sacrifices ?

[pickles]

As I been reading through the OT and not skipping through it! I just wanted to bring attention as to witness that it is the best thing I have ever been convicted to do and all should do this! Back to point here.
There is alot of sacrificing in the OT. I had never realised how much. So this has had me questioning what people thought happened with the sacrifice.
Did one just sacrifice it as an offering and thats it?
Did one believe that by sacrificing that by burning it was the only way it could be enjoyed?
Or did one believe that by sacrificing it was given to an eternal existance in the presance of God?
Im just wondering how it was perceved?
Thankyou and God bless, pickles

 

[MahogonySnail]

Apparently God likes barbecues. Although he could not eat it, he enjoyed the smell. And I'm not joking I'm serious. They burnt it for a few reasons, one is that they would eat it, and they couldnt eat anything with blood still in it.

 

[1still_waters]

Apparently God likes barbecues. Although he could not eat it, he enjoyed the smell. And I'm not joking I'm serious. They burnt it for a few reasons, one is that they would eat it, and they couldnt eat anything with blood still in it.

I know the first part of that was a semi-joke, but it kinda helped some of the sacrifices make sense. Thanks.

 

[MahogonySnail]

I admit the barbecue statement was a little tongue in cheekl. Ironically, have you ever noticed how many churches/small groups have barbecues?, sausage sizzles? In the old testament they had burnt sacrifices...am I onto something here?

 

[1still_waters]

I admit the barbecue statement was a little tongue in cheekl. Ironically, have you ever noticed how many churches/small groups have barbecues?, sausage sizzles? In the old testament they had burnt sacrifices...am I onto something here?

Created in his image.

 

[MahogonySnail]

Oh I was wrong. They did not eat the burnt sacrifice, it represented complete submission to God. It was other types they could eat. Serves me right for not checking this before I post .

 

[phil36]

All sacrifices showed the perilous situation that man is in, these show the seriousness of sin... it is only by death can sin be forgiven. the sacrifices are vicarious. the fact that the person themselves had to gut the animal proves another point at how awful sin is before God and acts as a reminder to the person what he deserves.

God's wrath needs to be delt with and this was the propitiation. the sacrifice was prescrbibed by God, the Israelites were told by God how to do it, this was grace in itself, God gave them a method to Atone for their sins. From memory the scape goat is expiation, I'll double check that later but I am sure it is.
and of course this all points to Christ who is the vicarious scapegoat. hope that helped.

Phil

 

[mpaper345]

The Bible says without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.

They had to do animal sacrifices to cover their sins in the Old Testament until Jesus came.All the Old Testament saints who had their sins covered by animal blood now has the blood of Christ applied to their life.

The blood of animals would only cover their sins and could not completely remove their sins.

There was a rememberance every year of their sins and they had to cover their sins that were already covered.

Animals are inferior to people so the blood of animals cannot completely take away sins and they could not have the Spirit like in the New Testament.

The blood of Jesus completely removes sins and we can receive the Spirit which that is what salvation is all about receiving the Spirit.

The priests got to eat the meat of the animals they sacrificed.

 

[loveschild]

The goat. Sometimes they put their sins into the goat. There really is a demon with all of that. I don't have any idea of how much they understood of what they were doing. Other than they were doing what they were told. Yes they ate most of the meat. Lots of it was all about titheing. Giving the best to God since its all his in the first place. Him wanting to see what they wil do. I think the whole blood thing was getting them used to the coming of Jesus and he was going to give the only blood that could help us. Most all of it was a ritual as sorts or just plain ole obeying a bunch of rules like today.

 

[MahogonySnail]

There arose difficulties when one tried to give a woolly mammoth as a burnt offering.

 

[pickles]

I like the bbq refrences, smiles.
I understand the perpose of the sacrifice, that part has always been the center of our faith. What I was wondering about was if the sacrifice was recieved in heaven and became eternal. I know this may be a silly question, but as I was reading the OT this thought crossed my mind, especially since God Our Father required that all sacrifices be pure, nothing unclean. The interesting thing is that the goat was sent into the dessert rather than having the blood poared out then burned. This was done only once a year. The scape goat as it is refured to, that the sins were put apon.
It as I said it was a thought, if anything sacrificed to God Our Father was recieved into heaven and became eternal it would give an additional understanding to the sacrifice and the sacrifice of Jesus, who was pure. I guess it was just a silly thought, but I was wondering if ? And was there scripture on it. I tend to wonder alot about everything in creation.
Thanks so much for your help.
Smiles and God bless, pickles

 

[lighthousejohn]

I like the bbq refrences, smiles.
I understand the perpose of the sacrifice, that part has always been the center of our faith. What I was wondering about was if the sacrifice was recieved in heaven and became eternal. I know this may be a silly question, but as I was reading the OT this thought crossed my mind, especially since God Our Father required that all sacrifices be pure, nothing unclean. The interesting thing is that the goat was sent into the dessert rather than having the blood poared out then burned. This was done only once a year. The scape goat as it is refured to, that the sins were put apon.
It as I said it was a thought, if anything sacrificed to God Our Father was recieved into heaven and became eternal it would give an additional understanding to the sacrifice and the sacrifice of Jesus, who was pure. I guess it was just a silly thought, but I was wondering if ? And was there scripture on it. I tend to wonder alot about everything in creation.
Thanks so much for your help.
Smiles and God bless, pickles

Pickles,

I do not think that the animals sacrificed by the priests were received in heaven for eternity. It was the aroma that pleased God, not the animal itself. God's only reqiuirement as far as the animal was concerned is that it was without defect.

Just a thought; If the animal became "eternal" then wouldn't that provide a way for salvation of the person bringing the offering? As I said, just another thought.

In Christ,
John

 

[pickles]

Pickles,

I do not think that the animals sacrificed by the priests were received in heaven for eternity. It was the aroma that pleased God, not the animal itself. God's only reqiuirement as far as the animal was concerned is that it was without defect.

Just a thought; If the animal became "eternal" then wouldn't that provide a way for salvation of the person bringing the offering? As I said, just another thought.

In Christ,
John

Good point John, as I said , just wondering. but I thought more about it since I was last logged on and reaized if it was true it would be easy to abuse.
I will always wonder about all things in Jesus, one cant help being awed by God Our Father.
God bless, pickles

 

[Pete_Martinez]

The purpose of the sacrifices were to only "cover" the sin. It was like using a credit card until you had the money to pay it back. They did not make the sin go away, and honestly, it was God who gave the forgiveness. Check this out...

Isa 44:22 I have blotted out your transgressions like a cloud and your sins like mist; return to me, for I have redeemed you. "Notice all the I's in that statement? How many I have blotted out your transgressions because of your obedience and sacrifice?"

Isa 1:11 "What to me is the multitude of your sacrifices? says the LORD; I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of well-fed beasts; I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs, or of goats.
Even the sweet psalmist of Israel knew the futility of offering sacrifices with the wrong spirit.
Psa 51:15 O Lord, open my lips, and my mouth will declare your praise.
Psa 51:16 For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering.
Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.
Psa 51:18 Do good to Zion in your good pleasure; build up the walls of Jerusalem;
Psa 51:19 then will you delight in right sacrifices, in burnt offerings and whole burnt offerings; then bulls will be offered on your altar.

The real real purpose of sacrifice was to point to the ultimate sacrifice. Which is why the book of Hebrews was written. Once you had the ultimate sacrifice making "lesser" sacrifices was now an abomination and equivalent to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Mal316]

If I may... pickles, I'd like to commend you on reading through the OT, not just skipping through it. It takes dedication to study His Word and great is the reward for those who do so. See Psalm 1. Joshua 1:7-8

A note about sacrifices.... The word translated "sacrifices" in the Torah, specifically in Leviticus, is korbanot. Korbanot is the plural of korban, meaning "offering". It was something dedicated to God. See Mark 7:11.

Korban comes from the Hebrew root karov meaning, "to draw near." An offering was a means of 'drawing near' to God. Sin is missing the mark. It's falling short of the glory of God. A sacrifice, or offering, was a way of coming back to God.

It is my understanding that for a Christian, Christ's sacrifice is the ultimate means of drawing near to God. See John 12:32 "But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself." Emphasis added

 

[loveschild]

Everything we do on earth effects heaven. Or hell.

 

[Rogue]

The goat. Sometimes they put their sins into the goat. There really is a demon with all of that. I don't have any idea of how much they understood of what they were doing.

A demon? Heaven help us...God commanded them to offer Him sacrifices for the atonement of their sins! There's no demon. Goodness gracious.

Yes they ate most of the meat.

They didn't eat any of the meat used in sacrifices. They weren't supposed to.

 

[pickles]

Thankyou all for your help. I am so greatful for bible study forum, the truest perpose it to help each other better understand the scriptures.
It is a true help for me as each of you share your understanding.
Thankyou and God bless, pickles

 

[Slepsog4]

The priests and levites could take a portion for eating purposes. But the Peace offering was a time when the person giving it was free to eat and share it with family. Dinner on the grounds.

 

[VW]

All sacrifices showed the perilous situation that man is in, these show the seriousness of sin... it is only by death can sin be forgiven. the sacrifices are vicarious. the fact that the person themselves had to gut the animal proves another point at how awful sin is before God and acts as a reminder to the person what he deserves.

God's wrath needs to be delt with and this was the propitiation. the sacrifice was prescrbibed by God, the Israelites were told by God how to do it, this was grace in itself, God gave them a method to Atone for their sins. From memory the scape goat is expiation, I'll double check that later but I am sure it is.
and of course this all points to Christ who is the vicarious scapegoat. hope that helped.

Phil

And with all of their sacrifices, sin was not removed, only covered, just enough that God would not destroy them. And as to drawing into His presence, coming close enough to Him to experience Him, this only happened once a year, and only by the high priest, and only after very specific sacrifices had been done.

In Jesus, in His death on the cross, sin is removed, gone, never to be remembered. Why? Because in His death, we all died to sin in Him. Now, because of our death in Him, and because in Him we have been made alive to God, we have free access to the Father's presence, free entrance into His glory, to see Him and to know Him, and for Him to know us. This is salvation.

Praise you Father, for sending Jesus to be our sacrifice.