Lot's of "Personal Interpretation" Going On In Some Of These Threads

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Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.
(John 3:36)​

He said to take up your cross and follow him.

Guess what works a person does on their cross?
Just one. They die.
And in Him, we find life -- we know we will live with Him, because we have died with Him.
. . . A death that split the curtain of the old covenant in two, and destroyed the priesthood of the Levites, and reduced all the complexity and burden of trying to establish our own righteousness and be justified before God down to one simple act, the thing that that the thief who also carried his cross that day did: believe, and die.

Paul, by the Spirit, expounds for us what we believe.
Seeing that Christ said it was for our benefit that He left - because He would then send the Comforter, who would explain all these things - i'd say the things that His apostles opened up for us are more than just "
important."

But my fine dude, now that this Spirit is given to those who believe, we could have Isaiah alone and comprehend the gospel, as much as any human can at this point in time. i do agree on that respect, and from what you've said alone in this thread -- i don't care to go wading through others -- i don't see you rejecting Paul, though i do see a hint that you may not comprehend that the work of God is God working in you to bring you towards Himself, not you working towards Him ((i.e. that popular arminianism business)). Sometimes i believe it's necessary to understand that Christ said things to people still living under Moses, which have a new meaning for those who don't -- where commandments have become promises rather than frighteningly high measuring sticks.

Is that the case?
Here's a question that might illuminate that point: when He said "
be perfect" -- what does He mean? Is that a command to us like "do not hold a grudge," or is it said in the same way He said "let there be light" ? Is that a completely unreachable goal meant to always spur toward greater effort and desire, or the litmus test for entrance into the kingdom? What does this mean?


((How'd i do?))
I think he means to pay attention to your life, and TRY.
 

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Since the question has been raised, a simple yes or no, which you have so far not answered would help me understand where you are coming from.

To the OP:

Do you believe that the words of Paul, as written in the Bible, are inspired?

Thanks in advance.
As I never said that they weren't there's no reason to be asked this question.
Technically though, that's not an answer. :rolleyes:
 
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Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them.
(John 3:36)​




((How'd i do?))
Sorry to say not very well. The verse you quoted in John speaking, not Jesus.

The verse says that one must believe but does it say that's all one must do?
 
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I'd love to discuss the post trib theory (after all, they're all theories at this point in time) but from what I've seen in that thread it would be a waste of time. Folks have divided up into camps and are too busy fighting each other to learn anything. Many were the times in the past that someone was able to move me from one position to another with sound reasoning and logic. Not much of that going on around here.
We are already, and have been for two thousand years, in a "tribulation" period. It just ebbs and flows in varying intensities throughout history. (As you know, "THE Great Tribulation" is not in the Bible, anyway...... I think it might be in the same hidden book as "The Rapture.")
 

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Sorry to say not very well. The verse you quoted in John speaking, not Jesus.

The verse says that one must believe but does it say that's all one must do?
Read verses 10-21.

Where did John hear this teaching?
 
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1 Corinthians: 3. 11. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13. Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
 

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does it say that's all one must do?
"Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.

In the wilderness, what else did the people do that looked towards that bronze serpent?
 
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So this is your version of edifying? Pop in to threads here and there and just give an I'm-above-it-all head wag? Isn't that the very thing you claim to be above?
How can you be both in it and above it? Check out your own "breath."

It's very edifying to ignore bullies and treat their behaviour with perspective and humour and leave it to the Lord. Contributing constructively where it's relevant and not bother engaging with those who are blatantly trying to flame is a fantastic way to stay above it all. How did that thread go of yours by the way about wanting to learn further about waiting on the lord? I did my best to help, so you'll have to let me know how it all went. You can stay above all that behaviour by not being a part of it. Give a constructive opinion on an issue, take the rest of the behaviour with a grain salt and some humour, and that should serve you well.

 
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Why waste time trying to discuss biblical truth with a guy who rejects the bible ? he has his personal scriptures he wants to believe in the way he wants to believe them and rejects the rest....as all false teachers do.
 
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Ariel82

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Why waste time trying to discuss biblical truth with a guy who rejects the bible ? he has his personal scriptures he wants to believe in the way he wants to believe them and rejects the rest....as all false teachers do.
Are you sure your not confusing this guy with someone else?

Cuz I skimmed his older posts and have yet to see him mention Paul really in any....but I admit to not spending that much time looking.

He said he didn't condemn people who didn't keep the Sabbath, but choses to keep it himself?

His take on the gospel wasn't completely off left field, so what's ur beef?

If you don't like him, just leave his thread.

If he is a false teacher, most folks will figure it out.

If he is not, you owe him an apology.
 
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We are already, and have been for two thousand years, in a "tribulation" period. It just ebbs and flows in varying intensities throughout history. (As you know, "THE Great Tribulation" is not in the Bible, anyway...... I think it might be in the same hidden book as "The Rapture.")
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 16:33
 
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Thanks for the rep, happy you were able to take something away from it.
 
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Ariel82

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Who are u stalking today Post?
 
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Officermayo

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OR you can chase people around from thread to thread accosting them.
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Being crippled and having COPD precludes me from doing that. But, there was a time long ago......................
 
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Mitspa

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Are you sure your not confusing this guy with someone else?

Cuz I skimmed his older posts and have yet to see him mention Paul really in any....but I admit to not spending that much time looking.

He said he didn't condemn people who didn't keep the Sabbath, but choses to keep it himself?

His take on the gospel wasn't completely off left field, so what's ur beef?

If you don't like him, just leave his thread.

If he is a false teacher, most folks will figure it out.

If he is not, you owe him an apology.
Who are you? You a mod here? ..If you don't like what I say? leave the thread
 
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These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 16:33
Exactly. A lot of people can't see that.
 
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