Who is your master?

[Yet]

Know you not that to who you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are that you obey? ."...Romans 6:16

Can a person have two masters? Matt. 6:24

When you sign on to a religious institution that is controlled by corporate men, with laws and by-laws, are you placing your obedience into their hands?

Who is your master? Christ or men?

Another way to say it. Who really is your Lord?

 

[Magenta]

When you sign on to a religious institution that is controlled by corporate men,
with laws and by-laws, are you placing your obedience into their hands?

I have never done that

 

[Skinski7]

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
[video=youtube;hZ6V2dZkRYw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ6V2dZkRYw[/video]

 

[Blain]

Huh? do people make you sign a contract when you go to church or something?

 

[AuntieAnt]

Well, I was just about to type, "Jesus is my master!" But then the Holy Spirit reminded me in my heart, "I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you."

Now I'm crying for joy cuz I am so happy to be Jesus' friend!

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[Yeraza_Bats]

Huh? do people make you sign a contract when you go to church or something?

You mean you didnt? : p

 

[oldethennew]

He treats us as His 'best-friends and confidants, but, we have to approach Him
with the respect as a Royal King, because we even give earthly dignitaries that
protocol and respect, how much MORE, the KING of the UNIVERSE?

 

[OneFaith]

Jesus Christ is my Lord and Master. He is the One I serve. Interestingly however, there are those who call Jesus their Lord, but do not put forth effort to serve or obey Him. They expect Him to do everything. Never seen a master who told his servant to sit down while the master does everything. Like in the words of my Master, "Why do you call Me 'Lord' and do not do what I say?"

 

[Nautilus]

Know you not that to who you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are that you obey? ."...Romans 6:16

Can a person have two masters? Matt. 6:24

When you sign on to a religious institution that is controlled by corporate men, with laws and by-laws, are you placing your obedience into their hands?

Who is your master? Christ or men?

Another way to say it. Who really is your Lord?

Not sure what kind of nutjob churches you went to that did this, but the majority do not.

 

[PollyAnna]

Not sure what kind of nutjob churches you went to that did this, but the majority do not.

Sorry Charlie but you grossly misspoke. MOST steeples are under the 501c3 which is a corporation formed under the government for tax exemption. You did get one thing right. They are nutjobs because they bow down to the government when they didnt have to in the first place!!

 

[PollyAnna]

Know you not that to who you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are that you obey? ."...Romans 6:16

Can a person have two masters? Matt. 6:24

When you sign on to a religious institution that is controlled by corporate men, with laws and by-laws, are you placing your obedience into their hands?

Who is your master? Christ or men?

Another way to say it. Who really is your Lord?

Its no surprise to me that the majority of those who claim Christ do not have any idea what the 501c3 is! Its evident by the comments and "yet" lack of comments that respond to the nature of your post!

 

[AuntieAnt]

He treats us as His 'best-friends and confidants, but, we have to approach Him
with the respect as a Royal King, because we even give earthly dignitaries that
protocol and respect, how much MORE, the KING of the UNIVERSE?

I used to think so, oldethennew. I used to think I had to approach God gingerly while first repenting of all my sins & getting myself all "ready" to appear before him.

Except one time while I was sitting cross-legged on my bed with my Bible in my lap, trying to think of all my sins so I could repent and get clean in order to pray effectively... I realized there was no end of things I could think to repent of. In fact, I couldn't think of anything I did that was even worthy enough to be called "good works". All of a sudden it occurred to me that God deserved much better than anything I could offer and I broke down and sobbed my heart out. I couldn't even look up at God, I felt so ashamed and bankrupt.

Then the Holy Spirit revealed to me how delighted and glad God is when we run to him boldly as our Father and not to hesitate coming to him just as I am. It makes God happy when we run to him without fear. Man, I was so overjoyed, I called all my Christian friends up and shared it with them so they could be set free of that fear, too!

I don't have to worry about being respectful enough or be fearful of God like the cowardly lion in the Wizard of Oz. God's not a man, or anything like an earthly king. God is Spirit! And I am united with him through the spirit of Christ Jesus. Jesus wasn't afraid of the Father and he tells us not to be afraid as well.

 

[eph610]

Not sure what kind of nutjob churches you went to that did this, but the majority do not.

There are a lot of smaller churches that force you to sign a covenant or "pledge" promise to give the 10% tithe and then mandatory offerings on top of the 10% to be considered a member "in good standing" These scams and should be avoided.

Many denominations do membership rolls. Most churches have bylaws and constitutions as well

Bylaws are important to help folks see what you believe and do not believe.

We had to update the bylaws for our ministry some years ago to let people know that we believe that marriage is defined in the Bible as between 1 naturally born man & 1 naturally born woman, that the ministry would not marry persons of the same sex or or that changed their sex due to transgenderism. We then listed some Bible verses that we stand on for this belief.

Yet is quite correct that there are nut cases out there that do this and it is more common than one would think. Some grace giving churches that correctly believe the tithe is not a NC command are now basing giving off of personal income. There is not a church that will ever know the income I make in the secular world or monetary gifts our ministry is given. It is simply not their business, but many give out that info, because it is "the Church"

 

[PollyAnna]

I used to think so, oldethennew. I used to think I had to approach God gingerly while first repenting of all my sins & getting myself all "ready" to appear before him.

Except one time while I was sitting cross-legged on my bed with my Bible in my lap, trying to think of all my sins so I could repent and get clean in order to pray effectively... I realized there was no end of things I could think to repent of. In fact, I couldn't think of anything I did that was even worthy enough to be called "good works". All of a sudden it occurred to me that God deserved much better than anything I could offer and I broke down and sobbed my heart out. I couldn't even look up at God, I felt so ashamed and bankrupt.

Then the Holy Spirit revealed to me how delighted and glad God is when we run to him boldly as our Father and not to hesitate coming to him just as I am. It makes God happy when we run to him without fear. Man, I was so overjoyed, I called all my Christian friends up and shared it with them so they could be set free of that fear, too!

I don't have to worry about being respectful enough or be fearful of God like the cowardly lion in the Wizard of Oz. God's not a man, or anything like an earthly king. God is Spirit! And I am united with him through the spirit of Christ Jesus. Jesus wasn't afraid of the Father and he tells us not to be afraid as well.

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Fear is not necessarily fear as you have described it . It is revering the LORD because he is the creator! He is sovereign over every single molecule on earth! A healthy dose of fear doesnt make me shrink down or guilt myself to death. It does encourage me to be all that God wants me to be serving him as his slave. Jesus didnt fear the Father because he was the Father is the flesh!

 

[Magenta]

Serving Him as His slave? Wow. I am His child. I much prefer that

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[PollyAnna]

Serving Him as His slave? Wow. I am His child. I much prefer that

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Romans 6:22
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the fruit you reap leads to holiness, and the outcome is eternal life.

 

[garee]

I think it would be impossible to serve two spiritual Masters. Just as it would to serve two spiritual Fathers of spirits. Men might enjoy the pride but that would not cause us to venerate them as a form of worship as with the Catholics, a must.

How they enjoy the deference paid them on the streets and to be called ‘Rabbi’ and ‘Master’! 8 Don’t ever let anyone call you that. For only God is your Rabbi and all of you are on the same level, as brothers. 9 And don’t address anyone here on earth as ‘Father,’ for only God in heaven should be addressed like that. 10 And don’t be called ‘Master,’ for only one is your master, even the Messiah..Mathew 23:7-10

The Son of man in the temporal corrupted flesh resisted all attempts to be called Master .He turned and gave that honor to the father who has no form and therefore not a man as us. And promised he would send another comforter, when he disappeared out of sight.

This show us that God defines the word good as we continue to walk by faith (the unseen)

And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. Luk 18:18

It does not mean the Son of man did not have the eternal Spirit of Christ but simply we do not know a supernatural God who remains without mother or father beginning of days or end of Spirit life according to the rudiments of nature.....flesh and blood .

But rather the Son of man ate of the will of the Father that worked in him to both will and do the Father good purpose .
Again I believe he defines the word good.

But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work. Joh 4:32

This should be our meat as well.

 

[Magenta]

See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are! The reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
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So you are no longer a slave, but God's child; and since
you are his child, God has made you also an heir.

 

[PollyAnna]

Romans 6:22
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the fruit you reap leads to holiness, and the outcome is eternal life.

"Now if you look at your English Bible, you won’t find that word very often. If you look at the Old Testament in the King James, you will find the word “slave” once. But the Hebrew word appears 800 times in the noun, and nearly 300 in the verb. There is a word in the Old Testament for “slave” that appears eleven hundred times, but in your English Bible it’s translated “slave” once.

If you go to the New Testament, you will find the Greek word for “slave” about 150 times in all its forms. And you will find it actually translated “slave” only a few of those 150 times. The New Testament translators only translate the Greek word for slave “slave” when it’s referring to an actual physical slave, or when it’s referring to an inanimate object, like “slaves of sin” or “slaves of righteousness.”
So there is this concept of slavery in the Scripture that has been completely hidden to the English reader. Now this was by design because the word “slave” is the most important, all-encompassing, and clarifying word to describe a Christian used in the New Testament, and yet whenever a Christian is in view, it’s not translated “slave.” The word is doulos. Have you heard that word? The word is doulos. In the Greek, that word means “slave”--never means anything but “slave.” It doesn’t mean “servant”; it doesn’t mean “worker”; it doesn’t mean “hired hand”; it doesn’t mean “helper.” There are six or seven Greek words that mean “servant” in some form. Doulos never means “servant.” A servant is someone hired to do something. The slave is someone owned. Big difference--huge difference--and yet all through the New Testament the word “slave” is masked by the word “servant,” or some form of the word “servant.” Truly a remarkable thing.Now if you look at your English Bible, you won’t find that word very often. If you look at the Old Testament in the King James, you will find the word “slave” once. But the Hebrew word appears 800 times in the noun, and nearly 300 in the verb. There is a word in the Old Testament for “slave” that appears eleven hundred times, but in your English Bible it’s translated “slave” once.
If you go to the New Testament, you will find the Greek word for “slave” about 150 times in all its forms. And you will find it actually translated “slave” only a few of those 150 times. The New Testament translators only translate the Greek word for slave “slave” when it’s referring to an actual physical slave, or when it’s referring to an inanimate object, like “slaves of sin” or “slaves of righteousness.”
So there is this concept of slavery in the Scripture that has been completely hidden to the English reader. Now this was by design because the word “slave” is the most important, all-encompassing, and clarifying word to describe a Christian used in the New Testament, and yet whenever a Christian is in view, it’s not translated “slave.” The word is doulos. Have you heard that word? The word is doulos. In the Greek, that word means “slave”--never means anything but “slave.” It doesn’t mean “servant”; it doesn’t mean “worker”; it doesn’t mean “hired hand”; it doesn’t mean “helper.” There are six or seven Greek words that mean “servant” in some form. Doulos never means “servant.” A servant is someone hired to do something. The slave is someone owned. Big difference--huge difference--and yet all through the New Testament the word “slave” is masked by the word “servant,” or some form of the word “servant.” Truly a remarkable thing."


The article on the study in its entirety is here:
Servant or Slave?

 

[Magenta]

He came to that which was His own, but His own did not receive Him. Yet to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.