Jesus Teaches, Turn The Other Cheek
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If one believes that everything Jesus tells us to do is a Commandment, then, yes it is a Commandment. It is in keeping with the New Covenant......Grace........
I do not believe He was rewriting the Laws given to Moses when He taught us to turn the other cheek or love our enemies though. In my opinion, there is a difference between the Commandments Jesus gave the Church and the Laws handed down through Moses to the Jews.
I do not believe He was rewriting the Laws given to Moses when He taught us to turn the other cheek or love our enemies though. In my opinion, there is a difference between the Commandments Jesus gave the Church and the Laws handed down through Moses to the Jews.
What I believe is that the Jews were stubborn and did not comprehend the full extend of the law. They were like these group of people that went to the extreme to prosecute you for not living their laws (Talmud) and the law of Moses (Torah). To them the Torah is secondary to the Talmud (even today).
Yeshua showed them how to live Torah in His grace as it should have been like that since day 1. Without grace God would have destroyed the earth a long time ago but we are in grace, always have been.
Yeshua showed them how to live Torah in His grace as it should have been like that since day 1. Without grace God would have destroyed the earth a long time ago but we are in grace, always have been.
Correct, the Hebrews did not comprehend the law(s) while Gentiles never received the laws.
This is how it came about to teach all of repentence and of how the law functions lawfully.
How could the Gentiles repent if they did not have the law explained to them in order to repent from having broken the law?
The Gentiles, who were brought to be together with the original Floc,, shall we say through the Sheep GATE, FIRST HAD TO ELARN THE LAW. The Lord, Jesus teaches both Hebrews and Gentiles how the law should be approached and dealt with.
Yes, the curse of the law, death, was destroyed on the cross, but the law, newly understood by hIS TEACHING, IS NOT ABOLISHED, BUT IT is clarified.
This is why it is written not one jot or tiddle whill be obsolete or destroyed while there is yet sun and moon.
Let us be reasonable, we know, because of our Teacher's personal teaching, what laws are forever valid.
All of the law hangs on the two great laws of love. Now if all of the law is hanging on love, all of the law is to be obeyed. Of course this excludes the laws completed by our Savior, food, levitical, geographical dealing with living in Israel of this age,, punishment, etc........but the laws of moral behavior in love still are to be adhered to. Meanwhile we are saved by grace and we will not be perfect until HIs great and glorious Day when He, not we, completes the work He began in each of us.
This is how it came about to teach all of repentence and of how the law functions lawfully.
How could the Gentiles repent if they did not have the law explained to them in order to repent from having broken the law?
The Gentiles, who were brought to be together with the original Floc,, shall we say through the Sheep GATE, FIRST HAD TO ELARN THE LAW. The Lord, Jesus teaches both Hebrews and Gentiles how the law should be approached and dealt with.
Yes, the curse of the law, death, was destroyed on the cross, but the law, newly understood by hIS TEACHING, IS NOT ABOLISHED, BUT IT is clarified.
This is why it is written not one jot or tiddle whill be obsolete or destroyed while there is yet sun and moon.
Let us be reasonable, we know, because of our Teacher's personal teaching, what laws are forever valid.
All of the law hangs on the two great laws of love. Now if all of the law is hanging on love, all of the law is to be obeyed. Of course this excludes the laws completed by our Savior, food, levitical, geographical dealing with living in Israel of this age,, punishment, etc........but the laws of moral behavior in love still are to be adhered to. Meanwhile we are saved by grace and we will not be perfect until HIs great and glorious Day when He, not we, completes the work He began in each of us.
I guess as you say "one may believe where ever his inclination leads him" . . . but it is interesting how your view is "fact"! 
To me it is enough that Jesus said it - I don't care how anyone tries to categorize it - as law, or Kingdom of Heaven doctrine, or grace, or new covenant, or commandment - and because Jesus said it - I will endeavor to live it out in the most practical and real way that I can in my culture today!
I will endeavor to return good when someone does evil to me. I will extend love and the gospel to my enemies, not bullets. Etc.
To me it is enough that Jesus said it - I don't care how anyone tries to categorize it - as law, or Kingdom of Heaven doctrine, or grace, or new covenant, or commandment - and because Jesus said it - I will endeavor to live it out in the most practical and real way that I can in my culture today!
I will endeavor to return good when someone does evil to me. I will extend love and the gospel to my enemies, not bullets. Etc.
My factual view is simple, it is easiest to learn about the Gospel and what it has accomplished for all by learning from Jesus Christ, as He has invited all to learn from Him directly, in the Scriptures. I have taken Him up on this invitation. Now I did state carefully that it is not "what I am saying" rather it is what Jesus has taugth. God back and read for yourself..
It it is a sin to ask all to learn from Jesus than I remain in my sin, but if it is not, why not learn directly fromHim. There is no need to exclude Paul or any other writing, but since we have been invited by our Savior to learn from Him, why not accept that invitation?
It it is a sin to ask all to learn from Jesus than I remain in my sin, but if it is not, why not learn directly fromHim. There is no need to exclude Paul or any other writing, but since we have been invited by our Savior to learn from Him, why not accept that invitation?
I guess as you say "one may believe where ever his inclination leads him" . . . but it is interesting how your view is "fact"!
To me it is enough that Jesus said it - I don't care how anyone tries to categorize it - as law, or Kingdom of Heaven doctrine, or grace, or new covenant, or commandment - and because Jesus said it - I will endeavor to live it out in the most practical and real way that I can in my culture today!
I will endeavor to return good when someone does evil to me. I will extend love and the gospel to my enemies, not bullets. Etc.
To me it is enough that Jesus said it - I don't care how anyone tries to categorize it - as law, or Kingdom of Heaven doctrine, or grace, or new covenant, or commandment - and because Jesus said it - I will endeavor to live it out in the most practical and real way that I can in my culture today!
I will endeavor to return good when someone does evil to me. I will extend love and the gospel to my enemies, not bullets. Etc.
Jesus is not King of Kings yet. When He does rule this earth as King of Kings, one should turn the other cheek. Let the King handle all matters. Never take matters in your own hand under His rule.
But, when the earthly kingdom was postponed because of Israel's rejection, the Lord knew the world would be a tough and evil place to live for the church, so Paul was moved to write, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."Do what you can to live at peace with all men, but sometimes that's not possible and self defense is needed to restore peace.
But, when the earthly kingdom was postponed because of Israel's rejection, the Lord knew the world would be a tough and evil place to live for the church, so Paul was moved to write, "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."Do what you can to live at peace with all men, but sometimes that's not possible and self defense is needed to restore peace.
Jesus IS king of kings NOW. He was crowned so as Messiah and LORD (Acts 2.30, 36) after His resurrection.
He is never going to reign on earth, He reigns over the earth now in the heavens (Revelation 20.4-5) and will rule over the new spiritual earth along with the Father in Rev 21
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the earthly kingdom was not postponed. You don't really think that God would be put off by a little thing like that, do you? A large minority accepted Him, and a vast quantity of Gentiles. His kingdom grows ever bigger and bigger. He has rejected the unbelievers of Israel, but He has promised to receive them back into the church if they repent.
Turning the other cheek was in response to an insult and applies as much today. It has NOTHING to do with self defence.
He is never going to reign on earth, He reigns over the earth now in the heavens (Revelation 20.4-5) and will rule over the new spiritual earth along with the Father in Rev 21
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the earthly kingdom was not postponed. You don't really think that God would be put off by a little thing like that, do you? A large minority accepted Him, and a vast quantity of Gentiles. His kingdom grows ever bigger and bigger. He has rejected the unbelievers of Israel, but He has promised to receive them back into the church if they repent.
Turning the other cheek was in response to an insult and applies as much today. It has NOTHING to do with self defence.
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I haven't read through all the posts but to answer the OP..
Jesus said right before all that that unless our righteousness exceed that of the Pharisees we would not enter in. Then goes on to say what He means.. You have heard..... But I tell you.....
This is exactly how the Holy Spirit guides us.. We exceed the law not follow it bc it saves no one
Jesus said right before all that that unless our righteousness exceed that of the Pharisees we would not enter in. Then goes on to say what He means.. You have heard..... But I tell you.....
This is exactly how the Holy Spirit guides us.. We exceed the law not follow it bc it saves no one