THANK GOD ALWAYS!

[Chester]

Please do not derail this thread. It is about giving thanks to our loving Lord because He is for us and we can trust Him in all things.

I agree that this thread should not be derailed - I like it, though I am not a Joseph Prince supporter. I posted a like on this thread even though I knew that this was a JP begun topic.

But, equally, I think that that Grace 777x70 and others should not be trying to derail the other current thread going on about JP by posting music videos, etc. that don't relate to the topic.

 

[Stephen63]

once again, I know or care nothing about mr. prince. I liked this because, you know, it gave God glory, it was nicely written, and I think we should all thank God many times daily.

but as usual, nothing is good enough. everything has to be put under the denominational microscope, and unless it lines up with that doctrine, it is sin, wrong. maybe ya'll should come your religious high horse, and be happy to see God get thanks and Glory, not make arguments against it.

If you want to give God glory, show respect to His word & handle it correctly. Then it will be good enuf, hypergracer.

 

[Grace777x70]

I agree that this thread should not be derailed - I like it, though I am not a Joseph Prince supporter. I posted a like on this thread even though I knew that this was a JP begun topic.

But, equally, I think that that Grace 777x70 and others should not be trying to derail the other current thread going on about JP by posting music videos, etc. that don't relate to the topic.

What were the music videos about in another thread? Was it mocking or slandering people? I honestly don't remember these videos in another thread somewhere as there are so many slanderous threads about this being made recently. If it was a derailing of the thread then I agree that it shouldn't be done too.

Personally I like music videos that speak of the beauty of the grace and love of the Lord. It makes my spirit respond in love towards the Lord for what He has done.

It also encourages me to give thanks to the Lord in all things as the OP talks about no matter what the circumstances of life are screaming at me.

 

[Chester]

What were the music videos about in another thread? Was it mocking or slandering people? I honestly don't remember these videos in another thread somewhere as there are so many slanderous threads about this being made recently. If it was a derailing of the thread then I agree that it shouldn't be done too.

Personally I like music videos that speak of the beauty of the grace and love of the Lord. It makes my spirit respond in love towards the Lord for what He has done.

It also encourages me to give thanks to the Lord in all things as the OP talks about no matter what the circumstances of life are screaming at me.

I am sorry Grace 777 - I could not find music videos you posted on that thread "The Real Truth About Joseph Prince" - the ones I was referring to were posted by other people: and I have no problem with music videos - but I felt these were poor taste - trying to derail the thread.

You did post other videos of JP on this thread and a video clip on "repentance" -- and I have no problem with that!

Sorry about the false accusation!

 

[Grace777x70]

I am sorry Grace 777 - I could not find music videos you posted on that thread "The Real Truth About Joseph Prince" - the ones I was referring to were posted by other people: and I have no problem with music videos - but I felt these were poor taste - trying to derail the thread.

You did post other videos of JP on this thread and a video clip on "repentance" -- and I have no problem with that!

Sorry about the false accusation!

Yes, I had posted those videos to show what JP actually does say so that no twisting of words that are said could continue without seeing what is really being said from the "horse's mouth" himself. It's only fair.

It's ok to disagree but at least we should be speaking accurately about what they are actually saying.

No problem brother.....All is well...Bless you..

 

[eph610]

If you want to give God glory, show respect to His word & handle it correctly. Then it will be good enuf, hypergracer.

why don't you start posting about doctrine you believe is true...

 

[Stephen63]

why don't you start posting about doctrine you believe is true...

Because this site is getting flooded with hypergrace doctrine, & only a handful seem to care about it.

 

[PinkDiamond]

Just like Chester posted, I liked this OP because I liked the topic of discussion. I wasn't liking it to give JP an endorsement. There are almost no threads in the BDF that are not a copy of a JP devotional or an expose thread. There aren't many choices, lol. My contribution to this thread was written in my own words and thoughts. I would really like to get along with everyone in this forum regardless of their stance on JP.

 

[Grace777x70]

Just like Chester posted, I liked this OP because I liked the topic of discussion. I wasn't liking it to give JP an endorsement. There are almost no threads in the BDF that are not a copy of a JP devotional or an expose thread. There aren't many choices, lol. My contribution to this thread was written in my own words and thoughts. I would really like to get along with everyone in this forum regardless of their stance on JP.

And that is the way all threads should be - believers discussing the love and grace of our Lord for us. If people would not come into a thread to malign others in the body of Christ that are talking about being thankful to God in all circumstances - these posts that cause strife and division would not even be here.

The truth is others are posting old threads now. There is probably only one positive thread that is trying to encourage believers to believe what Christ has done for us every other day.

In order for people to get along - they have to have respect for one another. We that believe in the grace of Christ have been called every name in the book - from liars, deceivers, satanic, heretics, lovers of sin, and one even changed my name to "greasy-gracist777x70".

This reveals the malice that is in this BDF - if you have a different view - you are a heretic and you will be railed upon and persecuted. It's the nature of the beast....

 

[Utah]

Oh wow! Isn't this Op awesome? Isn't it tremendous? I mean, it has to be, because it has 16 likes on it!
gb9, ladylynn, posthuman and 13 others like this.
Yahshua, Billyd, Joidevivre, Tinkerbell725, GandalfTheWhite, FlSnookman7, BeyondET, AbigailZeke, Chester, heavenly_bound,PinkDiamond, Gr8grace, HisHolly

But NOOO, it's not awesome, & it ain't tremendous, because it's not true. Saying we ought to give thanks to God is always alright, isn't it?
NO. If a Jehovah's witness says it, & quotes from "their Bible", it ain't worth a snap.
If a Mormon says it, & quotes from the Book of Mormon, it ain't worth diddly squat.

Why? Wrong books, as well as sinners saying something they don't know what they're talking about..... Not to mention their beliefs get glory & acceptance for it.

“Matt 7:15 Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16“You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 17“So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18“A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19“Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20“So then, you will know them by their fruits.

THANKS:
Word: eucaristew
Pronounce: yoo-khar-is-teh'-o
Strongs Number: G2168
Orig: from 2170; to be grateful, i.e. (actively) to express gratitude (towards); specially, to say grace at a meal:--(give) thank(-ful, -s). G2170
Use: TDNT-9:407,1298 Verb
Heb Strong:

1. 1) to be grateful, feel thankful
   2) give thanks

Related scriptures also say "THANKS", NOT GRACE!

Now, to our 16 "LIKERS"..... Where's a BEREAN when you need one? And you wonder why some on here are so "in your face" about things? It tough doing this when so many don't check anything, & end up chewing you out for something you only brought to the light.

HOW MANY TIMES do I have to repeat myself..... Joseph Prince is a deceitful heretic running a hypergrace cult. Noooo..... this isn't a little "mistake"..... it's on purpose, ALL THE TIME!

I have nothing to do with Joseph Prince. That said, whats all the hubbub about giving thanks to God?

 

[Zmouth]

Psalm136:

7 To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:

8 The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:

9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.

For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations. Psalms 100:5

"And God made two great lights;... the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night:" Genesis 1:16

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. Gen 1:5

"And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,..." Genesis 1:17

 

[PinkDiamond]

And that is the way all threads should be - believers discussing the love and grace of our Lord for us. If people would not come into a thread to malign others in the body of Christ that are talking about being thankful to God in all circumstances - these posts that cause strife and division would not even be here.

The truth is others are posting old threads now. There is probably only one positive thread that is trying to encourage believers to believe what Christ has done for us every other day.

In order for people to get along - they have to have respect for one another. We that believe in the grace of Christ have been called every name in the book - from liars, deceivers, satanic, heretics, lovers of sin, and one even changed my name to "greasy-gracist777x70".

This reveals the malice that is in this BDF - if you have a different view - you are a heretic and you will be railed upon and persecuted. It's the nature of the beast....

Honestly, I don't think it's possible for a group of Christians to discuss Scripture or theology without ending up in strife. Actually, I should reword that. It is possible and should be a given that we approach spiritual discussions with a meek and gentle spirit. I have yet to see though a forum or any online community that was not rife with contention and strife. It is pretty sad to think that the odds are much greater that ten Christians, from different denominational backgrounds, placed in one room are far more likely to get into strife more quickly than a group of non Christians. In fairness, this is probably because Christians tend to discuss more serious and philosophical issues.

I was just reading an account of the wars between Pelagius and Augustine/ Jerome. Pelagius was deemed the heretic by the church council but the behavior on both sides and their followers was despicable. One can be right doctrinally and even do good things for the church, but behave terribly.

I don't personally agree with the idea that we must reject and dismiss absolutely everything from those we don't agree with. I am not RCC and yet, I have read some fantastic blogs or articles from certain priests that contained some great insight. I've actually used these articles and other things when discussing my views with other Catholics. I think it is far more effective to agree with a person when you can and show that person that you are making an attempt to have a reasonable discussion. I think a person is far more likely to listen to your views if you acknowledge the times they are right. I read through this devotional in this thread carefully, andi didn't read anything that I disagreed with. I didnt like other OP's in some other threads if there were points in the devotional I disagreed with. If someone we don't respect claims the sky is blue, there is no reason to disagree with that

 

[Grace777x70]

Honestly, I don't think it's possible for a group of Christians to discuss Scripture or theology without ending up in strife. Actually, I should reword that. It is possible and should be a given that we approach spiritual discussions with a meek and gentle spirit. I have yet to see though a forum or any online community that was not rife with contention and strife. It is pretty sad to think that the odds are much greater that ten Christians, from different denominational backgrounds, placed in one room are far more likely to get into strife more quickly than a group of non Christians. In fairness, this is probably because Christians tend to discuss more serious and philosophical issues.

I was just reading an account of the wars between Pelagius and Augustine/ Jerome. Pelagius was deemed the heretic by the church council but the behavior on both sides and their followers was despicable. One can be right doctrinally and even do good things for the church, but behave terribly.

I don't personally agree with the idea that we must reject and dismiss absolutely everything from those we don't agree with. I am not RCC and yet, i have read some fantastic blogs or articles from certain priests that contained some great insight. I've actually used these articles and other things when discussing my views with other Catholics. I think it is far more effective to agree with a person when you can and show that person that you are making an attempt to have a reasonable discussion. I think a person is far more likely to listen to your views if you acknowledge the times they are right. I read through this devotional in this thread carefully, andi didn't read anything that I disagreed with. I didnt like other OP's in some other threads if there were points in the devotional I disagreed with. If someone we don't respect claims the sky is blue, there is no reason to disagree with that

Well said...and I agree. As I have said many times in the past - I don't agree with everything any teacher says. I will chew on the hay and spit out the sticks.

I don't agree with the cessationists viewpoint but I don't make up threads about the "heretic John McArthur" ( or anyone else ) because he doesn't believe in the gifts of here Spirit are for today.

I believe I need what God has anointed him to talk about in regards to Christ. If I shut him out - then I will miss out on that. In truth John McArthur ( and others ) is a believer in Christ and therefore precious to the Lord and is really a part of me as well as we are all in Christ.

I find it frustrating when things are not even properly represented. This occurs a lot it seems and even if you do show what is really being said - they continue to say the opposite of what you are saying.

Example:

This statement is made:

"Isn't it a beautiful blue sky the Lord has given to us today?"

But someone says this in response :

"You are a false teacher and a heretic - the sky is not green - everyone knows it is blue."

How do you deal with a mindset like that when they do not even represent what you actually did say correctly?

It's ok to agree to disagree too but to mis-represent what is being said is deceitful and just causes strife and division as there is no common ground to even agree to disagree.

 

[Gr8grace]

I don't agree with the cessationists viewpoint but I don't make up threads about the "heretic John McArthur" ( or anyone else ) because he doesn't believe in the gifts of here Spirit are for today.

I believe I need what God has anointed him to talk about in regards to Christ. If I shut him out - then I will miss out on that. In truth John McArthur ( and others ) is a believer in Christ and therefore precious to the Lord and is really a part of me as well as we are all in Christ.

Although I believe the signs and wonders gifts have ceased. And we live by Grace principles and faith no matter what circumstance we are in .......good or bad.

You would do well to just cut off any teaching from Johnny Mac.
John is precious to the Lord, but not his teachings.

 

[Joidevivre]

Oh Stephen 63, it is my heart that says to give thanks. And so it is with all who have Christ living in them. I will like any post that encourages the giving of thanks to God.

 

[Grace777x70]

Oh Stephen 63, it is my heart that says to give thanks. And so it is with all who have Christ living in them. I will like any post that encourages the giving of thanks to God.

Amen...well said...never let anyone "lord it over your faith" - no matter who they are. This includes pastors, readers of the greek language or anyone one else in the body of Christ.

We all have the Holy Spirit within us that reveals Christ to us and no one has "special knowledge" where they can lord it over people and be condescending to you because you believe something a little different.

In this we can give thanks for His amazing gift of His Son to us.

 

[Grace777x70]

Although I believe the signs and wonders gifts have ceased. And we live by Grace principles and faith no matter what circumstance we are in .......good or bad.

You would do well to just cut off any teaching from Johnny Mac.
John is precious to the Lord, but not his teachings.

See, behold, ponder this brethren - it is possible to respect each other even though we have different beliefs in some areas - like Gr8ace and I do on another subject.

Do you see us calling each other names and heretics and false teachers because of these differences? No, we camp around the Lord Jesus Christ and His awesome salvation for us.

( I'll cast the deceiving spirit out of him later - when he's not looking for not agreeing with me.......lol..."just kiddin' in case anyone doesn't know that I am just teasing him" )

 

[Gr8grace]

See, behold, ponder this brethren - it is possible to respect each other even though we have different beliefs in some areas - like Gr8ace and I do on another subject.

Do you see us calling each other names and heretics and false teachers because of these differences? No, we camp around the Lord Jesus Christ and His awesome salvation for us.

( I'll cast the deceiving spirit out of him later - when he's not looking for not agreeing with me.......lol..."just kiddin' in case anyone doesn't know that I am just teasing him" )

Hey, you have grace figured out. Anything after that is just discussion and debate between brothers. The foundation is there.

The foundation is NOT there for many here. And this is why the battle will ensue.

 

[Chester]

Hey, you have grace figured out. Anything after that is just discussion and debate between brothers. The foundation is there.

The foundation is NOT there for many here. And this is why the battle will ensue.

I am curious? Do you think people who do not believe in OSAS have the "foundation" ?

 

[gb9]

I am curious? Do you think people who do not believe in OSAS have the "foundation" ?

why do ya'll want to trout this garbage into every thread this nice man makes?? I never in my life thought that I would see the Grace and the Word of God just get trampled on every day like they do here.

some of ya'll need to wake up to the fact that the drunk, the crackhead, the thief, etc...... the only difference between them and you is the Grace of God, and that you receive it. some of ya'll need to come off your religious high horse. you can be first chester.