Have you lost your silver coin?
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That's the cool thing about parables in the bible, they are written in such a way that anybody can have a theory of there meaning. Not saying the video is a bad theory just simply saying its one of many out there.
IMO all three parables in Luke have similar meanings about the statement of being lost
Luke 15:4 Luke 15:8 Luke 15:11
The immediate occasion of these three inimitable parables, which have found their way to the heart of the world, needs to be remembered in order to grasp their import and importance. They are intended to vindicate Christ’s conduct in associating with outcasts and disreputable persons whom His Pharisaical critics thought a great deal too foul to be touched by clean hands. They were not meant to set forth with anything like completeness either what wanderers had to do to go back to God, or what God had done to bring wanderers back to Himself. If this had been remembered, many misconceptions, widespread and mischievous, especially affecting the meaning of the last of the three parables-that of the Prodigal Son-would have been avoided. The purpose of the parables accounts for Christ’s accepting the division which His antagonists made of men, into ‘righteous,’ like themselves, and ‘unclean,’ like the publicans and sinners. There was a far deeper truth to be spoken about the condition of humanity than that. But for the purposes of His argument Christ passes it by. The remembrance of the intention of the parables explains their incompleteness as a statement of what people call ‘the way of salvation.’ They were not meant to teach us that, but they were meant to show us that a human instinct which prizes lost things because they are lost has something corresponding to it in the divine nature, and so to vindicate the conduct of Christ.
IMO all three parables in Luke have similar meanings about the statement of being lost
Luke 15:4 Luke 15:8 Luke 15:11
The immediate occasion of these three inimitable parables, which have found their way to the heart of the world, needs to be remembered in order to grasp their import and importance. They are intended to vindicate Christ’s conduct in associating with outcasts and disreputable persons whom His Pharisaical critics thought a great deal too foul to be touched by clean hands. They were not meant to set forth with anything like completeness either what wanderers had to do to go back to God, or what God had done to bring wanderers back to Himself. If this had been remembered, many misconceptions, widespread and mischievous, especially affecting the meaning of the last of the three parables-that of the Prodigal Son-would have been avoided. The purpose of the parables accounts for Christ’s accepting the division which His antagonists made of men, into ‘righteous,’ like themselves, and ‘unclean,’ like the publicans and sinners. There was a far deeper truth to be spoken about the condition of humanity than that. But for the purposes of His argument Christ passes it by. The remembrance of the intention of the parables explains their incompleteness as a statement of what people call ‘the way of salvation.’ They were not meant to teach us that, but they were meant to show us that a human instinct which prizes lost things because they are lost has something corresponding to it in the divine nature, and so to vindicate the conduct of Christ.
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Your law is truth. The law of sin and death.
Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Very true, BeyondET.
If we read from Luke 15:1, we see the pharisees and scribes murmured because Jesus received sinners. So in vs 3, Jesus started teaching in parables.
Jesus pointed out in Luke 15:7 that there is more joy in heaven over one sinner repenting than over 99 just persons who need no repentance. The pharisees and scribes believed they were righteous and needed no repentance. Jesus pointed out the need for repentance on the part of the pharisees and scribes, but they did not hear what He had to say and ended up deriding Jesus (Luke 16:14).
Jesus pointed out to them in Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
There is much rejoicing in heaven when someone comes to faith. That is the point of the parables in Luke 15.
If we read from Luke 15:1, we see the pharisees and scribes murmured because Jesus received sinners. So in vs 3, Jesus started teaching in parables.
Jesus pointed out in Luke 15:7 that there is more joy in heaven over one sinner repenting than over 99 just persons who need no repentance. The pharisees and scribes believed they were righteous and needed no repentance. Jesus pointed out the need for repentance on the part of the pharisees and scribes, but they did not hear what He had to say and ended up deriding Jesus (Luke 16:14).
Jesus pointed out to them in Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
There is much rejoicing in heaven when someone comes to faith. That is the point of the parables in Luke 15.
Here is self-test I read somewhere.
Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law or by the hearing of faith?
Was anyone's answer Matthew 16:17?
Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law or by the hearing of faith?
Was anyone's answer Matthew 16:17?
So You Want to Keep The Law? God's Law or a Watered-Down Version?
So interesting that the teaching quotes Psalm 89, yet 119 'Ministries' does not teach the Law as it is written, but a watered-down, 'keepable' law of their own creation:
And they are correct in saying that God has not broken the Old Covenant, but they do break it AND disrespect the Law as it was given by preaching their watered-down version.
God did bring the New Covenant, promised in Jeremiah 31 because Israel did break the Old Covenant, and the New Covenant also made a way for those 'far away and with no hope' (Gentiles, see Eph. 2) to enter into relationship with God through faith in Christ.
Once we enter into faith in Christ, we are dead to the Law and alive in Christ, and Scripture reiterates that we are released from the Law (see Rom. 7-10, Gal. 2, Eph. 2, Col. 2).
Go ahead and attempt to keep the Law - But keep it the way GOD wrote it, and not the watered-down gruel that Law 'keepers' like 119 Ministries serve you. For the Law was designed to show you that you cannot keep it (just as Israel never could) and to point you to the solution to that problem, Christ!
As for the video - a plausible theory, because Jesus taught the Law to those born under the Law. That said, He ALSO told a parable about the Good Shepherd Who had 100 sheep and one was lost. That Shepherd, much like the woman, did not rest until the lost sheep was found.
Using Luke 15:10 to say that the angels rejoice when one comes back to the seventh day Sabbath - Really?! Are they serious?
Especially when the context of the chapter goes on to give the account of the parable of the Prodigal, which is all about the lost son returning to the Father, not to the Sabbath. Ask yourself: Was the rejoicing that followed because he came back to a seventh day Sabbath?
Another misleading teaching by 119 'Ministries' which asks flawed questions, drawing false conclusions.
-JGIG
So interesting that the teaching quotes Psalm 89, yet 119 'Ministries' does not teach the Law as it is written, but a watered-down, 'keepable' law of their own creation:
30 If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;
31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;
32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail.
34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. (from Psalm 89)
31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;
32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail.
34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips. (from Psalm 89)
And they are correct in saying that God has not broken the Old Covenant, but they do break it AND disrespect the Law as it was given by preaching their watered-down version.
God did bring the New Covenant, promised in Jeremiah 31 because Israel did break the Old Covenant, and the New Covenant also made a way for those 'far away and with no hope' (Gentiles, see Eph. 2) to enter into relationship with God through faith in Christ.
Once we enter into faith in Christ, we are dead to the Law and alive in Christ, and Scripture reiterates that we are released from the Law (see Rom. 7-10, Gal. 2, Eph. 2, Col. 2).
Go ahead and attempt to keep the Law - But keep it the way GOD wrote it, and not the watered-down gruel that Law 'keepers' like 119 Ministries serve you. For the Law was designed to show you that you cannot keep it (just as Israel never could) and to point you to the solution to that problem, Christ!
As for the video - a plausible theory, because Jesus taught the Law to those born under the Law. That said, He ALSO told a parable about the Good Shepherd Who had 100 sheep and one was lost. That Shepherd, much like the woman, did not rest until the lost sheep was found.
Using Luke 15:10 to say that the angels rejoice when one comes back to the seventh day Sabbath - Really?! Are they serious?
Especially when the context of the chapter goes on to give the account of the parable of the Prodigal, which is all about the lost son returning to the Father, not to the Sabbath. Ask yourself: Was the rejoicing that followed because he came back to a seventh day Sabbath?
Another misleading teaching by 119 'Ministries' which asks flawed questions, drawing false conclusions.
-JGIG
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You have got to be kidding us. It actually says in that video that the angels rejoice because the prodigal came back to the 7th day Sabbath?
My goodness how wacky can you get and the constant fact that they are leaving Christ and the love of the Father for us completely out of the scriptures. This is why I keep saying that this "law-keeping" religion is anti-Christ.
My goodness how wacky can you get and the constant fact that they are leaving Christ and the love of the Father for us completely out of the scriptures. This is why I keep saying that this "law-keeping" religion is anti-Christ.
It's a good example of the typical progression of false logic rife in 119 'Ministries' teaching.
They quote the verse as it's written - there is great joy among the angels over the sinner who repents - but it's what they say BEFORE they quote the verse that sets of the REASON for that rejoicing - and in their paradigm, it's a sinner going back to the Law. In the case of their interpretation of 'The Lost Coin', the seventh day Sabbath.
Their interpretation is Law-centered, not Christ-centered.
-JGIG
They quote the verse as it's written - there is great joy among the angels over the sinner who repents - but it's what they say BEFORE they quote the verse that sets of the REASON for that rejoicing - and in their paradigm, it's a sinner going back to the Law. In the case of their interpretation of 'The Lost Coin', the seventh day Sabbath.
Their interpretation is Law-centered, not Christ-centered.
-JGIG
I see you constantly leaving out Christ to commit spiritual adultery with the Law of Moses even though in Christ we are dead to the law of Moses, not under the law of Moses and released from the Law of Moses.
To try to get Christians to go back to the law of Moses for life and living is committing adultery on our Lord Jesus Christ. I do see a lot wrong with that. This is why your religion is anti-Christ.
We are Christian here - joined to Another - the Lord Jesus Christ. The law did it's job and brought us to our Lord.
You should be going to Jewish websites telling them that their Messiah has come - instead you come to a Christian website and try to get people to desert Christ for the law of Moses. Gal. 1:6.
Paul says that he didn't stand for the Judaizers for even one hour so that the truth would remain. Gal.2:3-5. We will do the same here.
To try to get Christians to go back to the law of Moses for life and living is committing adultery on our Lord Jesus Christ. I do see a lot wrong with that. This is why your religion is anti-Christ.
We are Christian here - joined to Another - the Lord Jesus Christ. The law did it's job and brought us to our Lord.
You should be going to Jewish websites telling them that their Messiah has come - instead you come to a Christian website and try to get people to desert Christ for the law of Moses. Gal. 1:6.
Paul says that he didn't stand for the Judaizers for even one hour so that the truth would remain. Gal.2:3-5. We will do the same here.
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Simple...read your threads and it will be readily apparent to you as many people have shown you this religion is anti-Christ.
In short it's going back to require that a Christian that comes to Christ needs to live by the law of Moses.
Galatians 2:3-5 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] But not even Titus, who was with me, though he was a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But it was because of the false brethren secretly brought in, who had sneaked in to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, in order to bring us into bondage.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
In short it's going back to require that a Christian that comes to Christ needs to live by the law of Moses.
Galatians 2:3-5 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] But not even Titus, who was with me, though he was a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But it was because of the false brethren secretly brought in, who had sneaked in to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, in order to bring us into bondage.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But we did not yield in subjection to them for even an hour, so that the truth of the gospel would remain with you.
Jesus said Repent and believe the gospel. The gospel is the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ - NOT the law of Moses.
Mark 1:14-15 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Now after John had been taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God,
[SUP]15 [/SUP] and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
No one here is going to fall for your anti-Christ religion. Go to a Jewish website and tell them about their Messiah if you are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ.
We Christians are not going to desert our Lord Jesus for your religion.