are all people that have divorced and remarried commiting sin??

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TrailofTruth

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SHE WAS A SOCIOPATHIC Narcissist, cold, cruel, jealous.
I laid it out ( my story) to hopefully serve as an object lesson to women/or men. I was a childbood abuse victim. Uncburcbed and neglected dezpite the sbow my "mother" made about being a real mother. My father died when I was 5+ and my mother remarried and encouraged my stepdad to hit me, punish and berate me. I was "her Sweetest Child" she said ( a few months before SHE died). But she spent my life mocking me, especially when I was mistreated, so for years i withdrew from contact with her malignant "love." She also encouraged my siblings and later even my few FRIENDS TO further
mistreat me. NO BIG SHOCK I MARRIED BADLY. I was so UNLOVED. JUDGE ALL YOU LIKE if that is what you REALLY need to do for you to make your faith make "sense" i.e. (my APPARENT lack of "spiritual discernment.") Every single man whom I wed CLAIMED CHRIST! AND WAS BAPTIZED FOR PETE'S SAKES!

WELL, I forgave my 1st husband FATHER OF MY KIDS) at our daughter's wedding, last year. Thank God the 2nd EX got cold feet about showing his FACE THERE! His "demons" manifested as he became very determined to rout me and cast me off and destroy me. So THERE! I ESCAPED. THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PART. AND GOD HIMSELF HELPED ME. THANK YOU FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST!
I just want to say what happened to me to help others, as WOLVES STILL PLAY SHEEP AND I AM STILL VULNERABLE DUE TO MY PRESENT PRECARIOUS SITUATION (IT HAPPENS...) SO JUDGERS DO WHAT YOU LIKE, BUT REMEMBER YOU WILL INDEED FEEL THE SHARP SIDE OF YOUR OWN MEASURES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
I am not judging you, I just wondered because I was in the exact same situation, but I was forced to marry. He loaded a gun in front of me and put it to my head as I wept, agreeing to marry him. My biological mother was no mother at all. You can click on my name and read my one, and only post.
 

Connock

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But Let's also not forget that all people that have NOT divorced and remarried are ALSO committing sin (every day)(Ro 3:23). Only Jesus redeems from this and all other sin - mine and yours and everyone's.
 
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TrailofTruth

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SHE WAS A SOCIOPATHIC Narcissist, cold, cruel, jealous.
I laid it out ( my story) to hopefully serve as an object lesson to women/or men. I was a childbood abuse victim. Uncburcbed and neglected dezpite the sbow my "mother" made about being a real mother. My father died when I was 5+ and my mother remarried and encouraged my stepdad to hit me, punish and berate me. I was "her Sweetest Child" she said ( a few months before SHE died). But she spent my life mocking me, especially when I was mistreated, so for years i withdrew from contact with her malignant "love." She also encouraged my siblings and later even my few FRIENDS TO further
mistreat me. NO BIG SHOCK I MARRIED BADLY. I was so UNLOVED. JUDGE ALL YOU LIKE if that is what you REALLY need to do for you to make your faith make "sense" i.e. (my APPARENT lack of "spiritual discernment.") Every single man whom I wed CLAIMED CHRIST! AND WAS BAPTIZED FOR PETE'S SAKES!

WELL, I forgave my 1st husband FATHER OF MY KIDS) at our daughter's wedding, last year. Thank God the 2nd EX got cold feet about showing his FACE THERE! His "demons" manifested as he became very determined to rout me and cast me off and destroy me. So THERE! I ESCAPED. THAT IS THE IMPORTANT PART. AND GOD HIMSELF HELPED ME. THANK YOU FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST!
I just want to say what happened to me to help others, as WOLVES STILL PLAY SHEEP AND I AM STILL VULNERABLE DUE TO MY PRESENT PRECARIOUS SITUATION (IT HAPPENS...) SO JUDGERS DO WHAT YOU LIKE, BUT REMEMBER YOU WILL INDEED FEEL THE SHARP SIDE OF YOUR OWN MEASURES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
I am not judging you, I just wondered because I was in the exact same situation, but I was forced to marry. He loaded a gun in front of me and put it to my head as I wept, agreeing to marry him. My biological mother was no mother at all. You can click on my name and read my one, and only "started thread".
 
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lisalove

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Look. I could TELL OF HEAPS OF HORRORS I went through. God allowef my birth into that twisted mother's life. She did the rest of the Devil's handiwork to annihilate me. I've been through so MUCH moreTHAN I want to remember. I am LEAVING HERE. But not mad. Just NOT interested in laying out my whole life.I came for prayer and nothing more than to add a precautionary word.
 
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Sheepman

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Btw. If this truncated post helps anyone, I am glad. Thanks to those who prayed for me. And I pray for those who just want to judge. If my story helps anyone it was worth it for me to reveal it. I am going to UNSUBSCRIBE THIS SITE. So I DON'T HAVE TO BEAR WITH ANY EXTRA TRAUMA. FARE THEE WELL!
I think you are brave. And honest posts like yours always get hit by some who just cannot grasp the depths of sorrow you gone trough. I believe every word you said. I heard many stories like yours and send my love through the Spirit of Jesus. Just dont bother the judges. Just stand still..abide in the King..Your testimony help others that have gone trough the same.

One dear lady said.."the devil carved me out from within until I only was a shell by all the extreme abuse and filth..Then, when the shell was about to finally crack too..Jesus saved me and filled the void..although I still struggle as everybody in their particular area. And you know what...The triumph was huge when I thanked the devil for makin such a deep big room for Jesus to take in possesion. People like me tend to stay with the Lord as it is their only option."

I was just muzzled when I heard her. For unstable hearts such a statement sounds like if thats the way to go. Hmm..If so..You should think twice. Those that dont go through such a mess wouldn stand a chance if exposed to it.

Be strong. Know what you gone trough is impossible for most people to do and still love the Lord. He loves you. You are not alone.

Everyone are made diffrent. Made strong in diffrent parts of the body of christ. Please Jesus help us to always remember this and encurage each other.
 
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popeye

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Btw. If this truncated post helps anyone, I am glad. Thanks to those who prayed for me. And I pray for those who just want to judge. If my story helps anyone it was worth it for me to reveal it. I am going to UNSUBSCRIBE THIS SITE. So I DON'T HAVE TO BEAR WITH ANY EXTRA TRAUMA. FARE THEE WELL!
Just stay close to Jesus,and go forward from where you are.

Too many voices are very confusing.

I've had so much garbage dumped on me over the years to last several lifetimes.

Learn to tune them out.
 
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popeye

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It's kind of a moot argument.

I could go and commit adultery anytime.

God could,or could not forgive me?

He could and would.

So,under you torah guys template,I could now divorce freely.

BTW,Blood is forbidden. What's that red stuff oozing out if your hamburger patty you cooked while ago?

Oooops
 
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popeye

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Kosher anyone?

That law beats up even the "righteous"
 

iwant2serve

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First of all this is a very delicate subject and painful for many as they have had much trauma from a marriage and divorce. The bible is clear on marriage and divorce and Jesus address this in Matt 19 when asked by the Pharisees asking if a man can divorce for any reason. Jesus quotes that it was not so from the beginning and Moses gave them permission because of the hardness of their hearts. Then he went on to explain the reasons for a divorce,
 
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Barnmaid

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I have a hard time with this one too. I just recently left my husband of 21 years because he's abusive so does God expect me to stay and take the abuse? will I be punished for leaving? Can I never have another relationship because I Married an alcoholic abuser who doesn't feel he's doing anything wrong?
 

Demi777

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Ive seen God GREATLY bless 2nd marriages. It depends on the situation.
 

blue_ladybug

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I believe that God makes allowance for physical abuse as grounds for divorce. He doesn't want his children in a situation where they get abused and many times, killed.. He knows the heart of each person, especially those in an abusive situation, and will judge them by that.

*This is in response to post #30 by Barnmaid.* :)
 
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KRM412

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I've been divorced 3 years and left my husband of 22 yrs because of emotional, verbal and psychological abuse. He has our children and brain washed them against me for his financial gain. I feel so lonely that joined an online dating site to find that special someone again, but it hasn't been successful and felt into sin. I'm paying for it now and decided just to have God bring that special someone into my life in his timing.
 

Dino246

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I have a hard time with this one too. I just recently left my husband of 21 years because he's abusive so does God expect me to stay and take the abuse? will I be punished for leaving? Can I never have another relationship because I Married an alcoholic abuser who doesn't feel he's doing anything wrong?
First, welcome to CC! :)

No, God does not expect you to stay and take the abuse, and you won't be punished (by God) for leaving. Separation is a legitimate option, and does not necessarily lead to divorce. Pray for him to be convicted by the Holy Spirit. I would encourage you to find a series of videos featuring Patrick Doyle on YouTube... presented by The Dove TV out of Oregon. He's solidly biblical and addresses many issues which may help you.

I've been divorced 3 years and left my husband of 22 yrs because of emotional, verbal and psychological abuse. He has our children and brain washed them against me for his financial gain. I feel so lonely that joined an online dating site to find that special someone again, but it hasn't been successful and felt into sin. I'm paying for it now and decided just to have God bring that special someone into my life in his timing.
Welcome to CC to you too! :)

Loneliness is something I know too... or rather, have known and still feel occasionally. Be patient... ask God for His guidance regarding looking again. There is nothing wrong with seeking someone new, even online, and it is part of the process of moving on. Best wishes to you!

Let me encourage you each to begin new threads in the Family forum. :)
 
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ladylynn

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I'm sorry about your situation KRM412. It's hard to imagine this, but your situation is not uncommon at all these days. Marriages are failing at a very high rate even among Christians. What happens is people try desperately to fix their situation by looking for love in all the wrong places when they are lonely.

The answer is allowing Jesus to take the hurts of our lives and the emotional confusion. To allow Him to save your soul and then work on your life here. We come to Him with all our baggage and He will carefully walk us through as we seek Him out. The answers won't be found in other people because we have to get our own minds and hearts healed. And that can only be done by Jesus. Bringing new people into our lives and situations only adds to the confusion we still need to work out.

3 years seems like a very long time after you have been married and had a family for 22yrs. But it really isn't. You are only just maybe beginning to start to realize how sad you really are. It must have taken a long time to come to the place of leaving.

Rebounding is also very common and many people fall into that mistake too. It's rushing to solve the emotional pain. Often people will do anything to stop the emotional pain of loss. I hope you find a good Bible teaching church and get around Christians who can help and comfort you at this time. There are also good Christian divorce recovery groups.

There are more options for help and comfort than finding another spouse at this time. Rushing in these matters when vulnerable and emotional is not a good time to make such life changing decisions. Especially about finding another husband.

You need healing time KRM412. Get plenty of sleep and know that Jesus promises He will never leave us or forsake us when we trust Him. I'm praying for you! ladylynn


 
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KRM412

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I'm sorry about your situation KRM412. It's hard to imagine this, but your situation is not uncommon at all these days. Marriages are failing at a very high rate even among Christians. What happens is people try desperately to fix their situation by looking for love in all the wrong places when they are lonely.

The answer is allowing Jesus to take the hurts of our lives and the emotional confusion. To allow Him to save your soul and then work on your life here. We come to Him with all our baggage and He will carefully walk us through as we seek Him out. The answers won't be found in other people because we have to get our own minds and hearts healed. And that can only be done by Jesus. Bringing new people into our lives and situations only adds to the confusion we still need to work out.

3 years seems like a very long time after you have been married and had a family for 22yrs. But it really isn't. You are only just maybe beginning to start to realize how sad you really are. It must have taken a long time to come to the place of leaving.

Rebounding is also very common and many people fall into that mistake too. It's rushing to solve the emotional pain. Often people will do anything to stop the emotional pain of loss. I hope you find a good Bible teaching church and get around Christians who can help and comfort you at this time. There are also good Christian divorce recovery groups.

There are more options for help and comfort than finding another spouse at this time. Rushing in these matters when vulnerable and emotional is not a good time to make such life changing decisions. Especially about finding another husband.

You need healing time KRM412. Get plenty of sleep and know that Jesus promises He will never leave us or forsake us when we trust Him. I'm praying for you! ladylynn


Thank you lady Lynn for the reply! I'm currently going to church but not involved in a bible study nor a Christian divorced recovery group. I will certainly look into it! Thank you for your prayers and God bless
 

OneFaith

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Not all, some yes. The one who was divorcED for cheating cannot remarry, the one who was cheated on can remarry.
 

Adstar

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So much scripture about divorce and remarriage So in not so many words the bible is saying woman can not remarry unless their husband is dead. Romans 7:3 - So then if, while [her] husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

that if she does she is an adulteress please enlighten me on this how are so many Christians divorcing and remarrying? are they going to be considered damned or sinners?
Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.


so if a woman is cheated on gets divorced and then gets remarried her new husband is considered to have committed adultery also very confusing
If a wife or husband has committed adultery then that is Biblical grounds for being divorced by their husband..

Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.


 

Adstar

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Also if an unbelieving husband or wife wants to divorce a Christian then the Christian is free to remarry..

I Corinthians 7 KJV
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
 

trofimus

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Also if an unbelieving husband or wife wants to divorce a Christian then the Christian is free to remarry..

I Corinthians 7 KJV
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.

15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

Not "free to remarry", but "free to depart".