why does Dr jeffrees say the old testement does not matter anymore ??????
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The OT looked forward to Christ and is part of all scriptures that talked about Jesus Christ. To say that the OT is not for us today shows a serious lack of understanding about Our God. you would be wise to consider not following such a person who says things like this. The whole bible is about Jesus Christ from beginning to end. AS for a scripture reference for this I'm sure there are some but I am unaware of them
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ok, so I looked him up
it's Robert Jeffress...Baptist minister..and very outspoken about some things
from what I have read, but look for yourself, it seems he does have a disconnect between the testaments
when someone creates a thread like this, and has a specific comment about someone or a specific question, it would be beneficial if they provided a link to what they want to discuss
I have no way of knowing if Jeffress said exactly those words or not...I can only state that it seems he does think that belief in Jesus is a new religion, while of course it is actually the promise of the Messiah fulfilled and Jewish converts did not become Gentile or vice versa
so..........
it's Robert Jeffress...Baptist minister..and very outspoken about some things
from what I have read, but look for yourself, it seems he does have a disconnect between the testaments
when someone creates a thread like this, and has a specific comment about someone or a specific question, it would be beneficial if they provided a link to what they want to discuss
I have no way of knowing if Jeffress said exactly those words or not...I can only state that it seems he does think that belief in Jesus is a new religion, while of course it is actually the promise of the Messiah fulfilled and Jewish converts did not become Gentile or vice versa
so..........
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"All scripture is God breathed and is profitable for doctrine and reproof" 2 Timothy 3:16-17
I would say maybe the OT is not needed, but it does matter. Meaning that, the NT is all we need to obtain salvation and how to live it out. The OT gives a muddied or unclear vision of Christ. Christ had to explain to his disciples and followers about what things in the OT meant. The NT sheds light on the OT. The OT does gives additional descriptions, light or facets on God's character, for God never changes and you can see many instances of God's mercy and grace in the OT. The OT confirms, solidifies and grows our Christian faith.
If the OT didn't matter you wouldn't have a new one. The NT has hundreds of verses that can't really be understood without the OT. Revelation alone has several hundred of references that require some knowledge of the OT. It is lack of that knowledge that produces so many arguments about prophecy. I've never heard of Dr Jeffress before but if that is what he teaches it doesn't surprise me.
If Jeffeere's is a false teacher The who am I to believe? I guess i should believe no minister or preacher if that is the case because they all have their own interpretation of the word of God. So now what? I can not listen to any public ministry because i may be told the wrong interpretation of the word of God.
Dr. Jeffrees is wrong. Jesus, Peter, James, and Paul constantly refer to Scripture – the Old Testament – and Paul says this:
[16] All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
[17] that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. 2 Tim 3:16-17 RSV
[16] All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
[17] that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. 2 Tim 3:16-17 RSV
Its not just a matter of direct quotations and prophecies there are many allusions to the old testament in the new. The Holy Spirit inspired the writers of the new testament to use a form of Jewish interpretation known as Midrash to convey spiritual truth that would be impossible to obtain just by reading the literal text. A classic example is used by Matthew when quoting Hosea and Deuteronomy ''Out of Egypt I have called my Son'' The original text is talking about the children of Israel being led from Egypt. Its only by reading Matthew and hindsight we would know that this also refers to Jesus. There is a saying attributed to Augustine that says ''The new within the old concealed the old within the new revealed'' It is very true.
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