What is the strong delusion that would cause people to believe a lie?

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JaumeJ

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The response is in the quote. If you read, it is because people loved evil that the spirit of delusion
is spread over the earth so that those who loved (past tense) evil would believe lies.

I live in Spain, not biggy, but I see and hear people believing lies in all western countries. It must be so elsewhere such is in the far east because there are no protests coming from other quarters.

All is occurring in its time. Jesus Christ is in charge, amen..
This reason is found in Thessalonians speaking of the spirit of delusion and why people believe lies. Anyone can see this in play in observing some of the political candidates voted for in various countries. Peopl are already all to quick to believe lies,.
 

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Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2Th 2:9

I think the key is found in the word wonders as to the source.

The strong delusion to believe the lie would be in respect to those who add to the scriptures coming from another source of faith other than... as it is written called a “lying wonder”. With wonder the faith principle meaning the unseen, made know by what it seen, a sign.

In that way a clear distinction between a sign and lying wonder must be made.Its an evil generation the generation of Adam that does seek after signs used as wonders in order to bring belief, faith

The focus is on the wonder that which bring faith and not so much the sign. Signs are for observing while wonders draw to the unseen.

Today seeing what we had in part up until the last book was written giving us the perfect as in compete. It would be any one who says they have received a vision or a new revelation. That would make them a liar. The possibility of God bring any new revelation is sealed up till the end .

Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, "if it were possible", they shall deceive the very elect. Mat 24:23
In the context of 2 Thessalonians 2nd chapter, signs and lying wonders that opposes the tradition taught of us as Paul reminded us in verses 13-15 has to do with those that preach receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation after a sign of tongues ( which never comes with interpretation & can be found in the world's religions, idolatry, occult, as well as cults in christianity ) . That is the whole point for Paul reminding us how and when we had received the Holy Spirit in vs 13-15.

So like all those movements of the "Spirit" where they believe the Holy Spirit is coming and falling on saved believers again and again and again is NOT the Holy Spirit.

Even they that preach receiving the Holy Spirit apart from salvation after a sign of tongues is not of Him.

Or they that preach receiving ANOTHER baptism with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of tongues.

And yet God's gift of tongues was never to serve as a sign or proof or evidence to the already saved believers for anything. 1 Corinthians 14:22

And so saved believers preaching this apostasy of receiving tongues ( which is why it NEVER comes with interpretation ) by seeking to receive what they believe is the Holy Spirit apart from salvation, have fallen away from the faith in giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, having their conscience seared with a hot iron in hypocrisy by calling for the Holy Spirit to come when He has been in them since their salvation and CANNOT be received again.

That is the strong delusion that God will permit for believing the lie ; that iniquity that a saved believer can receive the Holy Spirit apart from salvation after a sign of tongues with no interpretation or/and any other sensational signs of confusion in the flesh.

So the falling away from the faith is happening now and in droves, indicating that God will be coming soon at the pre trib rapture event to judge His House first....

May God peradventure to recover some from this snare of the devil to chase no more after seducing spirits to receive after a sign by returning to their first love, the Bridegroom, and be free from being a captive of the devil to shun vain & profane babbling to pray normally which is the will of God the Father in Christ Jesus concerning any saint.

Otherwise, they are at risk of being cast into the great tribulation at the pre trib rapture event to be received later on as vessels unto dishonor in His House after the great tribulation.
 
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To me a good comparison is:

Romans 1:

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
 
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Job 1:

8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”
 

stonesoffire

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Looking for another to save, other than the Lord. Unbelief.
 

Bladerunner

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Agreed. That same chapter tells you what the lie is about. What is the information that we are not to accept?
You start out calling it a lie....without adding anything from your perspective. Yet, you call for all others to discuss it as if the LIE was true. ????????
 

nddreamer

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I'm with Stephen63. What are the lies? All that matters is mammon. There are no limits to personal behavior. No one is responsible for their choices. Cultures groom those who become their leaders. I believe "the son of perdition" (2 Thes. 2:3) will come from among us. I'm witnessing the "me generation". Is it such a big step to become the "I am god" generation when the real God is being removed from our streets? We used to be a righteous nation. The lies are destroying us.
 
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the strong delusion is the image of the beast (perceiving that one can live a life of sin and surely not die), whereas he/she loves not the truth but rejoice in iniquity and lies........be blessed
 

Bladerunner

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I'm with Stephen63. What are the lies? All that matters is mammon. There are no limits to personal behavior. No one is responsible for their choices. Cultures groom those who become their leaders. I believe "the son of perdition" (2 Thes. 2:3) will come from among us. I'm witnessing the "me generation". Is it such a big step to become the "I am god" generation when the real God is being removed from our streets? We used to be a righteous nation. The lies are destroying us.

NDDreamer it appears you are steering in the wrong direction.....Everyone has a choice to make including you. You cannot make their choice and they yours. Understand what I am trying to say?

If you believe, truly believe in Jesus Christ and His Gospel, You don't have to worry about all the sin, etc. around you. The time after the Rapture will happen as it states in Revelation 4-22. It will not effect you as a true Believer since you will be in Heaven with Jesus and all the other Church (Body of Christ Saints), You may have tears for those left behind but even those are wiped away in the end.

The "Son of Perdition" will come from Mankind. He will be of 'Assyrian' descent and is already most likely here on earth. In fact, I think Satan has had someone ready to step in as the Antichrist, since the first church 2000 years ago. Why,,, because after the rapture happens, only can the Antichrist be become known to the public. We also see this in Rev. 6:2 as he is the rider on the White Horse. Notice the Bow and NO ARROWS.... WHY? because he is to come conquering the world with PEACE.

SO you see, that you have the power within you to change your life around and not worry about anything. Because the though of being with Jesus in the end surpasses every threat of things to come here on Earth. BUT YOU DON'T MUCH TIME.. Do NOT TARY!

 
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This topic has been on the mind and heart of my wife and I lately. It is because we have been prompted to pray about this more and more. Not just for ourselves, but others.

It is simply our desire to not be deceived and we know that only God can prevent this. It is our desire that no one would fall prey to any deception and be caught off guard when it comes to God's plan for his people.

The question as to what is the lie that is warned about in 2 Thessalonians 2 has come up a lot lately.

Through prayer and meditating on this, we discovered that the answer is located right in that same chapter.

I have heard a lot of theories about what the lie is about. I just wanted to present this for others to study and discuss.

I have opened this topic as a place to discuss 2 Thessalonians 2. What is written there? What does it say not to be misled about?

Please try to refrain from debate about what you believe and stick to what is written in those scriptures. I hope that this will come to others as a blessing that might give understanding on this topic.

Grace and peace be to all of you through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.

Searching out the understanding of Mathew 12 below can aid in understanding what it means to send a strong delusion to believe a lie, as to why he sends the delusion to one but not to His Elect.

The forgiven ones that do not blaspheme against the Holy Spirit (not seen) will not be given the strong delusion that does come by lying sign and wonders(the faith principle) .

Against the Son of man they will be forgiven..

Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

The examples shown in the scripture give us a better understanding I believe.