Jesus and Grace

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Ask Jesus about Grace---don't get hung up---Grace and Truth came by Christ (John 1:17). It's simple with Jesus---if you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15). If your in love with someone you don't find ways not to do things for them. Are we hot or cold? Revelation 3:15
 
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Ask Jesus about Grace---don't get hung up---Grace and Truth came by Christ (John 1:17). It's simple with Jesus---if you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15). If your in love with someone you don't find ways not to do things for them. Are we hot or cold? Revelation 3:15
IF a person loves JESUS, can they keep HIS commandments or would they have to be born of the Spirit of GOD first.

So then are you talking about the ten commandments or are you talking about the two commandments?
 

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Ask Jesus about Grace---don't get hung up---Grace and Truth came by Christ (John 1:17). It's simple with Jesus---if you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15). If your in love with someone you don't find ways not to do things for them. Are we hot or cold? Revelation 3:15
My friend can elaborate? You didn't express yourself very well in this post
 

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Jesus is the author of Grace...
 
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"The Apostle Paul never disassociates God's grace from God's crucified Son. Always the two are found together, organically one and inseparable."

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A.W. Tozer
 

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Just saying, there are some teachers out there only teaching Grace from Paul's epistles... We must remember we interpret Paul's writings through Christ---not the other way around...
 
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Just saying, there are some teachers out there only teaching Grace from Paul's epistles... We must remember we interpret Paul's writings through Christ---not the other way around...
"The Resurrection, and its consequences were the "gospel" or good news which the Christian brought: what we call the 'gospels,' the narratives of our Lord's life and death, were composed later for the benefit of those who had already accepted the gospel. They were in no sense the basis of Christianity: they were written for those already converted. The miracle of the Resurrection, and the theology of that miracle, comes first: the biography comes later as a comment on it. Nothing could be more unhistorical than to pick out selected sayings of Christ from the gospels and to regard those as the datum and the rest of the New Testament as a construction upon it."


-C. S. Lewis
 
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"The Apostle Paul never disassociates God's grace from God's crucified Son. Always the two are found together, organically one and inseparable."

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A.W. Tozer
Amen...it is like trying to separate the wet from the water.

Be strong in the grace that is in Christ.

But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Fix your hope completely on the grace that is being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
 
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Just saying, there are some teachers out there only teaching Grace from Paul's epistles... We must remember we interpret Paul's writings through Christ---not the other way around...
The proclamation of Christ produces the profession of Christ, but the explanation of Christ is what produces the experience of Christ.

Believers can never fully enjoy the triumph of the gospel and express Christ in this world victoriously until there has been an explanation and exposition of the vivid details of the redemptive work of Christ that has gained a foothold in our renewed minds.

The 4 gospels were eyewitness accounts of the historical events in the life and ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ. Christianity is based on the veracity of these events as having occurred in real time, in all historicity and specificity.

Nevertheless it is the unveiling of the spiritual realities of these events that relates to the believer in Christ. This is found in the revelation that the Lord Jesus Christ gave to the apostle Paul.

The 4 gospels are the proclamation of the gospel. They disclose to us what men saw. Acts of the apostles is the demonstration of the gospel, but it is Paul's letters which give us an explanation of the gospel. It is the Pauline Epistles that are the constitution of this church age.

Paul's epistles explain what happened from the cross, death, burial, quickening and resurrection to the being seated at the right hand of the Father. Without these epistles we would have no idea what Jesus our Lord actually accomplished for us.

Paul was taught by Jesus Christ Himself to explain His gospel = to reveal the mystery that was hidden in God until it was revealed by Christ to Paul. The mystery being Christ Himself and the riches of that glory is that Christ is in us and we are in Him!
 

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Ask Jesus about Grace---don't get hung up---Grace and Truth came by Christ (John 1:17). It's simple with Jesus---if you love me keep my commandments (John 14:15). If your in love with someone you don't find ways not to do things for them. Are we hot or cold? Revelation 3:15
******Jesus is the author of Grace...
 

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IF a person loves JESUS, can they keep HIS commandments or would they have to be born of the Spirit of GOD first.

So then are you talking about the ten commandments or are you talking about the two commandments?
You don't think they require the same response ? Are they not about 'loving God and neighbour ?