy.

You guys need to start googling some of this stuff. See: apostasy watch and apostasy now. Grow some clues about what's going on just before the return of Christ. Do you want to get this thing figured out before or after the rapture?

Like i said i could list the satanic garbage that so called christian pastors are leading the flock into but then most of you would just chew me out.

Actually this thread is NOT for those who malign me and His word on this but for the 'truth seekers', the humble that feel something is out of kilter, helter skelter with organised religion.

Yes i can talk about the kindness of God toward us on one hand but detail the the satanic inroads in the church on the other hand. His kindness is to open our eyes and warn us of these things.

So i humbly rejoice that i was not 'born again' with a silver spoon in my mouth or a silver platter on my lap. Thank-You Jesus.

You may have heard many "NO" in your life, but you can hear "YES" when you will get to heaven.

 

[mpaper345]

So God kept you out of mainstream so called Christianity,so you that there would not be the possibility that you would become corrupt along with them.Sounds reasonable,like Paul was given a thorn in the flesh,to keep him humble,lest he should be exalted above measure,because of all the revelations God showed him,and I heard one Church group say,along with the Churches with them,say that they do not want to be on television,for the ones on there gave the Church a black eye,so some people say that they do not want to associate with certain people,for then it would make them look bad,and it could appear that the ones that do not enter ministry might have the best affect on people,for people are tired of listening to the so called preachers.

Like the antichrist appearing on Tuesday,and the rapture happening before that,and there they do it again making Christianity look like a farce,and it is true that people that claim to be Christ,there is a lot of relaxation in their walk with God,and hypocrisy,and material things,and money,and ways of the world,but I suppose it would be that way today,with all the different denominations saying different things,for if they cannot agree with each other concerning the Bible they claim,then there would be a whole lot of hypocrites,for there is a whole lot of fleshiness happening among them,for if they were all led of the Spirit,there would not be divisions like that.

 

[CeileDe]

My life has been a life of NO! I wanted to have a gospel band with harmony. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to publish my songs. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to 'pastor' as that is defined by the church. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to be an evangelist. God said NO, not going to happen.

So i staid in the factory jobs. Each birthday would go by. I'd pray 'Lord, i'm 25 now. I'm not getting any younger. When will you open my doors?'

Then 26, then 27, then 28, then 29. I'd see others get saved and then in a couple of years they are pastoring or one thing or another while God would keep me grinding away in the heat of a factory. Feeling year after year that i was being totally over looked by God, ignored. But i kept serving Him and trusting Him anyhow....in pain. Was there any other option? No.

One brother told me if he'd gone through what we'd gone through, he would have given up on God long ago.

I Told him that that's never been an option. So we trudged on.

Then i turned 30 and prayed the same prayer 'Lord, how much longer before we get to have a minstry like everyone else. I'm not getting any younger Lord'.

Then 31, then 32, then 40, then 45, then 50, then 55, then 60. I'm now 66. But now get it. Actually i figured things out at the age of 40. I knew we'd always be despised and rejected by churchians, especially the wolves in charge.

God kept us from 'making it' with the organised 'church'.....for good reason. See my threads.

For the past 15 years or so signs of the 'great apostasy' were getting clearer and more pronounced.

I could catalogue a very long list here but you need to do a google search on the 'falling away' of christendom.

A little bit of evidence.

The Hill Song Church singers that i thought the music and harmonies were awesome, and hurt that i could not have a gospel band.
Well they had everything handed to them on a silver platter and today they are bowing their knees to the pope, to islam, and to sodomy.

I could list the christian music artists that are going 'new age', bowing to Rome, and sodomy but i'll just mention a couple. The big one who had everything handed to him on a silver platter...Ray Boltz, out of the closet homo.

Michael W. Smith, bowing to the harlot of Rome with some new age sprinkled in. Everything handed to him on a silver platter, filling auditoriums at his 'awsome' concerts.

Preacher after preacher now bowing to the harlot with the one world church, many free masons and luciferians like Copeland and Graham. The list gors on about thrse satanic plants that were there to undermine the faith of many.

All these 41 years of trying to figure out why God would not allow me to excel in any form of ministry but kept me and my wife totally isolated and away from churchianity and all the foolishness and sin.

So now we see. My ministry is to SOUND THE ALARM, a watchman on the wall. Even our movie being despised by pastors and christians.

But today i rejoice with much thanksgiving to our Jesus for keeping us separated from all the corruption and apostasy.

You guys need to start googling some of this stuff. See: apostasy watch and apostasy now. Grow some clues about what's going on just before the return of Christ. Do you want to get this thing figured out before or after the rapture?

Like i said i could list the satanic garbage that so called christian pastors are leading the flock into but then most of you would just chew me out.

Actually this thread is NOT for those who malign me and His word on this but for the 'truth seekers', the humble that feel something is out of kilter, helter skelter with organised religion.

Yes i can talk about the kindness of God toward us on one hand but detail the the satanic inroads in the church on the other hand. His kindness is to open our eyes and warn us of these things.

So i humbly rejoice that i was not 'born again' with a silver spoon in my mouth or a silver platter on my lap. Thank-You Jesus.

Hi Yet. You sound very bitter toward God. You claim it is the church you are against but in reality it is God. Your first statements are how God didn't allow you to do this or that. So instead of being mad at God you take it out on the church.

I can agree with you that a lot of church's have really gotten away from the true message but that doesn't mean they all are. You wanted to be in a band but since you couldn't you hate on other people who have made this their career. I was just worshiping yesterday while driving back home to music by Michael W Smith, "Mighty to Save."

Maybe God told you no to a lot of things because of your bitterness and He knew you wouldn't be up for the task.

God is still in the Church; you are just too bitter to see it. Maybe you should be like Abraham and keep on pushing God to spare His people instead of condemning them. You could be that watcher on the hill saying to God, "What if there is 1 would you still destroy the church.?" I suggest you focus on the Love part instead of the condemnation part and you might find there is more in the Church who honor God than you think.

 

[pottersclay]

Yet, finally I get some scope of what you have been through and feel that maybe my experiences can help shine a light on yours.
The Lord's word and love pricked my heart so deep that all I wanted to do was to serve him in the capacity of what I thought to be the highest form...(in the church for the assembly). My attendance of church was 5days a week with studies and worship. I was a common face there for yrs. I was placed on consideration of deacon at one time, lifted up in prayers by the assembly and elders but no was the reply. That sorta hurt but hey never deterred me.
A few more nos and I wondered what was going on. The Lord had me start a bible study which grew from 2couples to 15 couples out of this were about 20 saved to this day. The Lord opened a door for my wife and I to purchase our first home, I passed the mantle after much prayer to a brother who is now a youth pastor in the church...why not me Lord I wondered. A brother in the Lord showed me a passage in scripture that Paul talked about its not good to add on to another's ministry. In other words there were no openings in the church for what I wanted but there is a ministry that the Lord needed me to do...the ministry of a God fearing husband, father, g-pa, neighbor and friend. Which I may add takes up all my time. Love it. I have grown in knowledge, in his grace, and have a huge prayer life. I am content.
Imo the unseen ministries are just as powerful, I pray for the leadership of the church not against. I thank God for the prayer warriors the faithful moms and dads the street preachers. In short the saints I have been blessed to know.
It seems your a victim of you circumstance, a pastor is not above the parking lot greeter, nor the elder above the street preacher. As you experienced the Lord placed you where he wanted you. It isn't the fault of the pastor , if God wanted you there you would be there. So stop the finger pointing out of jealousy and get down to work to pray against the attacks on the church.



Peace

 

[Fenner]

I just want to tell you that most people who are where they are have worked incredibly hard to get there. Yes some people have had things handed to them. But most of us have had to work hard to be where we are. I'm not rich or famous, I didn't finish college because I had no direction and ran out of money but I don't begrudge my friend's that have great high paying jobs. I know what they went through to get there and many still continue their education to keep up with what they're doing.


I know the names of the people you mentioned, other than that I know nothing about them. You sound bitter, I'm sorry to be harsh. Just because your gospel group isn't making record after record doesn't mean you can't share your gift with others. Nursing homes enjoy gospel music. Write music for your group, share it with those in your community. Study the bible in your home with friends and family. You don't need a huge following to do what you want to do.

I waitressed for year's, I didn't love it but it provided for me. I changed jobs and worked at a desk all day at an Insurance company, that job made me wish I didn't stop waitressing. Sitting all day is not my thing. I then moved on and became an Optcian and enjoyed it, had my babies, now I work as a teachers aide. My Husband has a degree in statistics, he's a mailman. So much for that working out, but oh well, he has a good job and we're so thankful. I know so many people who witness to others that aren't looking to be famous they just want to help. My brother in law has worked as a welder for year's, horrible heat, heavy equipment, does what he has to do goes and helps others at AA meetings. He'll never be famous, who cares. Just do what God calls you to do and don't worry what the famous people are doing. God Bless you

 

[Utah]

I wanted to be a minister, preaching on Sundays and strengthening people's faith in Christ, but it's my propensity to be abrasively straightforward that prevented my church ministry. God knows best.

 

[Fenner]

I want to apologize for saying you sound bitter Yet, that wasn't nice, I'm sorry.

 

[PennEd]

I feel bad for Yet. I really do. I don't think he is able to see just how bitter and full of jealousy his post is.

Serving the Lord means doing it in LOVE! How can naming actual individuals, most of which have made incredibly beautiful music praising our Lord, as following satan be something done in love?

How can you be this blind? EVEN IF, AND IT ISN'T, TRUE, how is this spreading the Gospel and Love of Jesus Christ?

 

[Yet]

Remember now. I said this thread, like most of mine, are not for everybody. Wish it was.

 

[posthuman]

A Fox one day spied a beautiful bunch of ripe grapes hanging from a vine trained along the branches of a tree. The grapes seemed ready to burst with juice, and the Fox's mouth watered as he gazed longingly at them.
The bunch hung from a high branch, and the Fox had to jump for it. The first time he jumped he missed it by a long way. So he walked off a short distance and took a running leap at it, only to fall short once more. Again and again he tried, but in vain.
Now he sat down and looked at the grapes in disgust.
"What a fool I am," he said. "Here I am wearing myself out to get a bunch of sour grapes that are not worth gaping for."
And off he walked very, very scornfully.

- Aesop

 

[jenniferand2]

My life has been a life of NO! I wanted to have a gospel band with harmony. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to publish my songs. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to 'pastor' as that is defined by the church. God said NO, not going to happen.

I wanted to be an evangelist. God said NO, not going to happen.

So i staid in the factory jobs. Each birthday would go by. I'd pray 'Lord, i'm 25 now. I'm not getting any younger. When will you open my doors?'

Then 26, then 27, then 28, then 29. I'd see others get saved and then in a couple of years they are pastoring or one thing or another while God would keep me grinding away in the heat of a factory. Feeling year after year that i was being totally over looked by God, ignored. But i kept serving Him and trusting Him anyhow....in pain. Was there any other option? No.

One brother told me if he'd gone through what we'd gone through, he would have given up on God long ago.

I Told him that that's never been an option. So we trudged on.

Then i turned 30 and prayed the same prayer 'Lord, how much longer before we get to have a minstry like everyone else. I'm not getting any younger Lord'.

Then 31, then 32, then 40, then 45, then 50, then 55, then 60. I'm now 66. But now get it. Actually i figured things out at the age of 40. I knew we'd always be despised and rejected by churchians, especially the wolves in charge.

God kept us from 'making it' with the organised 'church'.....for good reason. See my threads.

For the past 15 years or so signs of the 'great apostasy' were getting clearer and more pronounced.

I could catalogue a very long list here but you need to do a google search on the 'falling away' of christendom.

A little bit of evidence.

The Hill Song Church singers that i thought the music and harmonies were awesome, and hurt that i could not have a gospel band.
Well they had everything handed to them on a silver platter and today they are bowing their knees to the pope, to islam, and to sodomy.

I could list the christian music artists that are going 'new age', bowing to Rome, and sodomy but i'll just mention a couple. The big one who had everything handed to him on a silver platter...Ray Boltz, out of the closet homo.

Michael W. Smith, bowing to the harlot of Rome with some new age sprinkled in. Everything handed to him on a silver platter, filling auditoriums at his 'awsome' concerts.

Preacher after preacher now bowing to the harlot with the one world church, many free masons and luciferians like Copeland and Graham. The list gors on about thrse satanic plants that were there to undermine the faith of many.

All these 41 years of trying to figure out why God would not allow me to excel in any form of ministry but kept me and my wife totally isolated and away from churchianity and all the foolishness and sin.

So now we see. My ministry is to SOUND THE ALARM, a watchman on the wall. Even our movie being despised by pastors and christians.

But today i rejoice with much thanksgiving to our Jesus for keeping us separated from all the corruption and apostasy.

You guys need to start googling some of this stuff. See: apostasy watch and apostasy now. Grow some clues about what's going on just before the return of Christ. Do you want to get this thing figured out before or after the rapture?

Like i said i could list the satanic garbage that so called christian pastors are leading the flock into but then most of you would just chew me out.

Actually this thread is NOT for those who malign me and His word on this but for the 'truth seekers', the humble that feel something is out of kilter, helter skelter with organised religion.

Yes i can talk about the kindness of God toward us on one hand but detail the the satanic inroads in the church on the other hand. His kindness is to open our eyes and warn us of these things.

So i humbly rejoice that i was not 'born again' with a silver spoon in my mouth or a silver platter on my lap. Thank-You Jesus.

Yet please go into more detail about modern day preachers and why you think they are spilling out satanic
ideology

 

[CeileDe]

So Yet, I went to a couple of your links and have a question. Doesn't God call us to make disciples? So if you are promoting hate and contention in the church; how are you making disciples? Do you belong to a church that you attend daily or weekly?

 

[Marcelo]

Yet, apart from what you say I don't know how things stand in American churches, but with regard to my country, what you say is at least 90% true - there is a lot of apostasy.

Just for you to have an idea, a friend of mine is taught, in his Baptist home church, that Christians can commit adultery once in a while and still be saved. Thank God we still have some 10% of reliable churches.

We must be simple as doves and wise as serpents.

 

[CeileDe]

Yet, apart from what you say I don't know how things stand in American churches, but with regard to my country, what you say is at least 90% true - there is a lot of apostasy.

Just for you to have an idea, a friend of mine is taught, in his Baptist home church, that Christians can commit adultery once in a while and still be saved. Thank God we still have some 10% of reliable churches.

We must be simple as doves and wise as serpents.

So you are saying that when someone sins they lose their salvation?

 

[Dan_473]

Hi Yet,

I encourage you to join a Christian fellowship of some kind... "building" church or "house" church... being a Lone Ranger Christian isn't healthy.

 

[3putter]

How do we know it was God saying no? Maybe it was. Maybe He was protecting His Church?

 

[Yet]

My testimony totally supports my thesis that the organized 'church' is not lined up with the word of God. See my threads. See sites below.

If it was, my ministry and functions and gifts would have been realized decades ago along with everyone elses gifts and fubctions in the congregation, that have been squelched and shut down, not allowed to surface. How exactly to the point is that?

I have the word to back me up and a 41 year testimony proving the apostate condition of a hirelng run religious system. I care not whose holy feathers i ruffle. Why do you suppose 11 apostles, Jesus, and Paul, not to mention an untold number of christians down to this century have been murdered? I'll give you 3 guesses. They ruffled feathers.