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Feelings by themselves are not barometers of truth. Feelings not birthed from the truth of who Christ is in us and who we are in Him because of His finished work, can become strongholds that the enemy can oppress us and use to deceive us. Greater is He that is in us then he that is in the world.
Feelings birthed from our new creation that is in Christ are legitimate and can be followed. Jesus was moved by compassion which is a feeling that comes from being love.
Feelings birthed from our new creation that is in Christ are legitimate and can be followed. Jesus was moved by compassion which is a feeling that comes from being love.
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This is not salvation. It is the sin unto physical death for believers. If we stay in a constant state of pride and think we are better than other believers and don't come out of it, the Lord takes us home. We can look at Job As an example. The friends thought that Job had some secret sin that the Lord was disciplining him for . But we can see that Job was suffering for blessing, because he was a mature believer.
It is actually what was happening to the Galileans. They were being accused of suffering for their sins, but they were actually under suffering because they were ADVANCING in the Christian way of life.
Go to the Greek and look at the word "repent" used here. then go to "He is not willing that any should perish....."
We change our mind about Christ for salvation.
We change our mind about how we are acting or feeling to advance in the Christian way of life.
It is actually what was happening to the Galileans. They were being accused of suffering for their sins, but they were actually under suffering because they were ADVANCING in the Christian way of life.
Go to the Greek and look at the word "repent" used here. then go to "He is not willing that any should perish....."
We change our mind about Christ for salvation.
We change our mind about how we are acting or feeling to advance in the Christian way of life.
Repent doesn't mean to turn away from sin.
Look it up
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When the Bible says to turn from sin, it says, "turn from sin".
It really is the most amazing thing!
Strong's Concordance
-JGIG
Look it up
.When the Bible says to turn from sin, it says, "turn from sin".
It really is the most amazing thing!
Strong's Concordance
metanoeó: to change one's mind or purpose
Original Word: μετανοέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metanoeó
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh'-o)
Short Definition: I repent, change my mind
Definition: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God), repent.HELPS Word-studies
3340 metanoéō (from 3326 /metá, "changed after being with" and3539 /noiéō, "think") – properly, "think differently after," "after a change of mind"; to repent (literally, "think differently afterwards").
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metanoeó
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh'-o)
Short Definition: I repent, change my mind
Definition: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God), repent.HELPS Word-studies
3340 metanoéō (from 3326 /metá, "changed after being with" and3539 /noiéō, "think") – properly, "think differently after," "after a change of mind"; to repent (literally, "think differently afterwards").
metanoia: change of mind, repentance
Original Word: μετάνοια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: metanoia
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an'-oy-ah)
Short Definition: repentance, a change of mind
Definition: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 3341 metánoia – literally, "a change of mind" ("after-thought"); repentance. See 3340 /metanoeō ("repent").
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: metanoia
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an'-oy-ah)
Short Definition: repentance, a change of mind
Definition: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 3341 metánoia – literally, "a change of mind" ("after-thought"); repentance. See 3340 /metanoeō ("repent").
-JGIG
Actually Jesus said "Sin no more" also. So why disciplemike are you limiting the answer to Repent only???
We are to Repent and sin no more,BUT we are sinners and we will continue to SIN, even you disciplemike.
The KEY step is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. This is the KEY step and all other steps will fall in line disciplemike.
We are to Repent and sin no more,BUT we are sinners and we will continue to SIN, even you disciplemike.
The KEY step is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. This is the KEY step and all other steps will fall in line disciplemike.
It is strange that some people believe sin does not affect their relationship with God,but it is repentance,not wanting sin in their life anymore that caused them to have a relationship with Jesus in the first place.
If they could not even begin to have a relationship with Jesus without first repentance,not wanting sin in their life anymore,what makes them think that sin does not affect their relationship with Jesus afterward.
If they could not even begin to have a relationship with Jesus without first repentance,not wanting sin in their life anymore,what makes them think that sin does not affect their relationship with Jesus afterward.
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Wrong, it is the conviction of the Holy Spirit that drew their heart to Jesus and after that, they hated sin. You know as well as every one else, you felt that tug at your heart. The word was preached or sung at some point and then you gave your heart to Jesus. Sinners enjoy their sin, they would rather do nothing else but sin. That is the miracle of preaching, teaching, living, and singing the word of God.
Good one DiscipleMike:
Luke 13:1" There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices." After their leader Judas Gaulonites died at the hands of Pilate, his followers were disbursed and slain while they were sacrificing to the Lord. They, Galilaeans believed only in God and would not pay tribute to any man calling himself "lord" as Cesar did.
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Luke 13:2 "And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?" It appears the Galileans were wicked people during the period of Jesus Christ. This verse tells us that the people (hebrew/jewish) thought that the Galilaeans deserved their fate and said it in the way of passing judgement on them. This idea of judging the character of other people is brought out a little clearer in the next verse.
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Luke 13: " I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." This is a rebuke of the people for passing a hasty or otherwise judgement on the Galilaeans and warns them of impending eternal death if they do not repent.
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Moral: Judging others (hastily or otherwise) is a sin that needs to be repented for. For without repentance, there can be no salvation.
Luke 13:1" There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices." After their leader Judas Gaulonites died at the hands of Pilate, his followers were disbursed and slain while they were sacrificing to the Lord. They, Galilaeans believed only in God and would not pay tribute to any man calling himself "lord" as Cesar did.
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Luke 13:2 "And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?" It appears the Galileans were wicked people during the period of Jesus Christ. This verse tells us that the people (hebrew/jewish) thought that the Galilaeans deserved their fate and said it in the way of passing judgement on them. This idea of judging the character of other people is brought out a little clearer in the next verse.
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Luke 13: " I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." This is a rebuke of the people for passing a hasty or otherwise judgement on the Galilaeans and warns them of impending eternal death if they do not repent.
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Moral: Judging others (hastily or otherwise) is a sin that needs to be repented for. For without repentance, there can be no salvation.
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My take on this was very similar to Blade's. I think the real issue here was that the individuals being addressed were self righteous and quick to accuse those who had suffered tragedy as being punished by God. Clearly, they considered these Galilaeans to be sinners and deserving of judgement. I've noticed this happens a lot actually in our society today. Some Christians are very quick to declare natural disasters and other tragedies as the punishment of God on certain communities or groups. In some extreme cases, it seems like certain religious groups almost take a perverse joy in what they deem to be the judgement of God on sinners. Just recently, I cringed when I read and heard the responses of certain Christians ( not on this forum) after the shooting at the gay night club in Orlando. As Christians we are never to rejoice in the destruction of others.
I think Christ, knowing the hearts of those he addressed, used this example of the Galilaeans to exhort them to repent of their self righteousness. His message was that regardless of whether or not we deem ourselves to be more righteous than others, we are all equally sinful in His eyes and will be lost eternally if we do not repent and seek Him. It is only because of the mercy of God that we are all not punished in this life for our sins.
I think Christ, knowing the hearts of those he addressed, used this example of the Galilaeans to exhort them to repent of their self righteousness. His message was that regardless of whether or not we deem ourselves to be more righteous than others, we are all equally sinful in His eyes and will be lost eternally if we do not repent and seek Him. It is only because of the mercy of God that we are all not punished in this life for our sins.
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You know as I read all the responses I was reminded of Revelation 3:15-16, “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. I believe this coincides with the op because if we have a desire to follow Christ we need to fully turn away from this world and as was mentioned turn to love which is found in Christ and we can't sit on the fence, but make a decision which we will reap positive results in return if we choose Christ
I am simply quoting a Scripture.
Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and everything else will be added.
If you are struggling to "feel alive" then you could seek His Kingdom in this area of your life.
What is He saying about it? What is He doing? What is His truth that will set you free?
C.
Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and everything else will be added.
If you are struggling to "feel alive" then you could seek His Kingdom in this area of your life.
What is He saying about it? What is He doing? What is His truth that will set you free?
C.
I would suggest that we are not to measure by outward circumstances as if an evil can only befall those who are not walking aright. But are by the faith of Christ the word of God. All have sinned and continue all the days of there lives by falling short of the glory of God.
The commandment to repent is the work of God turning a person towards God so the then they can repent. Repentance is a work of God . Not a work of our conscience a source of our own faith after the imaginations of ones own heart. Which it seems was the hope of those judged by mere appearance the secrets of men as if they could see into the heart of another.
Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
The commandment to repent is the work of God turning a person towards God so the then they can repent. Repentance is a work of God . Not a work of our conscience a source of our own faith after the imaginations of ones own heart. Which it seems was the hope of those judged by mere appearance the secrets of men as if they could see into the heart of another.
Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Repentance
But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live.
Ezek 18:21-22
I look at things in a simple way. Being righteous is just doing the right thing.
Whether you believe in God or not, the basic principles remain the same.
So anyone can repent of a bad deed and do good things. This is where the word came
from, the acknowledgement of evil deeds, and the desire to do good deeds.
God laid on top of this the relationship with Him, as the power of righteousness or doing good.
Now many acknowledge the reality of doing good but divorce it from the creator.
Gods summary on this is selfishness and self justification will rot any attempt to stand
alone in love and righteousness, and is only brought to life through Him, the creator.
Some hate this idea of doing good in and of itself, they call it sin without God being
involved, even though in reality God is involved with everything. But I see God has
created this world so everything can freely share the love He has given them as loving
beings, to experience part of the creators nature. But it is only temporary, unless it
is brought into a living relationship with Him.
It is why though we all taste a little bit of heaven, without the Lord we will perish.
It is why we are all strangely warmed by Christs words, but they only become a
reality when we start to believe on His word and follow.
But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live.
Ezek 18:21-22
I look at things in a simple way. Being righteous is just doing the right thing.
Whether you believe in God or not, the basic principles remain the same.
So anyone can repent of a bad deed and do good things. This is where the word came
from, the acknowledgement of evil deeds, and the desire to do good deeds.
God laid on top of this the relationship with Him, as the power of righteousness or doing good.
Now many acknowledge the reality of doing good but divorce it from the creator.
Gods summary on this is selfishness and self justification will rot any attempt to stand
alone in love and righteousness, and is only brought to life through Him, the creator.
Some hate this idea of doing good in and of itself, they call it sin without God being
involved, even though in reality God is involved with everything. But I see God has
created this world so everything can freely share the love He has given them as loving
beings, to experience part of the creators nature. But it is only temporary, unless it
is brought into a living relationship with Him.
It is why though we all taste a little bit of heaven, without the Lord we will perish.
It is why we are all strangely warmed by Christs words, but they only become a
reality when we start to believe on His word and follow.
You know as I read all the responses I was reminded of Revelation 3:15-16, “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16 So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. I believe this coincides with the op because if we have a desire to follow Christ we need to fully turn away from this world and as was mentioned turn to love which is found in Christ and we can't sit on the fence, but make a decision which we will reap positive results in return if we choose Christ