WE ARE CLEAN

ladylynn · Oct 10, 2016

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Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him, saying, “I am willing; be cleansed.” Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.[/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"]Most of us are familiar with the healing of the leper in Matthew 8. It is a beautiful account of God’s willingness to touch and heal the sick, no matter how unclean they may be. Whenever we doubt God’s willingness to heal us, we should listen to the words of Jesus again: “I am willing; be cleansed.” He is the same yesterday, today and forever!

Since the Bible is clear about God’s willingness to heal, why do we still have problems with our health? Why do we still experience symptoms in our bodies?

I believe that the answer is found in what Jesus told the leper to do next. He told him to go and show himself to the priest. (Matthew 8:4) This was the law then for lepers who were healed. (Leviticus 14:2–3) And he was to hear the priest pronounce the word “clean” over him. (Leviticus 14:7)

You see, as believers, when we received Jesus, His blood cleansed us from sin as well as sickness. (Isaiah 53:4–5) But we keep hearing people pronounce sin, sickness, poverty and death over us. We keep hearing people tell us that we are unclean, undeserving, poor, weak, and that it is only natural that we grow old and sickly, and die.

God is waiting for a priesthood that will rise up and pronounce His people clean!
“But Pastor Prince, where can I find such priests?”

Who are the priests today? You and I! In fact, we have more authority to pronounce good things than the Levitical priests of the Old Testament. They were just priests. But we are king-priests by the blood of Jesus! (Revelation 1:5–6) Where the word of the king is, there is power. (Ecclesiastes 8:4) And by the word of a priest, every controversy and every assault shall be settled. (Deuteronomy 21:5)

Beloved, God has cleansed you, so pronounce yourself clean! Right now, put your hand on your heart and pronounce good things over yourself. Say, “I pronounce myself clean, righteous, healed, whole and abundantly supplied by the blood of Jesus!” By your word as a king-priest, every assault against you shall be settled![/TD]
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Destined To Reign Devotional

ladylynn · Oct 10, 2016

This is a very encouraging message I wanted to share. Our world is so full of negative things we are bombarded every day. Is it any wonder we are discouraged and even sick? We so need to be reminded of who we are IN Christ and what Jesus is able to do in and through us. We are so blessed.

Gr8grace · Oct 10, 2016

ladylynn said:

I do agree. We are clean,washed and pure in our position in Christ. But in our daily walk, we are in this world and do sin and do evil(human good.)

And we have to acknowledge/name and site our human good(evil) and sin to God.

John 13:10~~New American Standard Bible
Jesus said to him, "He who has bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you."(Judas)

Psalm 32:5~~New American Standard Bible
I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD"; And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

And Psalm 32:5 gives us insight to why we name and site sin and human good to God ALONE. We will carry self guilt. And He removes the guilt we put on OURSELVES.

breno785au · Oct 10, 2016

A breath of fresh air from all the same topics that some people can't seem to move on from, thank you!

..and that's me trying my hardest to speak diplomatically lol

ladylynn · Oct 11, 2016

Gr8grace said:

Yes Gr8ace., very true., we do get our feet dirty in this world. But we are clean before God in Christ.
The acknowledging of Him on our lives each day is what cleanses us from condemnation and confusion and makes our paths straight.

As you know I do not interpret John 1:9 for the believer. Since we are not being made re-righteous. We ARE righteous in Christ. And because Jesus is always making intercession for us we are always righteous and in right standing with Him. It is not our confession it is our possession actually and literally.

There is a bigger picture for the believer. Yes, it's also a guilt issue when we are not aware of our solid sure standing IN Christ. We have the gift of no condemnation already and need to apply it every day.

As the devotional is presenting, the truth is knowing who we are in Christ and walking in that truth believing it is Christ that allows us to do so. Not our ability to confess our sins., but our remembrance to confess Jesus as the answer for all our sins yesterday today and tomorrow. We are in right standing at all times because of Him.

Yonah · Oct 11, 2016

excellent post... we all need to realize our true identity in our Beloved Savior, we are his and no power ofd hell or this world can have sway over us unless we give it.

beta · Oct 11, 2016

The OP is very good but not quite 'in-depth.
We are not yet as clean and pure as we are led to believe...only our PAST sins are COMPLETELY forgiven/remitted/wiped out Rom3v25. That was to give us a fresh start as a new Creature/new Man.
That still leaves our PRESENT sins to be dealt with ! To say they are all paid for and forgiven is true, but does not do away with our present human state still able to sin....that is why we must still be aware of sin, repent and be forgiven. This is not dealing with it once for all time but happens repeatedly which means we are not entirely rid of sin. But we will be IF we continue to 'grow in Christ ! We must not rely and depend on forgiveness as a way out, but strive toward becoming pure and perfect conformed to the image of Christ - that is scripture !
And no - this does not in any way diminish what Jesus has done for us , absolutely not !

Grace777x70 · Oct 11, 2016

We started the life in Christ by believing in our forgiveness which is all based on what Christ has already done and we will end it the exact same way.

Colossians 2:6-7 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in Him,

[SUP]7 [/SUP] having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude.

Here is Peter preaching the true gospel of the grace of Christ. Forgiveness is there to be believed.

( Notice how the Holy Spirit responds to the message that sins are forgiven in Christ. )

Acts 10:43-44 (NASB)
[SUP]43 [/SUP] "Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."

[SUP]44 [/SUP] While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message.

Paul spoke the exact same message in Acts 13

Acts 13:38-39 (NASB)
[SUP]38 [/SUP] "Therefore let it be known to you, brethren, that through Him forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you,

[SUP]39 [/SUP] and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

Marcelo · Oct 12, 2016

beta said:

The OP is very good but not quite 'in-depth.
We are not yet as clean and pure as we are led to believe...only our PAST sins are COMPLETELY forgiven/remitted/wiped out Rom3v25. That was to give us a fresh start as a new Creature/new Man.
That still leaves our PRESENT sins to be dealt with ! To say they are all paid for and forgiven is true, but does not do away with our present human state still able to sin....that is why we must still be aware of sin, repent and be forgiven. This is not dealing with it once for all time but happens repeatedly which means we are not entirely rid of sin. But we will be IF we continue to 'grow in Christ ! We must not rely and depend on forgiveness as a way out, but strive toward becoming pure and perfect conformed to the image of Christ - that is scripture !
And no - this does not in any way diminish what Jesus has done for us , absolutely not !

I feel what you say is true!

breno785au · Oct 12, 2016

beta said:

I'm abit torn and I may rest in the fact that I don't fully understand yet but with the spilling of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin Heb 9:22, hence why there was a continual sacrifice of animals under the old covenant. Jesus on the other hand, His blood spilt and sacrifice is one and for all time... If we have to receive forgiveness from God every time we sin, whether intentionally or not, Jesus would have to spill His blood again to atone for it, or something would have to but obviously we know that Jesus' sacrifice is final.

My carnal wants to tell me you have to continually repent in order to receive forgiveness, it makes sense, that's how us humans deal with one another. But I feel it's different with Our Father, that's not saying I don't apologise and ask to God to forgive me when I screw up, but I think the forgiveness is somewhat 'automatic' for a lack of better words. As if He says, I know son, it's already done.

As I said, I don't quite understand as yet and could be wrong, but that's just some thoughts.

Gr8grace · Oct 12, 2016

beta said:

Yes ,it does diminish what Christ did. All of our sins are forgiven. PERIOD.

But we still deal with sin and human good. the judgement is GONE.

But we had better name and site our human good and sin to God, it is how we regain fellowship and get back into His plan.

If we don't acknowledge or SEE what our problem is or our hang up...........we are not in His plan for our lives.

Skinski7 · Oct 12, 2016

One is only clean if they are walking in holiness and purity by a faith that works by love.

It is so crazy that many people actually believe in a kind of imaginary pie in the sky cleansing which they completely separate from the real condition of heart. It is like a Magic Religion theh believe in.

Angela53510 · Oct 12, 2016

This OP is just wrong! Healing was not and never will be provided for under the atonement. I have posted how wrong this is before. I guess if this thread keeps going, I will retype the whole answer out again.

I detest it when people think this, and condemn people who are not healed. Again, my friend of many years, who was ordained by Kenneth Copeland got a diagnosis of breast cancer. She claimed this false doctrine of healing, and died when the cancer metastasized, because she would not do chemo and radiation.

It is a false doctrine that has killed countless people, who think that God has healed them, when he has not. It is a judgemental and condemnatory false doctrine that blames people who are already suffering terribly. I was judged and condemned when God did not heal me of RA, in the early years of this disease by these kind of false teachers. It was part of what put me in a spiritual desert and drove me away from God.

But praise God, he did not condemn me nor abandon me, but used it for good.

"More than that, we rejoice in our suffering, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character and character produces hope. And hope does not disappoint, because God's love has been poured out through the Spirit who was given to us." Romans 5:3-5

Yes, we will suffer and not just persecution. God uses it all to help us develop character. Character is so much deeper and more important than this shallow belief that we must be healed in this lifetime. We will all be healed one day, when Jesus returns, in the mean while, Christ is developing character in our lives, which lasts for eternity.

This Word Faith heresy is once again being propagated by Joseph Prince and his cult! Very sad, this lie keeps going around. (God does heal, but when he wants, not when we claim it, pronounce it or otherwise think we are "little gods.")

Tintin · Oct 12, 2016

Angela53510 said:

This OP is just wrong! Healing was not and never will be provided for under the atonement. I have posted how wrong this is before. I guess if this thread keeps going, I will retype the whole answer out again.

I detest it when people think this, and condemn people who are not healed. Again, my friend of many years, who was ordained by Kenneth Copeland got a diagnosis of breast cancer. She claimed this false doctrine of healing, and died when the cancer metastasized, because she would not do chemo and radiation.

It is a false doctrine that has killed countless people, who think that God has healed them, when he has not. It is a judgemental and condemnatory false doctrine that blames people who are already suffering terribly. I was judged and condemned when God did not heal me of RA, in the early years of this disease by these kind of false teachers. It was part of what put me in a spiritual desert and drove me away from God.

But praise God, he did not condemn me nor abandon me, but used it for good.

"More than that, we rejoice in our suffering, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character and character produces hope. And hope does not disappoint, because God's love has been poured out through the Spirit who was given to us." Romans 5:3-5

Yes, we will suffer and not just persecution. God uses it all to help us develop character. Character is so much deeper and more important than this shallow belief that we must be healed in this lifetime. We will all be healed one day, when Jesus returns, in the mean while, Christ is developing character in our lives, which lasts for eternity.

This Word Faith heresy is once again being propagated by Joseph Prince and his cult! Very sad, this lie keeps going around. (God does heal, but when he wants, not when we claim it, pronounce it or otherwise think we are "little gods.")

This is key. And any other understanding, like you just shared, is ripe for spiritual abuse and condemnation.

Grace777x70 · Oct 13, 2016

It seems that people have different views on healing and what Christ has done for us. Whenever wee base our faith in what our own personal thoughts and experiences are - or what other people's experiences are - other than what we believe the word of God says - we are elevating our own experiences above the word of God.

I have talked with people that said that they asked Jesus to forgive them of their sins and according to them - He did not. This is living from their own thoughts and experiences which do not line up with the word of God.

Jesus is perfect theology:

Jesus is the exact representation of the nature of the Father. Jesus said no one knows my Father.

Jesus came to reveal the Father and His true nature to us as truth in the OT was progressive and in pictures and in shadows, but it ends with the revelation of Jesus Christ and what He has already done in His finished work.

So, whatever understanding of God we get from the Old Covenant that doesn't line up with Jesus' manifestation of the Father will be inaccurate.

Hebrews 1:1-3 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways
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[SUP]2 [/SUP] in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

[SUP]3 [/SUP] And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

If we want to see what the Father's will is concerning a subject - see what Jesus did while He was on this earth.

If we want to see how the Father views sinners - look to see how Jesus interacted with them. ( both the prostitutes and the religious Pharisees )

If we want to see if it's God's will to heal people in their physical bodies - look to Jesus while He was here on this earth.

( show me where Jesus had rejected someone that came to Him for healing while He was on this earth doing the Father's will )

If we want to see what the Father's discipline looks like - watch Jesus discipline the disciples - He did it with His words.

Jesus and the Father are One in their nature, purpose and love.

Everyone is free to have the faith that they have on subjects but to say that people that believe Jesus is willing to heal us is a cult and a heresy is just spiritual ignorance gone to seed.

Grace777x70 · Oct 13, 2016

Our Father is even more wanting for His children to be well than we are as parents.

Religion has taught us that God gives us sickness to teach us "things".

Would we want our own children to be sick to teach them something? Would we put a sickness on our own children? No, a thousand times No. Our Father loves us more then our mere human love does but He operates from different perspectives and principles then we do on this earth.

.........healing is definitely in the true gospel message.....as can be seen when Paul preached the gospel in Lystra. in Acts 14.

Acts 14:7-10 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and there they continued to preach the gospel.

[SUP]8 [/SUP] At Lystra a man was sitting who had no strength in his feet, lame from his mother's womb, who had never walked.

[SUP]9 [/SUP] This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, who, when he had fixed his gaze on him and had seen that he had faith to be made well,

[SUP]10 [/SUP] said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet." And he leaped up and began to walk.

Paul was preaching the GOSPEL.... the man lame was listening to Paul and then he had faith to be made whole...where did this man get faith to be made whole in his body?

Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

The man that was lame from birth heard in the preaching of the gospel of the grace of Christ that he could be made whole. He believed...Paul saw it in him and encouraged him to act on his faith.

Healing is a part of the gospel of the grace of Christ as the being born-again is.

In the same token there are those people in the body of Christ that seem to look down at those that are sick as if they don't have faith or that there is some sort of sin in their lives and thus really are condemning these people. That is not right nor Christ-like but neither is it Christ-like to call believers in the Lord a cult and a heresy because they do believe healing is for us in Christ.

Let each person have the faith that they have but we need to be sensitive to the others that we don't upset their faith in the Lord.

Grace777x70 · Oct 13, 2016

We should be encouraging those in the body of Christ that are hurting in any capacity and to help them in any way we can and NOT condemning them because they don't believe the way that others do on some subjects. This is fulfilling the law of Christ.

missy2014 · Oct 13, 2016

Grace777x70 said:

We should be encouraging those in the body of Christ that are hurting in any capacity and to help them in any way we can and NOT condemning them because they don't believe the way that others do on some subjects. This is fulfilling the law of Christ.

LOVED THAT!

missy2014 · Oct 13, 2016

Grace777x70 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO1GEG4HeRI

fun video to display the point you using

missy2014 · Oct 13, 2016

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