Put to Death?

[miknik5]

So you don't think Christ paid for the sins of the whole world? He only died for the elect?

Are you a Hyper-calvinist?

Christ didn't reconcile the WHOLE world to Himself so ALL men have the opportunity for salvation?


IS this what your saying?

That isn't what I'm saying. I'm saying that we don't know who the wheat or the Tara's are but that we were told to cast the seed and the seed will fall where it will fall. We have no power or right to decide who will hear and believe but we were told to go

and the seed will prosper for GODS WORD AND TRUTH will not return to HIM void but will go out and accomplish HIS PURPOSE!

 

[miknik5]

also we read

Ecclesiastes 8:8 (KJV)

There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power inthe day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.​

We also read what is written in Jeremiah 31
we also read what is written in John3:8
we also read what is written in 1John 2
we also read what is written in 1 Corinthians 1-3

all these TRUTHS are written because the man of THE SPIRIT judges all things but is himself not judged

for the earthly man can't accept the things of THE SPIRIT since they are spiritually discerned. And it is the HOLY SPIRIT(in the believer) who seeks the hidden things of GOD and it is the HOLY SPIRIT (in the believer) who reveals the hidden things of GOD that can ONLY be known by HIS SPIRIT

 

[prove-all]

the man of THE SPIRIT

I never heard this phrase, can you show me where this is?
and maybe even explain what you are talking about.

 

[miknik5]

From the beginning GODS steadfast word said that man would have to give an account of the lifeblood of every man and animal


we will

 

[Bladerunner]

PaulMack:

The answer to your question is NO<NO<NO!

we are not under the old law and neither is Israel although a lot of the Israelites will tell you they are. For this reason and the fact that they did not and still do not (some of them) accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah, they are condemned to go through the tribulations.

Romans 7:6 - But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not [in] the oldness of the letter.

There is only on way now.


John 3:15-17 (KJV)

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.



Gospel of Jesus Christ:


1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV)

15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

 

[JGIG]

God also said to the Israelites that all who don't rest on Sunday they shall be put to death.

I don't think we are to. We are more humane now. Ibdo not think God would want us to kill one other nowadays

do you have any bible verses for this statement?

14 You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death. (from Ex. 31)


32 While the Israelites were in the wilderness, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day.33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly,34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp.”36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the Lord commanded Moses. (from Num. 15)​

21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? (from Gal. 4)​

-JGIG

 

[miknik5]

1 Corinthians 2:14 - 15

 

[prove-all]

From the beginning GODS steadfast word said that man would have to give an account of the lifeblood of every man and animal


we will

the bible does not say man is to give an account of the lifeblood of every man and animal.


what the bible does say


Genesis 9:6 (KJV)

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.


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For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar
to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood;
and without shedding of blood is no remission.
​

 

[prove-all]

14 You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. ​

you do know sunday is not the sabbath right?


Originally Posted by Huglife

God also said to the Israelites that all who don't rest on [Sunday] they shall be put to death.


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[miknik5]

you do know sunday is not the sabbath right?


Originally Posted by Huglife

God also said to the Israelites that all who don't rest on [Sunday] they shall be put to death.


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Yes but Sunday's a NEW DAY!

you could even say that after the six days of creating and resting on the sabbath another Sunday (first day of a new week) is like a new /eighth day. As if those of the 6th day have passed through the seventh day and have been made....New?

like circumcision!

 

[resurrection33]

Are we still to put to Death those who commit certain sins?

Leviticus 20:11-13
[SUP]10 [/SUP]‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. [SUP]11 [/SUP]If there is a man who lies with his father’s wife, he has uncovered his father’s nakedness; both of them shall surely be put to death, their bloodguiltiness is upon them. [SUP]12 [/SUP]If there is a man who lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed incest, their bloodguiltiness is upon them. [SUP]13 [/SUP]If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.

[3] The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst
[4] they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery.
[5] Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such. What do you say about her?"
[6] This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground.
[7] And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her."
[8] And once more he bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground.
[9] But when they heard it, they went away, one by one, beginning with the eldest, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him.
[10] Jesus looked up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
[11] She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you; go, and do not sin again." John 8:3-11 RSV

 

[prove-all]

Yes but Sunday's a NEW DAY!

again a lot of talk and no bible verses to backup you claims.

1 Corinthians 7:19 (KJV)

Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing,
but the keeping of the commandments of God​

 

[miknik5]

again a lot of talk and no bible verses to backup you claims.

1 Corinthians 7:19 (KJV)

Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of thecommandments of God​

The testimony of JESUS is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY
every WORD of SCRIPTURE spoken in signs and shadows pointed to all the hidden SPIRITUAL TRUTHS AND REALITIES found IN CHRIST JESUS

 

[miknik5]

To the testimony AND the Law
if they do not speak according to The Word it is because there is no light therein

 

[prove-all]

To the testimony AND the Law
if they do not speak according to The Word it is because there is no light therein

then why speek againest the Sabbath?
is it not in the law? why try and make another day an eightday of the week


Luke 16:31 (KJV)

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.​

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show me where God has blessed and made holy any other day?
Did God make it unholy now? I thought the Sabbath was a Gift to man.
Did God take it away? is it not recorded that from one sabbath to another
all flesh would worship Him in the future

 

[miknik5]

then why speek againest the Sabbath?
is it not in the law? why try and make another day an eightday of the week


Luke 16:31 (KJV)

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,
neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.​

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show me where God has blessed and made holy any other day?
Did God make it unholy now? I thought the Sabbath was a Gift to man.
Did God take it away? is it not recorded that from one sabbath to another
all flesh would worship Him in the future

I don't speak against the sabbath for all things and all days are to be enjoyed and all things are to be done for HIM as honoring HIM first and foremost in all that we do

 

[prove-all]

I don't speak against the sabbath for all things and all days are to be enjoyed and all things are to be done for HIM as honoring HIM first and foremost in all that we do

then can you show me where a new 8th day is now you speak , instead of the sabbath



quote-Yes but Sunday's a NEW DAY!



or where sunday is this new day now?
you speak againest the sabbath by changing the day

 

[miknik5]

then can you show me where a new 8th day is now you speak , instead of the sabbath



Yes but Sunday's a NEW DAY!



or where sunday is the new day

You show me where the sabbath was considered any other day then the seventh day which was considered the day of rest

 

[miknik5]

Also please tell me the significance of circumcising the male children eight days after his physical birth

 

[miknik5]

And why those who wanted to celebrate the Passover need to be circumcised