What does it mean that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?

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InSpiritInTruth

InSpiritInTruth

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Answer this question ISIT
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No thanks, not going to play your games. If you really want to know what I believe then read the words of God contained in the Holy Bible. :)
 
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FreeNChrist

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InSpiritInTruth said:
No thanks, not going to play your games. If you really want to know what I believe then read the words of God contained in the Holy Bible. :)
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We have read the written words of God in the Holy Bible, that's how we know what you believe is nonsense.
 
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FreeNChrist

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InSpiritInTruth said:
We speak of what we see and hear, but the carnally minded man cannot receive our witness
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Exactly. But don't be so hard on yourself. Just drop the pretense and receive the truth you have been shown by others here.
 
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bluto

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InSpiritInTruth said:
Where in the world do you guys get these silly ideas from? There is only One God the Father and His Word. God the Father made His Word both Lord and Christ.

Acts 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.


1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
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So isit, what does that mean at Acts 2:36 that Jesus Christ was "made" both Lord and Christ? If you would have read the context how was King David abel to behold the Lord in his presence? (Acts 2:25). The point of the context (the verses from vs 25-36 has to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ. If you don't believe me read it for yourself.

When you get to Acts 2:36 (which you quoted) it means that the resurrection revealed/established/declared that Jesus Christ was the Lord or He was who He claimed to be. This is also brought out at Romans 1:3,4 ,"concerning His Son, who was born of a descendant of David ACCORDING to the flesh, vs4, who was "DECLARED" the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord."

So isit, your understanding of Acts 2:36 is in error for the reasons I just explained "BUT WAIT" there is another reason and it can be found at Luke 2:11? "for today in the city of David THERE HAS BEEN BORN FOR YOU A SAVIOR, WHO IS CHRIST THE LORD." So you see, Jesus Christ was already Christ the Lord and Savior when He was born. At Acts 2:36 and Romans 1:4 the resurrection proves it. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
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InSpiritInTruth

InSpiritInTruth

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So you see, Jesus Christ was already Christ the Lord and Savior when He was born.
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Yes, I already covered that earlier, but clearly you have selective hearing like the others. :)
 
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bluto

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InSpiritInTruth said:
Yes, I already covered that earlier, but clearly you have selective hearing like the others. :)
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Since you say you covered isit, please give me the post number. Secondly, even if you did cover like you say tell me what I posted that was in error? Please be specific? In other words, on what basis am I wrong with the verses I gave? In fact, now that I think of it, please tell me what the word "made" means in the Greek at Acts 2:36? :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
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seed_time_harvest

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InSpiritInTruth said:
All one needs do is to look to and believe in the words of God---->>>>
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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Yes,faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD.
 
Grace777x70

Grace777x70

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Originally Posted by Grace777x70



Here is the question:

If she would have died any time after she had an episode of "outbursts of anger" -

- would she go to hell as some people's theology says because she willfully participated in these works of the flesh?

Answer this question ISIT because I want to see what your religion believes concerning the works of the flesh and going to heaven.




InSpiritInTruth said:
No thanks, not going to play your games. If you really want to know what I believe then read the words of God contained in the Holy Bible. :)
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Why not? It is a fair question that answers your accusations about walking in the flesh and going to heaven to be with the Lord.

We all know the answer and it exposes this teaching that works of the flesh will keep people from heaven because we were bought for with the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ and we are safe in Him.

We maintain that we need to preach and teach the gospel of the grace of God for in it is the power of God for salvation for everyone that believes.

This will enable us to walk by the spirit so that we don't fulfill the lusts of the flesh to do "it's" desires and inherit some of the things available to us in the kingdom of God in this life.
 
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ZacharyB

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Jesus is the Son of God simply means that His Father was the Holy Spirit (who is God).
See Matthew 1 and Luke 1.
 
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bluto

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ZacharyB said:
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Jesus is the Son of God simply means that His Father was the Holy Spirit (who is God).
See Matthew 1 and Luke 1.
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No zachary, Mary was conceived by the agnecy of the Holy Spirit, it was a miracle. Luke 1:35, "And the angel answered and said to her, The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God." Besides, the Holy Spirit according to Jesus is another comforter at John 14:16. Plus the fact that Jesus sent the Holy Spirit at John 15:26 so if we follow your line of reasoning since when is Jesus sending His Father who you claim is the Holy Spirit?

Read the verse for yourself, "When the Helper/Holy Spirit comes, whom I will send to you FROM THE FATHER, that is the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, He will bear witness of Me." John 15:26. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
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ZacharyB

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bluto said:
since when is Jesus sending His Father who you claim is the Holy Spirit?
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Perhaps you haven't yet heard ... the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
are different Persons or Manifestations of the Triune Godhead.
It is God's will that He be represented in this manner to us.
So says the Holy Scriptures!
 
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bluto

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ZacharyB said:
Perhaps you haven't yet heard ... the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
are different Persons or Manifestations of the Triune Godhead.
It is God's will that He be represented in this manner to us.
So says the Holy Scriptures!
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The following are your words, not mine. "Jesus is the Son of God simply means that His Father was the Holy Spirit (who is God).
See Matthew 1 and Luke 1.

The Holy Spirit is "NOT" the father of Jesus Christ as I already Biblically explained. This is one of the reasons that the three persons of the Trinity are "distinct" from each other because that is how the Bible identifies them. The Father is not the Holy Spirit and the Father is not Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is not God the Father and He is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the Father nor is He Jesus Christ.

Show me one place in the Bible where Jesus says the Holy Spirit is His father? You need to be more careful on how you use words to explain things. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
Denadii

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Has anyone noticed how Jesus in the begotten of the Father? Mary said yes..The Holy Spirit came over her, she conceived. Jesus is begotten.
 
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bluto

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Denadii said:
Has anyone noticed how Jesus in the begotten of the Father? Mary said yes..The Holy Spirit came over her, she conceived. Jesus is begotten.
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Well thank you denadii for resurrecting these threads of mine. I love it! Now, can you please tell me what it means that Jesus Christ is begotten of the Father? :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
 
Denadii

Denadii

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bluto said:
Well thank you denadii for resurrecting these threads of mine. I love it! Now, can you please tell me what it means that Jesus Christ is begotten of the Father? :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
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I just did Bluto. Right in the post you answered #135
 
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