what has been fulfilled?

[gotime]

3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. - Rev 20
I suspect that even the release has been initiated.

I don't think this has been fulfilled yet, Right or wrong here are my reasons:

The text shows that this releasing happens after the thousand years. But notice what happens before the thousand years:


Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The start of the thousand years has the resurrection of the saved. This happens when Christ returns. as this has not taken place yet we then know that the thousand years has not commenced and thus there is no way that anything that happens after the thousand years has happened yet.

 

[wanderer6059]

I'm not about to sit here and post the whole bible when I already said it's all been fulfilled.
here's something you might want to scan. then we can discuss it.


The Seventy Weeks
and the Great Tribulation

A Study of the Last Two Visions of Daniel, and of the Olivet Discourse of the Lord Jesus Christ

Philip Mauro
(1921)

Philip Mauro : The Seventy Weeks and the Great Tribulation (1921) Free Online Books @ PreteristArchive.com, The Internet's Only Balanced Look at Preterism and Preterist Eschatology

ok the just Rev? the plagues, the trumpets, angels, beak it down.

 

[zone]

I don't think this has been fulfilled yet, Right or wrong here are my reasons:

The text shows that this releasing happens after the thousand years. But notice what happens before the thousand years:


Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The start of the thousand years has the resurrection of the saved. This happens when Christ returns. as this has not taken place yet we then know that the thousand years has not commenced and thus there is no way that anything that happens after the thousand years has happened yet.

no, if you read it really carefully, knowing that the greek is making a picture - a giant summary from a bird's eye view - the first resurrection is those living and reigning with Christ for the thousand years - both the living and the dead. this is the church age (post Cross). the thousand years is a symbolic number which means completion.

 

[wanderer6059]

no, if you read it really carefully, knowing that the greek is making a picture - a giant summary from a bird's eye view - the first resurrection is those living and reigning with Christ for the thousand years - both the living and the dead. this is the church age (post Cross). the thousand years is a symbolic number which means completion.

proof!!! pull out that greek! show it with the word.

 

[zone]

ok the just Rev? the plagues, the trumpets, angels, beak it down.

post the passage you want.

 

[wanderer6059]

no, if you read it really carefully, knowing that the greek is making a picture - a giant summary from a bird's eye view - the first resurrection is those living and reigning with Christ for the thousand years - both the living and the dead. this is the church age (post Cross). the thousand years is a symbolic number which means completion.

where in scripture, context.

where in scripture, context.

 

[wanderer6059]

post the passage you want.

all of them lol prove a few to start, you can choose.

 

[zone]

proof!!! pull out that greek! show it with the word.

Cross/Resurrection/Ascension/Pentecost--> Church/individual deaths/heaven--> Judgment/eternity

read the philp maruo stuff first or post passages.

 

[zone]

all of them lol prove a few to start, you can choose.

Daniel 11
36. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

"We come now to a remarkable personality, one who fills a large and prominent place in the prophecy, and who is introduced in the words of verse 36.

"HEROD THE KING" "

Daniel 11 - Prophecy Fulfilled

 

[wanderer6059]

Cross/Resurrection/Ascension/Pentecost--> Church/individual deaths/heaven--> Judgment/eternity

read the philp maruo stuff first or post passages.

nope im not reading nothing until you can justify my reading it with scriptural references in context. till then what you say is just some heresy to me... ive been asking the same thing well before you post that two, i think you might just like to tickle some ears but prove me wrong with the word yourself not with some link...

 

[wanderer6059]

Daniel 11
36. And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

"We come now to a remarkable personality, one who fills a large and prominent place in the prophecy, and who is introduced in the words of verse 36.

"HEROD THE KING" "

Daniel 11 - Prophecy Fulfilled

yeah got that one but were talking about REV sister not OT that was fulfilled in Christ.

 

[Bladerunner]

3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. - Rev 20

I suspect that even the release has been initiated.

I really don't know how to respond to you and the errant philosophy you are posting.

I guess I'll start by asking you a question?

Are you stating in your post that the 1000 years with Jesus Christ is already happening???????

 

[GodssSon]

3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. - Rev 20

I suspect that even the release has been initiated.

Not fulfilled. Please don't just pull out a scripture and say it's fulfilled without giving some explanation on why you think it's been fulfilled.

 

[notuptome]

Lucifer is released from the pit after the thousand years of the Millennial reign of Christ. Now who here believes that we are in the Millennial kingdom? Please inform me if Jesus is seated on the throne of David in Jerusalem. If Jesus is there then I am out of the loop. Missed all that lambs lying down with the lions stuff.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[GodssSon]

Lucifer is released from the pit after the thousand years of the Millennial reign of Christ. Now who here believes that we are in the Millennial kingdom? Please inform me if Jesus is seated on the throne of David in Jerusalem. If Jesus is there then I am out of the loop. Missed all that lambs lying down with the lions stuff.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Agreed brother!

 

[Elizabeth619]

Lucifer is released from the pit after the thousand years of the Millennial reign of Christ. Now who here believes that we are in the Millennial kingdom? Please inform me if Jesus is seated on the throne of David in Jerusalem. If Jesus is there then I am out of the loop. Missed all that lambs lying down with the lions stuff.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

It's all about symbolism. No one can say everything in revelation is literal.

 

[GodssSon]

It's all about symbolism. No one can say everything in revelation is literal.

Yup, not everything

 

[wanderer6059]

It's all about symbolism. No one can say everything in revelation is literal.

.... P R O O F

 

[Bladerunner]

Lucifer is released from the pit after the thousand years of the Millennial reign of Christ. Now who here believes that we are in the Millennial kingdom? Please inform me if Jesus is seated on the throne of David in Jerusalem. If Jesus is there then I am out of the loop. Missed all that lambs lying down with the lions stuff.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

you would be surprised how many people believe we are living at the end of the 1000 years mentioned in Revelations

May she will answer my question when she comes back on.

Do you 'ZONE' believe that we are living during the 1000 years as you post implies???

 

[notuptome]

It's all about symbolism. No one can say everything in revelation is literal.

Why would that not be literal? You ought to understand that Israel looks for a literal kingdom of God on the earth. No reason to expect that God will not fulfill His promise to Israel to have a kingdom on earth with Messiah as King.

Don't over symbolize Revelation. That is the fruit of the unbelieving heart. God will perform all that He has promised.

For the cause of Christ
Roger