Confused

[Rowly61]

Hi, I'm New to Christianity. I'm so confused, I'm 55 years old and I've always thought things went in this order.king God our farther babba, Lord Jesus, our brother and our holy spirit. So why do some call Jesus king ?. Now I know some say that Jesus is the king. So then who was he talking to when on the cross in his darkest moment he cried out farther farther why have you forsaken me, farther what have I done wrong ?. Why do we say our Lord Jesus in a pryor ?. I'm sorry for asking this, I'm New to this and I really want to get it right. Thank you for your understanding. God bless.

 

[lastofall]

"All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Prophet, saying, Tell yee the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy king commeth vnto thee, meeke, and sitting vpon an Asse, and a colt, the foale of an Asse." (Matthew 21:4-5)

"Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;" (1 Timothy 6:15)

"These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful." (Revelation 17:14)

"And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." (Revelation 19:16)

"For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." (John 5:22-24)

 

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Jesus came to them and said, "All authority
in heaven and on earth has been given to me."

 

[Magenta]

A careful reading of John 1 will show you that Jesus is God.

John 1 (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

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Jesus is the living Word of God, and the Word became flesh. He is eternal. He is the creator of the universe, the author and finisher of our faith, the great architect, the giver of life, in Whom all things live and move.

Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor,Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He.Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last)

Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer)
2 Peter 1:1(Jesus is the Redeemer) - “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Isaiah 44:24 -(God created the world by Himself alone)
John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things)

John 1:1 -In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 5:17,18 - “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM [He], you will die in your sins.”

John 8:58- Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

John 14:6-7 - Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5-6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us)

Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men.

Colossians 2:9 - For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:8-9 - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 1:8 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and theLast.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”

1 Timothy 6:14-16 - “our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing, which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.”

 

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Jesus is the Rock of our salvation. God is the only Rock of our salvation.

Psalm 78:35
And they remembered that God was their rock, And the Most High God their Redeemer.

Genesis 49:24
But his bow remained firm, And his arms were agile, From the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel),

Deuteronomy 32:15
"But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked-- You are grown fat, thick, and sleek-- Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation.

2 Samuel 23:3
"The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me, 'He who rules over men righteously, Who rules in the fear of God,

Psalm 42:9
I will say to God my rock, "Why have You forgotten me? Why do I go mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?"

Isaiah 30:29
You will have songs as in the night when you keep the festival, And gladness of heart as when one marches to the sound of the flute, To go to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.

Habakkuk 1:12
Are You not from everlasting, O LORD, my God, my Holy One? We will not die You, O LORD, have appointed them to judge; And You, O Rock, have established them to correct.

2 Samuel 22:32
"For who is God, besides the LORD? And who is a rock, besides our God?

Psalm 18:31
For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,

1 Samuel 2:2
"There is no one holy like the LORD, Indeed, there is no one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.

Isaiah 44:8
'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My witnesses Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'"

Deuteronomy 32:31
"Indeed their rock is not like our Rock, Even our enemies themselves judge this.

Deuteronomy 32:37
"And He will say, 'Where are their gods, The rock in which they sought refuge?

Psalm 144:1
Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;

Deuteronomy 32:4
"The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He.

Psalm 92:15
To declare that the LORD is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.

Psalm 62:7
On God my salvation and my glory rest; The rock of my strength, my refuge is in God.

Psalm 28:1
To You, O LORD, I call; My rock, do not be deaf to me, For if You are silent to me, I will become like those who go down to the pit.

Psalm 31:1-3
In You, O LORD, I have taken refuge; Let me never be ashamed; In Your righteousness deliver me. Incline Your ear to me, rescue me quickly; Be to me a rock of strength, A stronghold to save me. For You are my rock and my fortress; For Your name's sake You will lead me and guide me.

Psalm 61:2
From the end of the earth I call to You when my heart is faint; Lead me to the rock that is higher than I.

Psalm 71:3
Be to me a rock of habitation to which I may continually come; You have given commandment to save me, For You are my rock and my fortress.

Isaiah 26:4
"Trust in the LORD forever, For in GOD the LORD, we have an everlasting Rock.

Psalm 94:22
But the LORD has been my stronghold, And my God the rock of my refuge.

2 Samuel 22:3
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge; My savior, You save me from violence.

Psalm 18:2
The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.

Psalm 95:1
O come, let us sing for joy to the LORD, Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation.

2 Samuel 22:47
"The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be God, the rock of my salvation,

Psalm 18:46
The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be the God of my salvation,

To be Continued

 

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Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.

Psalm 62:2
He only is my rock and my salvation, My stronghold; I shall not be greatly shaken.

Psalm 89:26
"He will cry to Me, 'You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation.'

Isaiah 17:10
For you have forgotten the God of your salvation And have not remembered the rock of your refuge. Therefore you plant delightful plants And set them with vine slips of a strange god.

Isaiah 8:14
"Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

Isaiah 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.

Psalm 118:22
The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner stone.

Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, "Did you never read in the Scriptures, 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone; THIS CAME ABOUT FROM THE LORD, AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES'?

Mark 12:10
"Have you not even read this Scripture: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone;

Luke 20:17
But Jesus looked at them and said, "What then is this that is written: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone'?

Acts 4:11
"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone.

1 Peter 2:6-7
For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"

Matthew 21:44
"And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."

Luke 20:18
"Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."

Romans 9:32-33
Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone, just as it is written, "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."

1 Peter 2:4-8
And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."

 

[AuntieAnt]

Hi, I'm New to Christianity. I'm so confused, I'm 55 years old and I've always thought things went in this order.king God our farther babba, Lord Jesus, our brother and our holy spirit. So why do some call Jesus king ?. Now I know some say that Jesus is the king. So then who was he talking to when on the cross in his darkest moment he cried out farther farther why have you forsaken me, farther what have I done wrong ?. Why do we say our Lord Jesus in a pryor ?. I'm sorry for asking this, I'm New to this and I really want to get it right. Thank you for your understanding. God bless.

Hello, Rowly. You say you're new to Christianity but your profile says you are not a Christian. Which is it? Just wondering.

 

[resurrection33]

Hi, I'm New to Christianity. I'm so confused, I'm 55 years old and I've always thought things went in this order.king God our farther babba, Lord Jesus, our brother and our holy spirit. So why do some call Jesus king ?. Now I know some say that Jesus is the king. So then who was he talking to when on the cross in his darkest moment he cried out farther farther why have you forsaken me, farther what have I done wrong ?. Why do we say our Lord Jesus in a pryor ?. I'm sorry for asking this, I'm New to this and I really want to get it right. Thank you for your understanding. God bless.

Here is my take: Jesus is God in flesh. God decided to come to earth as a human being, so he did so as Jesus Christ. As for the, "Father, why have you forsaken me?" question, I think Jesus said that for our benefit.

 

[Rowly61]

Hi Mathew, your right & I'm sorry. No I'm not a Christian, but I'm trying to study or learn about Christianity. Iv always spoke to God & Jesus just as I would tackle to my earth farther & brother. But now I feel I should join a church & knuckle down a bit. Well spotted Sir I'm sorry

 

[AuntieAnt]

Hi Mathew, your right & I'm sorry. No I'm not a Christian, but I'm trying to study or learn about Christianity. Iv always spoke to God & Jesus just as I would tackle to my earth farther & brother. But now I feel I should join a church & knuckle down a bit. Well spotted Sir I'm sorry

Um.. that was a scripture from Matthew on my signature, dear. That's not my user name. I'm AuntieAnt. ROFL!!

 

[Rowly61]

Well I couldn't get things more wrong could i. AuntieAnt please forgive me. But thank you for your kind reply.

 

[Rowly61]

Thank you everyone for your replys.

 

[valiant]

Hi, I'm New to Christianity. I'm so confused, I'm 55 years old and I've always thought things went in this order.king God our farther babba, Lord Jesus, our brother and our holy spirit.

God is far more complicated that that.

God is Father of His sons. That is why we can call Him Abba Father.

But He is also called The Father in the Triune God, in contrast with the Son and the Holy Spirit. There the term Father is distinguishing His unique position IN HUMAN TERMS. But as with 'the Son' it must not be taken literally. He is called the Father because He sent forth His Son (One Who was part of His Being). But 'the Son' ever existed with the Father (was co-eternal).

But the Father was king, and the Son was king. Again it is using human terminology to declare the greatness of the Godhead,
They are both far superior to kings.

At the cross Jesus did NOT ask what had He done wrong. He was asking why He was forsaken when He had done all things right,

God the Father is God, the LORD Jesus Christ is God. In fact God = LORD.

The terminology is our best efforts in human terms to portray God in all His Being. We have no terminology to describe Him otherwise.

 

[tourist]

There have been a few posts that have already addressed your question so I won't add to that. May God shine His light upon you and provide clarity of thought and guide your path. Welcome to CC.

 

[Talishi]

At the cross Jesus did NOT ask what had He done wrong. He was asking why He was forsaken when He had done all things right

Or maybe he was quoting the Psalms to deal with the pain.

Psalm 22:1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

 

[Rowly61]

Hi Talishi. Thank you for your reply. I'm sorry I got the wording wrong, I never mean to upset anybody ever. I'm just trying to understand the meanings in the Bible. I'm 55 yrs old & up till a few weeks ago I believed our Farther, Jesus & the Holy Spirit was separate. So I was simply asking who was Jesus talking too ?. Please look or read anything I Wright down on hear as a child asking a question. As iv said I'm not on hear to affend or upset anybody in any way at all. I came to this site to learn, not to step on toes.

 

[miknik5]

Hi, I'm New to Christianity. I'm so confused, I'm 55 years old and I've always thought things went in this order.king God our farther babba, Lord Jesus, our brother and our holy spirit. So why do some call Jesus king ?. Now I know some say that Jesus is the king. So then who was he talking to when on the cross in his darkest moment he cried out farther farther why have you forsaken me, farther what have I done wrong ?. Why do we say our Lord Jesus in a pryor ?. I'm sorry for asking this, I'm New to this and I really want to get it right. Thank you for your understanding. God bless.

Because HE must reign until all has been accomplished

Not all know THE LORD and many profess that they can come to GOD apart from JESUS

they can't. This is why CHRIST, the full manifestation of GOD, must reign until all has been accomplished

As a TESTIMONY to THE TRUTH for those who believe and a TESTIMONY against those who don't