Workers of "iniquity" (KJV), a Word Study!

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Some gentlemen here try to describe the term "lawless" or "lawlessness" as those who are trying to keep God's law.

Cleary, any child can see that "law-less" is being without law.
We will look at one passage and do the word study for "lawlessness", in Matthew 7.23

The KJV uses the word "iniquity" here, where some versions used the word "lawlessness".
Either way, we will look at the Greek for further study.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work *iniquity.
Matthew 7:23 (KJV, MBM)

*iniquity (ESV "lawlessness")
G458 anomia (an-om-ee'-ah) n. 1. illegality, i.e. violation of law
2. (genitive case) wickedness
Root: G459, not subject to (Jewish) law.

So, by some people's teachings, the person referred to in Mat 7.23 is the guy trying to keep the law.
But that teaching is false. It is a twisting, or turning upside-down of the text.

We have been tricked by false teaching long enough.

 
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Again you fail to "see Christ" in your fleshly attempts to keep the Law and you do not understand what the commandments are in the New Covenant.

John tells us exactly what the commandments are in the New Covenant and they are indeed not burdensome. He told us what the commandments were just before he said the commandments of God are not burdensome.

1 John 3:23 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

You continually reject the work of Christ to try to establish your own D.I.Y. righteousness/holiness. This rejection of the Son of God's work on the cross is called "lawlessness". This is an anti-Christ belief system.

Come out of your attempts of law-keeping and come to Christ's sacrifice for you. The Law is a mere shadow of the real thing - which is Christ Himself in us.

You are worshipping a shadow instead of the Lord Himself. You are breaking the very first commandment that you are attempting to live by and it is "lawlessness".
 
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you see what this verse teaches, yet you still copy/paste your pastor's teaching.
 
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Who is sinning? Lawlessness as seen in Matt. 7:15-23 are those that depend on their own works for salvation. No one is going to fall for your anti-Christ religion here. That is the lawlessness in action - law-keepers denying the Lord Jesus Christ for another gospel.

Law-keepers are the ones who are being lawless by their continual attempts at law-keeping which they break constantly in their attempt at their D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness which is why this religion you are espousing is anti-Christ.

Those in Matt.7:15-23 were saying to the Lord "Lord, didn't "we do" this and that"...all good works but Jesus never knew them at all. They were Christ-less in their doing of good deeds.

Lawlessness is not becoming obedient to the faith of Jesus Christ and His finished work.

Lawlessness is not believing in the Father's New Covenant commands which are clearly here in 1 John 3:23

1 John 3:23 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

There has been enough said in this thread to reveal this anti-Christ belief system religion that you are trying to cause people to desert Christ for. ( Gal.1:6 ) The young saints have been warned about this religion and the Holy Spirit will watch over them to protect them from this religion which is anti-Christ.

Come to Christ disciplemike - He is your only hope for true life and salvation.
 
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Lawlessness is seeking to replace God and His activity with your own activity. Where we see lawlessness is in those who set the Law loose from its moorings in the activity of God by substituting their own activity for His.

Now who here do we see doing that??
 

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you see what this verse teaches, yet you still copy/paste your pastor's teaching.
there are so many verses in the N.T. about NOT being under the law, one should not try to isolate verses, and one should not read the Bible with a agenda in place. ( Hebrew roots garbage )
 
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Some gentlemen here try to describe the term "lawless" or "lawlessness" as those who are trying to keep God's law.

Cleary, any child can see that "law-less" is being without law.
We will look at one passage and do the word study for "lawlessness", in Matthew 7.23

The KJV uses the word "iniquity" here, where some versions used the word "lawlessness".
Either way, we will look at the Greek for further study.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work *iniquity.
Matthew 7:23 (KJV, MBM)

*iniquity (ESV "lawlessness")
G458 anomia (an-om-ee'-ah) n. 1. illegality, i.e. violation of law
2. (genitive case) wickedness
Root: G459, not subject to (Jewish) law.

So, by some people's teachings, the person referred to in Mat 7.23 is the guy trying to keep the law.
But that teaching is false. It is a twisting, or turning upside-down of the text.

We have been tricked by false teaching long enough.

interesting since you are teaching a complete foolish and non-biblical course of actions

lawlessness does NOT mean a disrespect for the commandments of God

first of all, no one responding to you disrespects the commandments of God

you lie every single time you say such nonsense

the Bible refers to the man of lawlessness....and that is a specific being...not a general statement regarding your non-gospel teaching

the way you twist the scriptures is beyond the rational thoughts of any person educated enough to read
 
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The Man of Lawlessness
2 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, 2not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.

3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness2 is revealed, the son of destruction,3 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.

9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

11 ThereforeGod sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

II Thessalonians
 
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Some gentlemen here try to describe the term "lawless" or "lawlessness" as those who are trying to keep God's law.
It’s trying to keep it in respect to something we can do as a wonderful work of one’s own self.. God is not served by human hands. The man in your example was a Judaizer. He opposed Christianity.

He was under the impression his flesh could profit. Christ called him a worker of iniquity. He made the law of God’s faith without effect having Christ’s work of faith in respect to his own self. We can see Christ did not tell him no you did not perform what he claimed just that it had nothing to with him but did have to do with God who alone moves men and does not share the glory of inspiring them with them. That kind of idea comes from self-righteousness.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work *iniquity.Matthew 7:23 (KJV, MBM)

You have been tricked by false teaching long enough.
 
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It’s trying to keep it in respect to something we can do as a wonderful work of one’s own self.. God is not served by human hands. The man in your example was a Judaizer. He opposed Christianity.

He was under the impression his flesh could profit. Christ called him a worker of iniquity. He made the law of God’s faith without effect having Christ’s work of faith in respect to his own self. We can see Christ did not tell him no you did not perform what he claimed just that it had nothing to with him but did have to do with God who alone moves men and does not share the glory of inspiring them with them. That kind of idea comes from self-righteousness.

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work *iniquity.Matthew 7:23 (KJV, MBM)

You have been tricked by false teaching long enough.
another passport checker at the pearly gates

you people have absolutely no authority whatsoever

you just gas on and on and on act like you are special

yet I tell you, my name is engraved on the palms of the One I love!
 
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And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of *lawlessness.’Matthew 7:23 (ESV2011, MBM)
*lawlessness = G458, anomia (an-om-ee'-ah) n.

1. illegality, i.e. violation of law


 
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another passport checker at the pearly gates

you people have absolutely no authority whatsoever

you just gas on and on and on act like you are special

yet I tell you, my name is engraved on the palms of the One I love!
LOL And you gas on and on as if you are not special as a sinner saved by grace?

The Spirit of Christ, called the Holy Ghost does all the passport checking at the pearly gates.

Christians have the power authority of God in these earthen bodies of clay (bodies of death) it is after no man.

2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.



All of his born again children are special .Out of all the sinners in the whole world he has written the name of us from the foundation of the world in the lambs book of eternal life. He was slain from the foundation of the world on the last day (7th) he did work he rested. It is the rest we do have from our own works. He outwardly demonstrated the finished spiritual work of pouring out His Spirit (not seen) at Calvary.

I offer my private interpretation as a personal commentary just as any believer.

If there is something you do not agree with, discussing you opinion as a private interpretation would work much better in keeping the unity of the Spirit of Christ.

It would seem you are rather striking what he calls wicked fist in debate. That kind of trying to share his good will is listed with other sins. He informs us it is not the way we can believe we he will be heard on high.
 
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And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of *lawlessness.’Matthew 7:23 (ESV2011, MBM)
*lawlessness = G458, anomia (an-om-ee'-ah) n.

1. illegality, i.e. violation of law
And you are breaking the "law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus".."the law of Christ" by not believing in Christ's finished work on the cross and resurrection. This is "lawlessness" in action.

You are in disobedience to be obedient to the faith.
The faith is Christ Himself and what He has already accomplished for us.

This is why your "law-keeping" religion for life and living is anti-Christ in it's belief and this is "lawlessness".

Jesus said that "He knows His sheep." He doesn't "know" those who act independently of His finished work like in Matt.7:23 which is why He said "I never knew you".

...lawlessness is "doing good works" apart from Christ Himself and expecting to get righteousness or to be recognized by the Lord Jesus.

This is why so many Christians are standing against your anti-Christ religion.
 
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And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of *lawlessness.’Matthew 7:23 (ESV2011, MBM)
*lawlessness = G458, anomia (an-om-ee'-ah) n.

1. illegality, i.e. violation of law
I think we got that be brother Mike. Its what workers of inquity do.....work to make the grace of God in respect to the faith of God without effect.

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more "of works": otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more "grace": otherwise work is no more work.
 
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LOL And you gas on and on as if you are not special as a sinner saved by grace?

The Spirit of Christ, called the Holy Ghost does all the passport checking at the pearly gates.

Christians have the power authority of God in these earthen bodies of clay (bodies of death) it is after no man.

2Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.



All of his born again children are special .Out of all the sinners in the whole world he has written the name of us from the foundation of the world in the lambs book of eternal life. He was slain from the foundation of the world on the last day (7th) he did work he rested. It is the rest we do have from our own works. He outwardly demonstrated the finished spiritual work of pouring out His Spirit (not seen) at Calvary.

I offer my private interpretation as a personal commentary just as any believer.

If there is something you do not agree with, discussing you opinion as a private interpretation would work much better in keeping the unity of the Spirit of Christ.

It would seem you are rather striking what he calls wicked fist in debate. That kind of trying to share his good will is listed with other sins. He informs us it is not the way we can believe we he will be heard on high.
there is nothing to laugh at here

be sober, be vigilant, for your adversary the devil is like a roaring lion seeking someone to devour

and that is not a private interpretation

every single day...EVERY single day...people are being led away by a false gospel, such as the one the op is preaching

becoming Jewish in order to be saved is a FALSE gospel...in fact, it is no gospel at all

I KNOW Who has saved me and I find nothing funny in these threads whatsoever

there is no unity in a FALSE gospel and I will not pretend there is

false peace is worse then no peace

and there will be no peace between Palestine and Israel either...pray for the peace of Jerusalem, but it won't be because the US or any other nation creates a peace treaty

Jesus Christ alone is our way of peace
 
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Christians have the power authority of God in these earthen bodies of clay (bodies of death) it is after no man.
we do not possess any power whatsoever

power belongs to God's Christ and Him alone

same ole lie over and over and over again
 
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And you are breaking the "law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus".."the law of Christ" by not believing in Christ's finished work on the cross and resurrection. This is "lawlessness" in action.

lawlessness - being without law.
people who think rules do not apply.
there will be no chaos in God's Kingdom. It will have order.
 
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I think we got that be brother Mike. Its what workers of inquity do.....work to make the grace of God in respect to the faith of God without effect.

Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more "of works": otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more "grace": otherwise work is no more work.
no, no, no.
workers of lawlessness are people who do not have law, or claim the law is not for them.
it is law-less-ness.
even a child can understand.

We seek to obey God, NOT to earn salvation, but BECAUSE of salvation.
 
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no, no, no.
workers of lawlessness are people who do not have law, or claim the law is not for them.
it is law-less-ness.
even a child can understand.

We seek to obey God, NOT to earn salvation, but BECAUSE of salvation.
what YOU don't get, along with all the other things you do not 'get' is that scripture speaks specifically of the lawless one...the anti-Christ...you just ignore scripture that does not back up your opinion

YOU are actually lawless because you refute the truth and preach a false gospel...again, which is not gospel at all
 
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lawlessness - being without law.
people who think rules do not apply.
there will be no chaos in God's Kingdom. It will have order.

Yes and you pick the Law of Moses over the law of Christ's life in us in which to live and which is why your religion is anti-Christ.

You are not even Jewish for crying out loud and yet you try to make yourself Jewish by your law-keeping. It's anti-Christ as it denies the finished work of Christ.

No Christians here are going to fall for your religion. They are joined to Another - Christ Himself.