Minor/Major Addiction and wavering faith?

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oldethennew

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yes, He is the/our Qualifier and the One Who sets the RULES - we either choose to obey
or dis-obey, and then of course, we will live with the consequentses, for our Bible tells us
that we will reap what we sow...

HOS 10:12.
Sow to yourselves in Rghteousness, reap in Mercy; break up your fallow ground:
for it is time to seek The LORD, till He come and rain Righteousness upon you.

how beautiful is this message? so much beyond what the world teaches...
we thank You, Precious Saviour...
 
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FreeNChrist

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oldethennew said:
yes, He is the/our Qualifier and the One Who sets the RULES - we either choose to obey
or dis-obey, and then of course, we will live with the consequentses, for our Bible tells us
that we will reap what we sow...

HOS 10:12.
Sow to yourselves in Rghteousness, reap in Mercy; break up your fallow ground:
for it is time to seek The LORD, till He come and rain Righteousness upon you.

how beautiful is this message? so much beyond what the world teaches...
we thank You, Precious Saviour...
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Right. We either choose to obey and continue to live by faith in Christ, or we choose to disobey by trying to perfect ourselves through our own self effort.

Galatians 2:20 - "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me."
 
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Dai3234

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FreeNChrist said:
Right. We either choose to obey and continue to live by faith in Christ, or we choose to disobey by trying to perfect ourselves through our own self effort.

Galatians 2:20 - "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me."
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You statement is not entirely thought out. Following the law, by dictatorship is basically saying Christ is not good enough alone. Which is wrong. But following the COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST JESUS, EG, Do onto others as you would have done onto you, leads to the perfecting of your mind and actions, inevitably leading to creating a mirror in you of Christ. Through fully trusting in the Trinity, not holding back in any way from fear, embarrassment, persecution, ridicule or other. Speaking up for others as you would like others to speak up for you, giving freely to others as you would like others to give freely to you. This expands into thousands of changes in your WAYS. YOU CHANGE THROUGH FAITH IN, FOLLOWING THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST JESUS. I don't think you can trust Christ and not make any changes. Otherwise you are ignoring Christ and not accepting/becoming a mirror.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dai3234 said:
You statement is not entirely thought out. Following the law, by dictatorship is basically saying Christ is not good enough alone. Which is wrong. But following the COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST JESUS, EG, Do onto others as you would have done onto you, leads to the perfecting of your mind and actions, inevitably leading to creating a mirror in you of Christ. Through fully trusting in the Trinity, not holding back in any way from fear, embarrassment, persecution, ridicule or other. Speaking up for others as you would like others to speak up for you, giving freely to others as you would like others to give freely to you. This expands into thousands of changes in your WAYS. YOU CHANGE THROUGH FAITH IN, FOLLOWING THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST JESUS. I don't think you can trust Christ and not make any changes. Otherwise you are ignoring Christ and not accepting/becoming a mirror.
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Starting off by assumming my statement was not entirely thought out hardly puts you in a good light. The righteous are those who live by faith in Jesus Christ. Full stop.
 
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Dai3234

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FreeNChrist said:
Starting off by assumming my statement was not entirely thought out hardly puts you in a good light. The righteous are those who live by faith in Jesus Christ. Full stop.
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Your point implied that you do not change because you carry on as you always have but have faith so your fine? God works through us. So, we change, DO different habits, say different and more Christian words etc. So saying you just have faith and that's it, is a bit too limited in your explanation. As even in the new testament it says you are going to change?
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dai3234 said:
Your point implied that you do not change because you carry on as you always have but have faith so your fine? God works through us. So, we change, DO different habits, say different and more Christian words etc. So saying you just have faith and that's it, is a bit too limited in your explanation. As even in the new testament it says you are going to change?
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My point implied nothing, it was straight and to the point. :rolleyes:

And I might add supported by Scripture, as noted.
 
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Dai3234

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FreeNChrist said:
My point implied nothing, it was straight and to the point. :rolleyes:
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So you haven't changed anything? You just have faith? You don't pray, study the Bible or proclaim the gospel, glorify God etc?
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dai3234 said:
So you haven't changed anything? You just have faith? You don't pray, study the Bible or proclaim the gospel, glorify God etc?
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Is that really what you expect will result from living by faith in Christ? Really?
 
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Dai3234

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FreeNChrist said:
Is that really what you expect will result from living by faith in Christ? Really?
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Well PAUL said pray constantly, Christ said do onto others etc, Christ is the word of God and the son of man. Getting closer to Christ is studying the word of God and praying for strength, guidance, praying for others. God has no authority on earth as he gave authority of earth to man. God works through us. That's why jesus became man legally, and evil did not and has no authority.

If you don't pray or strengthen and further your relationship with God, you are not likely to be able to receive blessings often, as when you think bad, do bad or other, you block gods guidance to be blessed as your distracted by negativity. If you turn right annoyed, you fall over. Turn left, listening to God, you find new friends etc. The more you don't become like Christ, the more blessings are blocked. But not always for you, also others.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dai3234 said:
Well PAUL said pray constantly, Christ said do onto others etc, Christ is the word of God and the son of man. Getting closer to Christ is studying the word of God and praying for strength, guidance, praying for others. God has no authority on earth as he gave authority of earth to man. God works through us. That's why jesus became man legally, and evil did not and has no authority.

If you don't pray or strengthen and further your relationship with God, you are not likely to be able to receive blessings often, as when you think bad, do bad or other, you block gods guidance to be blessed as your distracted by negativity. If you turn right annoyed, you fall over. Turn left, listening to God, you find new friends etc. The more you don't become like Christ, the more blessings are blocked. But not always for you, also others.
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Ummmmmm, okay?
 
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Dai3234

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FreeNChrist said:
Ummmmmm, okay?
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Basically, god cannot be in the same sight as evil. God detests evil. If your doing evil, he gets blocked by your thoughts and actions. The apostles could not perform miracles for some time because they were being coached by Jesus in order to heal etc. Questions and fears, doubts etc caused an apostle who was walking on water, to sink. So you can see the "blocking" I'm mentioning. Basically strengthen your mind to have purely faith in god's actions. But that requires mental and physical actions and thoughts to be focused only on Christ. Which requires CHANGE.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dai3234 said:
Basically, god cannot be in the same sight as evil. God detests evil. If your doing evil, he gets blocked by your thoughts and actions. The apostles could not perform miracles for some time because they were being coached by Jesus in order to heal etc. Questions and fears, doubts etc caused an apostle who was walking on water, to sink. So you can see the "blocking" I'm mentioning. Basically strengthen your mind to have purely faith in god's actions. But that requires mental and physical actions and thoughts to be focused only on Christ. Which requires CHANGE.
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"For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus." Phil. 1:6
 
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Dai3234

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FreeNChrist said:


"For I am confident of this very thing, that He who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus." Phil. 1:6
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Exactly my point. We are perfected towards "good" continuously. But we often resist because of fear, nervous backing off etc.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Dai3234 said:
Exactly my point. We are perfected towards "good" continuously. But we often resist because of fear, nervous backing off etc.
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God will finish what He started. Not maybe.
 
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