Who/what are the 144,000 Israelites ?

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According to the Bible, Jesus, Paul and John revealed, those of us who belong to His Church, will be CAUGHT UP [Raptured] to Him in the clouds of the sky, before the man of lawlessness/Antichrist is revealed, as recorded in 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. Who triggers the seven year tribulation/70th Week of Daniel, God decreed Israel to go through in Dan.9:27.

[In connection with the Church = Jn.14:1-4 and 28; 1 Thess.4:14-18 and 2 Thess.2:1-8].

n connection with Israel = Jer.30:7 and Dan.9:27, where the "he" who 'confirms a covenant/treaty/agreement with Israel is the Antichrist, and all three of the "he's" in that verse, triggers the 70th and final 'Week,'/seven year tribulation/Day of the Lord.
J
Jesus said He has two sheep folds, Israel whom He was addressing, and the "other one He must also bring," the Church, according to Jn.10:16. He prophecied that they will become one fold with one Shepherd, fulfilled when Jesus sets up His 1,000 year kingdom on earth, in Rev,20:6.. He also said many who are first will be last [Israel] and many who are last will be first [The Church] in Mt.19:30. This will be fulfilled when Jesus ends the tribulation, in Rev.19:11-21 after the first resurrection of all the tribulation saints, in and then rule with Christ for 1,000 years, in Rev.4 and 6.

He meant His Church will be CAUGHT UP to be with Him before the tribulation, according to 1 Thes.4:16-17 and 2 Thes.2:1-8] and that Israel will go through the tribulation [Dan.9:27]. When Israel finally recognizes Jesus as their Messiah, according to Zech.12:10 , they will then come into the same sheep fold with the Church and the two will become one fold, with Jesus being the one Shepherd, when He establishes His Millennial kingdom here on earth according to Rev.20:6.

When the Church is Caught Up to be with the Lord in heaven, the man of lawlessness/ Antichrist, is revealed and the tribulation begins, according to 2 Thess.2:3-4, 7-8; Dan.9:27 and Rev.6:2].

The overview of the tribulation, begins with the first of the four riders, on the white horse, who is the Antichrist, in the first of seven seals. After the six seals, before the seventh seal that contains the seven trumpet judgements, begins in Rev.8, God will send 144,000 Israelites, consisting of 12,000 from each of their twelve tribes, that He "redeems from the earth" according to Rev.14:3. Sealing them, and they become converted evangelists for Jesus Christ, who will take the place of the departed/raptured Church, to preach the Eternal Gospel in their absence, to all those left on the earth alive at His coming, according to Thess.4:15 and Rev.7:1-8. The result of their ministry is the Great Multitude in verses 9-17. The 144,000 will be sent here by God from heaven [as He also will do with His two witnesses of Rev.11]. Had they been believers here on earth, they would been raptured with the Church, and could not serve the purpose God had for them here on earth during the tribulation.

They were the righteous ones in OT Sheol when Jesus preached the gospel to them, according to 1 Pet.3:18-20. Then when He ascended into heaven, in Acts 1:9, He took all the righteous ones who came from OT Sheol with Him, as seen in Eph.4:7-10, fulfilling the prophecy in Ps.68:18. [During OT times, the spirits of the righteous dead went to Sheol/Hell, as did the wicked, because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sin, according to Heb.10:3-4, Lk.16:19-23 and in Ps.49:14-15, until Jesus shed His blood and died on the cross, amplified by Paul in Rom.3:25-26.

The efforts of their work as evangelists is then revealed in the parenthetic [preview] view of the Great Multitude seen in heaven, recorded in Rev.7:9-17, who represents all of those who will be saved during the tribulation, and who are also the martyrs who participate in the first resurrection of Rev.20:4. They are the tribulation saints and are the ones who will be left behind, when the Church is raptured. The 144,000 Israelite evangelists willbring them to the Lord. The 144,000 do not belong to the Church or they would have been raptured with the Church before the tribulation begins.

When their work is finished, the 144,000 will be translated, and return to heaven, in Rev.14:1-5. When that happens, the earth will once again be without anyone to preach the Eternal Gospel. So God will commission an angel to do so in Rev.14:6-7.

Therefore, the 144,000 are all converted Israelites who take the place of the raptured Church to preach the Gospel to all those who will be left behind when Jesus comes to take His Church with Him to our Father in heaven, as previously address above, documented in Jn.14:2-4 and 28; 1Thess.4:13-17 and 2 Thess.2:1-8.



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According to the Bible, Jesus, Paul and John revealed, those of us who belong to His Church, will be CAUGHT UP [Raptured] to Him in the clouds of the sky, before the man of lawlessness/Antichrist is revealed, as recorded in 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. Who triggers the seven year tribulation/70th Week of Daniel, God decreed Israel to go through in Dan.9:27.

[In connection with the Church = Jn.14:1-4 and 28; 1 Thess.4:14-18 and 2 Thess.2:1-8].

n connection with Israel = Jer.30:7 and Dan.9:27, where the "he" who 'confirms a covenant/treaty/agreement with Israel is the Antichrist, and all three of the "he's" in that verse, triggers the 70th and final 'Week,'/seven year tribulation/Day of the Lord.
J
Jesus said He has two sheep folds, Israel whom He was addressing, and the "other one He must also bring," the Church, according to Jn.10:16. He prophecied that they will become one fold with one Shepherd, fulfilled when Jesus sets up His 1,000 year kingdom on earth, in Rev,20:6.. He also said many who are first will be last [Israel] and many who are last will be first [The Church] in Mt.19:30. This will be fulfilled when Jesus ends the tribulation, in Rev.19:11-21 after the first resurrection of all the tribulation saints, in and then rule with Christ for 1,000 years, in Rev.4 and 6.

He meant His Church will be CAUGHT UP to be with Him before the tribulation, according to 1 Thes.4:16-17 and 2 Thes.2:1-8] and that Israel will go through the tribulation [Dan.9:27]. When Israel finally recognizes Jesus as their Messiah, according to Zech.12:10 , they will then come into the same sheep fold with the Church and the two will become one fold, with Jesus being the one Shepherd, when He establishes His Millennial kingdom here on earth according to Rev.20:6.

When the Church is Caught Up to be with the Lord in heaven, the man of lawlessness/ Antichrist, is revealed and the tribulation begins, according to 2 Thess.2:3-4, 7-8; Dan.9:27 and Rev.6:2].

The overview of the tribulation, begins with the first of the four riders, on the white horse, who is the Antichrist, in the first of seven seals. After the six seals, before the seventh seal that contains the seven trumpet judgements, begins in Rev.8, God will send 144,000 Israelites, consisting of 12,000 from each of their twelve tribes, that He "redeems from the earth" according to Rev.14:3. Sealing them, and they become converted evangelists for Jesus Christ, who will take the place of the departed/raptured Church, to preach the Eternal Gospel in their absence, to all those left on the earth alive at His coming, according to Thess.4:15 and Rev.7:1-8. The result of their ministry is the Great Multitude in verses 9-17. The 144,000 will be sent here by God from heaven [as He also will do with His two witnesses of Rev.11]. Had they been believers here on earth, they would been raptured with the Church, and could not serve the purpose God had for them here on earth during the tribulation.

They were the righteous ones in OT Sheol when Jesus preached the gospel to them, according to 1 Pet.3:18-20. Then when He ascended into heaven, in Acts 1:9, He took all the righteous ones who came from OT Sheol with Him, as seen in Eph.4:7-10, fulfilling the prophecy in Ps.68:18. [During OT times, the spirits of the righteous dead went to Sheol/Hell, as did the wicked, because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sin, according to Heb.10:3-4, Lk.16:19-23 and in Ps.49:14-15, until Jesus shed His blood and died on the cross, amplified by Paul in Rom.3:25-26.

The efforts of their work as evangelists is then revealed in the parenthetic [preview] view of the Great Multitude seen in heaven, recorded in Rev.7:9-17, who represents all of those who will be saved during the tribulation, and who are also the martyrs who participate in the first resurrection of Rev.20:4. They are the tribulation saints and are the ones who will be left behind, when the Church is raptured. The 144,000 Israelite evangelists willbring them to the Lord. The 144,000 do not belong to the Church or they would have been raptured with the Church before the tribulation begins.

When their work is finished, the 144,000 will be translated, and return to heaven, in Rev.14:1-5. When that happens, the earth will once again be without anyone to preach the Eternal Gospel. So God will commission an angel to do so in Rev.14:6-7.

Therefore, the 144,000 are all converted Israelites who take the place of the raptured Church to preach the Gospel to all those who will be left behind when Jesus comes to take His Church with Him to our Father in heaven, as previously address above, documented in Jn.14:2-4 and 28; 1Thess.4:13-17 and 2 Thess.2:1-8.



Quasar02
a wonderful fairy story. Now read the Scriptures.
 

Ahwatukee

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Hello Quasar92,

I agree with pretty much everything that you said above, but I do not agree with the following:

The 144,000 will be sent here by God from heaven [as He also will do with His two witnesses of Rev.11]. Had they been believers here on earth, they would been raptured with the Church, and could not serve the purpose God had for them here on earth during the tribulation.

First, there is nothing in the scripture that supports the 144,000 as being sent from heaven. It is demonstrated that they will be actual men who come to the knowledge that Jesus is their Messiah after the church has been removed. Below is what the scripture says regarding them:

"And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins.

The scripture above clearly shows that the 144,000 will be redeemed from the earth, which means they were purchased by the shed blood of Christ. Also, the fact that the scripture states that they did not defile themselves with women demonstrating that they are all males ergo the male child and that they would be actual men on earth in keeping themselves from sexual immorality with women. According to Rev.12:5, This group is caught up to God's throne when Satan and his angels are cast out, which takes place in the middle of the seven years.

- Don
 
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According to the Bible, Jesus, Paul and John revealed, those of us who belong to His Church, will be CAUGHT UP [Raptured] to Him in the clouds of the sky, before the man of lawlessness/Antichrist is revealed...
Complete and utter nonsense!

Paul teaches the EXACT opposite in 2Thess 2v1-4:

"Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him,
we beg you, brethren, not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God."

The Second Coming of the Lord Jesus and our gathering together to Him happens on the SAME day Paul teaches, and that day is AFTER Antichrist is revealed and sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that he is God!

The Lord Himself will personally deal with false teachers who teach lies about His Second Coming, I suggest you take real heed to the severe warning in Rev 22v18,19 for you are CERTAINLY deceived in regards to the truth on the Second Coming!
 
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According to the Bible, Jesus, Paul and John revealed, those of us who belong to His Church, will be CAUGHT UP [Raptured] to Him in the clouds of the sky, before the man of lawlessness/Antichrist is revealed, as recorded in 2 Thess.2:3 and 7-8. Who triggers the seven year tribulation/70th Week of Daniel, God decreed Israel to go through in Dan.9:27.

[In connection with the Church = Jn.14:1-4 and 28; 1 Thess.4:14-18 and 2 Thess.2:1-8].

n connection with Israel = Jer.30:7 and Dan.9:27, where the "he" who 'confirms a covenant/treaty/agreement with Israel is the Antichrist, and all three of the "he's" in that verse, triggers the 70th and final 'Week,'/seven year tribulation/Day of the Lord.
J
Jesus said He has two sheep folds, Israel whom He was addressing, and the "other one He must also bring," the Church, according to Jn.10:16. He prophecied that they will become one fold with one Shepherd, fulfilled when Jesus sets up His 1,000 year kingdom on earth, in Rev,20:6.. He also said many who are first will be last [Israel] and many who are last will be first [The Church] in Mt.19:30. This will be fulfilled when Jesus ends the tribulation, in Rev.19:11-21 after the first resurrection of all the tribulation saints, in and then rule with Christ for 1,000 years, in Rev.4 and 6.

He meant His Church will be CAUGHT UP to be with Him before the tribulation, according to 1 Thes.4:16-17 and 2 Thes.2:1-8] and that Israel will go through the tribulation [Dan.9:27]. When Israel finally recognizes Jesus as their Messiah, according to Zech.12:10 , they will then come into the same sheep fold with the Church and the two will become one fold, with Jesus being the one Shepherd, when He establishes His Millennial kingdom here on earth according to Rev.20:6.

When the Church is Caught Up to be with the Lord in heaven, the man of lawlessness/ Antichrist, is revealed and the tribulation begins, according to 2 Thess.2:3-4, 7-8; Dan.9:27 and Rev.6:2].

The overview of the tribulation, begins with the first of the four riders, on the white horse, who is the Antichrist, in the first of seven seals. After the six seals, before the seventh seal that contains the seven trumpet judgements, begins in Rev.8, God will send 144,000 Israelites, consisting of 12,000 from each of their twelve tribes, that He "redeems from the earth" according to Rev.14:3. Sealing them, and they become converted evangelists for Jesus Christ, who will take the place of the departed/raptured Church, to preach the Eternal Gospel in their absence, to all those left on the earth alive at His coming, according to Thess.4:15 and Rev.7:1-8. The result of their ministry is the Great Multitude in verses 9-17. The 144,000 will be sent here by God from heaven [as He also will do with His two witnesses of Rev.11]. Had they been believers here on earth, they would been raptured with the Church, and could not serve the purpose God had for them here on earth during the tribulation.

They were the righteous ones in OT Sheol when Jesus preached the gospel to them, according to 1 Pet.3:18-20. Then when He ascended into heaven, in Acts 1:9, He took all the righteous ones who came from OT Sheol with Him, as seen in Eph.4:7-10, fulfilling the prophecy in Ps.68:18. [During OT times, the spirits of the righteous dead went to Sheol/Hell, as did the wicked, because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sin, according to Heb.10:3-4, Lk.16:19-23 and in Ps.49:14-15, until Jesus shed His blood and died on the cross, amplified by Paul in Rom.3:25-26.

The efforts of their work as evangelists is then revealed in the parenthetic [preview] view of the Great Multitude seen in heaven, recorded in Rev.7:9-17, who represents all of those who will be saved during the tribulation, and who are also the martyrs who participate in the first resurrection of Rev.20:4. They are the tribulation saints and are the ones who will be left behind, when the Church is raptured. The 144,000 Israelite evangelists willbring them to the Lord. The 144,000 do not belong to the Church or they would have been raptured with the Church before the tribulation begins.

When their work is finished, the 144,000 will be translated, and return to heaven, in Rev.14:1-5. When that happens, the earth will once again be without anyone to preach the Eternal Gospel. So God will commission an angel to do so in Rev.14:6-7.

Therefore, the 144,000 are all converted Israelites who take the place of the raptured Church to preach the Gospel to all those who will be left behind when Jesus comes to take His Church with Him to our Father in heaven, as previously address above, documented in Jn.14:2-4 and 28; 1Thess.4:13-17 and 2 Thess.2:1-8.



Quasar02
Did you not read verse 3?
My bible states that the man of sin must be revealed revealed FIRST.
 
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Did you not read verse 3?
My bible states that the man of sin must be revealed revealed FIRST.
The man of sin is revealed according to first John 2. Satan the father of lies as the god of this world was already here working in the antichrists as men who sin whom he influenced them to deny Christ came in the flesh..

The antichrist would have men believe he was not revealed. He is a liar from the beginning.

1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist (singular) shall come, even now are there many antichrists; (plural) whereby we know that it is the last time.

We are in the last time, called last days. The tribulation had begun when Christ said; it is finished.
 

Adstar

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The 144,000 are descendants of Abraham 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel.. They will be innocents the Book of revelation says they will have never known a woman.. This is the remnant spoken of in prophecy..

Revelation 14

1 Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father's name written on their foreheads.

Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the LORD Shall be saved. For in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be deliverance, As the LORD has said, Among the remnant whom the LORD calls.

Isaiah 37:31,32
And the remnant who have escaped of the house of Judah Shall again take root downward, And bear fruit upward. For out of Jerusalem shall go a remnant, And those who escape from Mount Zion. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this.
 
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My favorite subject is the 144,000 and The Two Witnesses.The Two Witnesses is the OT/NT and Chapter 11 in Revelation pretty much talks about the first fruits giving testimony of the Two Witnesses.
 

Bladerunner

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a wonderful fairy story. Now read the Scriptures.
I think you had better read the scriptures my friend.... That is the literal view of it not the fairy tale story most others use.
 
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Hello Quasar92,

I agree with pretty much everything that you said above, but I do not agree with the following:




First, there is nothing in the scripture that supports the 144,000 as being sent from heaven. It is demonstrated that they will be actual men who come to the knowledge that Jesus is their Messiah after the church has been removed. Below is what the scripture says regarding them:

"And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins.

The scripture above clearly shows that the 144,000 will be redeemed from the earth, which means they were purchased by the shed blood of Christ. Also, the fact that the scripture states that they did not defile themselves with women demonstrating that they are all males ergo the male child and that they would be actual men on earth in keeping themselves from sexual immorality with women. According to Rev.12:5, This group is caught up to God's throne when Satan and his angels are cast out, which takes place in the middle of the seven years.

- Don

Tell me, who is going to be around on earth to bring anyone to the Lord, during the GT, Awatukee? Scripture in Rev.14 referring to the 144,000 being redeemed from the earth is clear reference to OT Sheol, where Jesus went to preach the gospel to those who have been there since the dys of Noah, That is where they received the Gospel, as recorded in 1 Pet.3:18-20. From there, Jesus took the righteus and OT saints with Him when He ascended into heaven, recorded in Acts 1:9 and Eph.4:7-10. confirming Ps.68:18.

There is no other way the 144,000 could have gotten on earth, unless God returned then to earth fro heaven, as He will also do with His two witnesses in Rev.11:3.


Quasar92
 
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Did you not read verse 3?
My bible states that the man of sin must be revealed revealed FIRST.

Your unqualified opinion is refuted by the Scriptures posted in the OP. Let me see the Scriptural support for your opinions.


Quasar92
 
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Complete and utter nonsense!

Paul teaches the EXACT opposite in 2Thess 2v1-4:

"Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him,
we beg you, brethren, not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God."

The Second Coming of the Lord Jesus and our gathering together to Him happens on the SAME day Paul teaches, and that day is AFTER Antichrist is revealed and sits in the Temple in Jerusalem claiming that he is God!

The Lord Himself will personally deal with false teachers who teach lies about His Second Coming, I suggest you take real heed to the severe warning in Rev 22v18,19 for you are CERTAINLY deceived in regards to the truth on the Second Coming!

You rally stepped in it this time! Show me the Scriptures you've attempted to compose into what you want them to say. Show me the Scriptures pertaining to Jesus second coming. It is going to be with His Church from heaven, you know!


Quasar92
 
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The 144,000 are exactly as Revelation says they are.
12,000 of each tribe of Israel of whom God will use mightily in the Great Tribulation.
 

Ahwatukee

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Tell me, who is going to be around on earth to bring anyone to the Lord, during the GT, Awatukee?
Well.... I believe that there will be plenty of those who will not be ready when the Lord comes to gather his church, who will have read the word of God and will know his word and will realize what has happened after those who were ready have been removed. At that time I believe that they will get their selves together and realize what time period they are in and what they are going to have to go through. I believe that this group will begin to alert people in the beginning of that seven years in regards to what is going, who the ruler is that makes the seven year covenant and the seals, trumpets and bowls that, for them, will be about to take place. But, I also believe that the 144,000 will be spreading the gospel as well, but as mortal men out of Israel and not as those sent from heaven

Scripture in Rev.14 referring to the 144,000 being redeemed from the earth is clear reference to OT Sheol, where Jesus went to preach the gospel to those who have been there since the days of Noah, That is where they received the Gospel, as recorded in 1 Pet.3:18-20.

The redeemed would be speaking about living people, redeemed from the earth is what the scripture says. Also, there is no scripture that specifies that it was the 144,000 that Jesus was preaching to in Sheol. That claim would by conjecture only.

Scripture states that the woman/Israel, will give birth to the male child, which means that 144,000, twelve thousand from each of the tribes mentioned, will come out from Israel as the first fruits to God, acknowledging Jesus as their Messiah. In the middle of the seven years, they will be caught up to God's throne, just like the living church at the time of the resurrection.

There is no other way the 144,000 could have gotten on earth, unless God returned then to earth fro heaven, as He will also do with His two witnesses in Rev.11:3.
The above would only be true if one believes that the 144,000 come from heaven. I believe that this 144,000 will be a select group of mortal men, reserved by God as the first fruits out of Israel. These will be the only ones who will be exempt from the 5th trumpet, which are those demonic beings who will be commanded to torment the people of the earth with the stings of their tails.

To be honest, I have never read any scripture that would infer that the 144,000 are sent from heaven. And to relate them as being those whom Jesus preached to in Sheol would only be conjecture. There is much controversy regarding who those prisoners were that Jesus went to preach to. I personally would lean more to the idea that Jesus preached (made a proclamation) to those angels who are mentioned in Jude 1:6 and 2 Pet.2:2-4, as those who took wives from the progeny of men (Gen.6:1) for the purpose of contaminating His blood line and thereby attempting to keep scripture from being fulfilled. Jesus went there to proclaim his victory to those angels who were imprisoned.
 

Ahwatukee

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The 144,000 are exactly as Revelation says they are.
12,000 of each tribe of Israel of whom God will use mightily in the Great Tribulation.
Amen! So true. I get tired of people proclaiming that the number of 144,000 is symbolic, when there is no reason to. Someone came up with this distortion and people adopted that believe and Viola! A new teaching. It makes no sense specifically when John says, "I heard the number of those who were sealed, twelve thousand from each of the twelve tribes of Israel." Then to cement the number as being 144,000, he breaks down the 144,000 into twelve thousand from each tribe, listing them. Then on top of that, in Rev.14, the scripture is consistent making reference to the 144,000 once again. How about, their number is exactly what scripture states, 144,000. Geez ......

I shouldn't be so surprised, they do the same thing with the 1000 years in which Satan is bound by claiming that it is symbolic representing an unknown amount of time. I'm thinkin', in order for the Holy Spirit to get His point across, every time he said something that was meant to be interpreted literally, He would have had to add the words "No really! What you're reading is what I meant" in order to get them to understand. But of course even if God did that, I believe that would still find a way to distort the scripture.
 

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Revelation 7King James Version (KJV)7 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
The winds are the judgment side of the gospel, and the earth, sea, and any tree is parable language for people.
And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
The angel (messenger) ascending from the east who has the seal of God is Christ, and he gives instruction (perhaps through the gospel itself) to not allow judgment (the unsaved condition) to come upon people until those who are saved are protected from judgment (sealed by the Holy Spirit unto salvation). They are not to be hurt in the sense that they cannot be cut off from salvation.
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.


All who are saved are called Israel whether they be cultural historic Old Testament Jews or Gentiles (
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:)and the Bible is using parable language to describe all true believers as being from tribes of Israel. Because it is descriptive language, the tribe of Dan is not even mentioned. Similarly, the use of the number 144,000 is parable language (figurative) and is not saying that just that actual number is being saved. Rather, the number twelve emphasizes those who are Christ's disciples, who have also ruled and reigned with Christ spiritually throughout the church age. Just as the number 144,000 is a figurative number, in like manner, the two witnesses in Rev 11 is not an actual number of two individual persons, but is a picture of true believers generally.

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
These are the true believers who come to Christ during the time of great tribulation after the church age. It is a time called a 'little season" in Revelation 6:11. There is a possibility that this might be talking about the true believers of all time generally instead, and would, in that case, be the same group as the figurative 144,000.
 
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