"replacement theology" - what is it?

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eternally-gratefull

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zone said:
The Heresy Of Dispensationalism

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Dispensationalism

A Return to Biblical Theology

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Pseudo Christian Cult

“What is indisputably, absolutely, and uncompromisingly essential to the Christian religion is its doctrine of salvation… If Dispensationalism has actually departed from the only way of salvation which the Christian religion teaches, then we must say it has departed from Christianity.
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If Zone would actually STUDY dispensationalism as followed by MOST people who follow the doctrine, She would know this is not true.

Dispensationals do not preach a different gospel. They teach the same Gospel Zone is supposed to profess, which is salvation by grace through faith (maybe she has changed her stance on this?

And she would stop slandering people..

This is starting to get to the point of "hypergrace" argument, and maybe needs to be added to the warnings as posted by the mods as a topic which gets heated, is full of hate and slander, and need to be dealt with.

either way this is REALY GETTING OLD. as the slander against people who DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT SHE IS SAYING THEY DO is getting out of line.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
If Zone would actually STUDY dispensationalism as followed by MOST people who follow the doctrine, She would know this is not true....
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I'm dealing with the dispensationalism described in the article I posted.
if you believe something different that's up to you.
make a new thread
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
either way this is REALY GETTING OLD. as the slander against people who DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT SHE IS SAYING THEY DO is getting out of line.
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you spend all your time crying about ppl misrepresenting you.
that gets really old.
everybody sees it.
 
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I wonder how long until the Xtian Zionists paint John Kerry/Obama as the Antichrist making/breaking a peace treaty for 7.......LOL!
 
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trofimus said:
I think that for example anti-Russian or anti-muslim conspiracy theories are spread much more than this, in the US :)
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Not sure I agree on that. But either way,the things being said here are alarming to me as a born again believer.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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zone said:
I'm dealing with the dispensationalism described in the article I posted.
if you believe something different that's up to you.
make a new thread
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An article taken from an ANti-dispensational website.

been there done that with the hyper-grace topic. time for this crap to end.


news flash, NO ONE BELIEVES THE DISPENSATIONAL TEACHING YOUR ARTICLE ARGUES AGAINST.

so get over it. You have done this before Zone, It gets old!

 
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eternally-gratefull

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zone said:
you spend all your time crying about ppl misrepresenting you.
that gets really old.
everybody sees it.
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then stop it? and try to figure out what people believe instead of judging them?

and PS . it is not just me, IT IS EVERY DISPENSATIONAL PERSON OUT THERE.
 
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zone said:
I wonder how long until the Xtian Zionists paint John Kerry/Obama as the Antichrist making/breaking a peace treaty for 7.......LOL!
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bout as long as you judging and condemning a dispensational person? CLaiming they follow a different gospel. and are a zionist?

Your attacks are not christianlike zone..
 
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kaylagrl said:
Not sure I agree on that. But either way,the things being said here are alarming to me as a born again believer.
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the attacks are way out of hand.. it should alarm anyone who professes to be a child of God.
 
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Abraham had 2 blessings..

Physical Israel is all about the land. Spiritual Israel is about Spirit. Israel- the name that Jacob was given means he rules as God. Dominion on earth.

Its two different mindsets, two different understandings. Only Israel out of all nations inherited land from God. Chosen to bring the Messiah first as Saviour of the world. But, He comes the second time with the overcomers who will rule with Him for the salvation of Israel. The Millenial reign.

~Gen_28:4　 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.


Gal_3:14　 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Without the nation of Israel, no one but Israel and whoever would join with the nation and accept their God and laws would ever have access to heaven. Or Abrahams bosom..I don't think this is heaven. And I don't know if faithful Jews go there yet.

 
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Actually, one thing I said isn't quite the whole picture. God gave land to other nations but it was told to Israel by Him.
 
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stonesoffire said:
Actually, one thing I said isn't quite the whole picture. God gave land to other nations but it was told to Israel by Him.
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the whole issue comes when you try to make this "land" covenant, and say it now belongs to the church.. That God is done with Israel. his promise to her (which NEVER promised her eternal life to begin with) now belongs to the church..

Which should scare everyone, Because if God is not obligated to keep his UNCONDITIONAL promise to Israel concerning non salvic issues, .. what would make us think he would keep his UNCONDITIONAL promise to the church concerning salvic issues?
 
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Awakened said:
That doesn't sound like a good thing. Lol
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It's not a good thing but when you make TRUE statemensts like you made - the flesh children are not the true Israel then some on this thread will label you as antisemetic. I wasn't in any way calling you an anitsemite. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
the whole issue comes when you try to make this "land" covenant, and say it now belongs to the church.. That God is done with Israel. his promise to her (which NEVER promised her eternal life to begin with) now belongs to the church..

Which should scare everyone, Because if God is not obligated to keep his UNCONDITIONAL promise to Israel concerning non salvic issues, .. what would make us think he would keep his UNCONDITIONAL promise to the church concerning salvic issues?
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Where is the UNCONDITIONAL promise to Israel found in the bible?
 
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Physical Israel is all about the land. Spiritual Israel is about Spirit. Israel- the name that Jacob was given means he rules as God. Dominion on earth.

Jacob the deceiver;

Strongs lexicon 03290 Ya`aqob {yah-ak-obe'}rom 06117;; n pr m AV - Jacob 349; 349Jacob = "heel holder" or "supplanter" 1) son of Isaac, grandson of Abraham, and father of the 12 patriarchs of the tribes of Israel

God is still not a man as us.He is Spirit without form(flesh)

Heaven and earth will pass away on the last day .There will be no literal body as the Son of man reigning on the earth .the one time demonstration of Christ pouring out his spirt as the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world is over. The kingdom of God is not of this world ,never was, never will be.When he does come on the last day all will receive their new incorruptible bodies which will be neither Jew nor Greek male or female. What we are is not what we will be.

Again in God is not a man as us .We walk by faith not by sight. The kingdom of God comes without observation.And Christ the Holy Spirit of God said of his own flesh it could never profit as a spiritul work

2Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
How much more?
 
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KJV1611 said:
Where is the UNCONDITIONAL promise to Israel found in the bible?
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gen 12/15 and 17,

the parts which do not adress salvaion of anyone.

God said, I give you....forever. thats unconditional and permanent
 
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KJV1611 said:
Be more specific, which verses.
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been there done that, same ole argument,

anyone else wants to know ask, i am sick of repeating the same thing over to the same people, then they act all innocent llike i never told them before
 
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Does anybody else know where these unconditional promises are found? I'm not being facetious, I seriously don't know what EG is talking about.
 
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stonesoffire said:
Actually, one thing I said isn't quite the whole picture. God gave land to other nations but it was told to Israel by Him.
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Yes the temporal land not the eternal married land the new heavenly Jerusalem not seen.The walk by faith principle

2Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

1Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
 
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