what has been fulfilled?

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3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. - Rev 20

I suspect that even the release has been initiated.
 

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all of it, you can just come on and say its all been fulfilled without proving all of it. especially cause prophecy is always multi layered and has meaning in past, present, and future tense. so you could say nero was the AC of the day, then the one today, and the one to come.
 
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3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. - Rev 20

I suspect that even the release has been initiated.
I think there is some symbolism here. In my case, I thought I had the devil under control for many years. However, it didn’t work out that way. Back in 2008 I began struggling, and have struggled a good deal since.
 

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all of it, you can just come on and say its all been fulfilled without proving all of it. especially cause prophecy is always multi layered and has meaning in past, present, and future tense.
who told you that?

so you could say nero was the AC of the day, then the one today, and the one to come.
you mean the man of sin? there is no capital A - Antichrist in the bible. there only had to be one.
many antichrists already in john's day and he said what they were.

POST A PASSAGE - any passage, and we can look at history to see if it is fulfilled. it's not that hard.
 

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I think there is some symbolism here. In my case, I thought I had the devil under control for many years. However, it didn’t work out that way. Back in 2008 I began struggling, and have struggled a good deal since.
I see what you're saying. but though it's symbolic literary devices, it's for sure the devil restrained by something (the gospel? the word of the Lord? a real angel with a chain?)
 
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I see what you're saying. but though it's symbolic literary devices, it's for sure the devil restrained by something (the gospel? the word of the Lord? a real angel with a chain?)
Well, according to the scripture, he's only being released for a little while. That is good to hear.
 

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who told you that?



you mean the man of sin? there is no capital A - Antichrist in the bible. there only had to be one.
many antichrists already in john's day and he said what they were.

POST A PASSAGE - any passage, and we can look at history to see if it is fulfilled. it's not that hard.
just used AC to let you know what i ment caps didn't mean a thing.

i was taught it in seminary, revelation and other prophecy works repeating fashion.

but really im just curious to see what you think is the fulfillment of the scriptures.
 
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3and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while. - Rev 20

I suspect that even the release has been initiated.
how long was scripture out of mankinds hand. times times a half. around 15oo ad. etc lol
 
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2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

As evidenced by this thread.

For the cause of Christ
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the gist works well . in interpretation. etc
 
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2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

As evidenced by this thread.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
19 Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.(me)Luke 10
 

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19 Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.(me)Luke 10
That was fleeting.

Mr 9:29 And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

zone

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just used AC to let you know what i ment caps didn't mean a thing.

i was taught it in seminary, revelation and other prophecy works repeating fashion.

but really im just curious to see what you think is the fulfillment of the scriptures.
once more - post a passage you think is or isn't fulfilled and let's look into it.

for example:

Acts 3:18
But in this way God has fulfilled what He foretold through all the prophets, saying that His Christ would suffer.

- we can probably agree that after the crucifixion and pentecost the apostles were able to preach that God has fulfilled what He foretold through all the prophets, saying that His Christ would suffer.

so His suffering is fulfilled.....right?
like that.
 

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right, but my question is what do you believe on all of it? me i think it all has been fulfilled before and will be again for a final time.
 

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right, but my question is what do you believe on all of it? me i think it all has been fulfilled before and will be again for a final time.
I already said, I believe it has all been fulfilled except the judgment and eternity
 

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I already said, I believe it has all been fulfilled except the judgment and eternity
yeah but outline it for us, lol if you cant state where it has been fulfilled and just say "it has" you sound flaky, back up what you say with the word, and context of the word and how it was fulfilled.
 

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right, but my question is what do you believe on all of it? me i think it all has been fulfilled before and will be again for a final time.
Good day wanderer6059,

To answer your question, nothing from Revelation chapter 4 onward has taken place. In Rev.1:19, John is told to write, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.

What you have seen: Everything written from Rev.1:1 to Rev.1:19

What is now: The "what is now" is represented by the letters to the churches, which also represents the entire church period, which is still in progress.

What will take place later: Everything that will happen after the "what is now" i.e. after the church period, which is the wrath of God via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments, leading up to the return of Christ to end the age.

Hope this is helps
 

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yeah but outline it for us, lol if you cant state where it has been fulfilled and just say "it has" you sound flaky, back up what you say with the word, and context of the word and how it was fulfilled.
I'm not about to sit here and post the whole bible when I already said it's all been fulfilled.
here's something you might want to scan. then we can discuss it.


The Seventy Weeks
and the Great Tribulation

A Study of the Last Two Visions of Daniel, and of the Olivet Discourse of the Lord Jesus Christ

Philip Mauro
(1921)

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